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nacmat
on 2002-06-26 17:38 [#00285816]
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brazil and germany are the two teams that have played more matches in the history of world cups... but they had never met in a world cup... this is the first brazil -germany ever in history... huge match indeed.
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-06-26 18:41 [#00285890]
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Great, I didn't know that.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-06-26 18:44 [#00285895]
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do u mean they never met in the world cup final game? or they have't met at all?
btw, ronaldo really scored a superb goal
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nacmat
on 2002-06-26 18:49 [#00285902]
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they have never played against in a world cup match ... neither the final, semifinal, 1/4, 1/8 or the first mini-league
there has never been a germany - brazil in a world cup.
they have played in other occasions, but never world cup
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nacmat
on 2002-06-26 18:51 [#00285907]
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5-5-1963 Hamburgo Alemania 1 – Brasil 2
6-6-1965 RÃo Janeiro Brasil 2 – Alemania 0
16-6-1968 Stuttgart Alemania 2 – Brasil 1
14-12-1968 RÃo Janeiro Brasil 2 – Alemania 2
16-6-1973 BerlÃn Alemania 0 – Brasil 1
12-6-1977 RÃo Janeiro Brasil 1 – Alemania 1
5-4-1978 Hamburgo Alemania 0 – Brasil 1
7-1-1981 Montevideo Brasil 4 – Alemania 1
19-5-1981 Stuttgart Alemania 1 – Brasil 2
21-3-1982 RÃo Janeiro Brasil 1 – Alemania 0
12-3-1986 Francfort Alemania 2 – Brasil 0
12-12-1987 Brasilia Brasil 1 – Alemania 1
16-12-1982 Porto Alegre Brasil 3 – Alemania 1
10-6-1993 Washington Alemania 3 – Brasil 3
17-11-1993 Colonia Alemania 2 – Brasil 1
25-3-1998 Stuttgart Alemania 1 – Brasil 2
24-7-1999 Guadalajara Brasil 4 – Alemania 0
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nacmat
on 2002-06-26 18:53 [#00285913]
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but all this times werent in a world cup.
besides each team has played so far 6 finals of the world cup, so considering they have never met, this means that... in 12 of the 16 world cups so far one of them was in the final... this is gonna be a great match... a great end for a strange world cup.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-06-26 19:27 [#00285950]
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last two matches they played brazil won, and i think they have pretty big chance of winning again
tho anything could happen
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nacmat
on 2002-06-27 00:14 [#00286255]
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I think brazil can do it... germany could too, but there is a lot of difference player by player
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-06-27 00:18 [#00286263]
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ballack not beeing able to play, is quite a problem for germany
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nacmat
on 2002-06-27 00:24 [#00286271]
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well germany´s way of playing is very simple...they just try to get some corners or free kicks, so they can go and score with the head... they can do it without ballack (though I think they will miss him)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-06-27 00:26 [#00286275]
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simple but effective by the looks of it
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nacmat
on 2002-06-27 00:28 [#00286277]
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always effective... ask cruiff ... he and his clockwork orange palyed the best football in 74...but who won??
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-06-27 00:30 [#00286281]
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germany i guess? hehe
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nacmat
on 2002-06-27 00:41 [#00286299]
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you got it... no matter who plays better...germans win most of the times... they have played 6 finals so far (as many as brazil) but they lost one more (against england in england 66, against argentina in mexico 86 and against italy in spain 82)
the thing is that they are highly competitive
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nacmat
on 2002-06-27 09:58 [#00286728]
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27 June 2002, 13:12 Seoul - Tokyo Nominees for adidas Golden Ball announced by FIFAworldcup.com YOKOHAMA – Today FIFA and adidas announced the nominees for the adidas Golden Ball trophy in Yokohama. In addition, the new adidas Golden Ball trophy was unveiled during the event.
The adidas Golden Ball trophy for the FIFA World Cupâ„¢ is an official FIFA trophy that is awarded to the Most Valuable Player of the FIFA World Cup.
Representatives of the media elect the winners of the adidas Golden, Silver and Bronze Ball. The 10 nominees have been be selected by the Technical Study Group of FIFA. Out of these 10 nominees the media will then select the winners.
The new trophy will carry the names of former winners and the names of future winners will be added to the trophy over the years. The trophy will remain on permanent display at FIFA House in Zurich Switzerland.
Here are the ten nominees:
M. Ballack (GER) Roberto Carlos (BRA) el Hadji Diouf (SEN) Fernando Hierro (ESP) Hong Myung Bo (KOR) Oliver Kahn (GER) Rivaldo (BRA) Ronaldo (BRA) Ronaldinho (BRA) Hasan Sas (TUR)
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nacmat
on 2002-06-27 09:59 [#00286729]
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I am glad for fernando hierro, but why? I mean, raul was much more important...or even puyol... fernando didnt do bad but neither great...
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-06-27 10:48 [#00286803]
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I agree with... I don't understand... maybe it's like a present for his long football career.
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-06-27 10:50 [#00286806]
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wheres Rio Ferdinand ?
Rivaldo has been a total shit with all his cheating, FIFA are a load of ponces as usual
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-06-27 10:58 [#00286812]
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Who are the strong / weak links in Brazil v Germany ?
Germany>Strengths>
Kahn (9) awesome presence Metzelder (8) New to me, but very impressive Schneider (8) very effective and assured Hamann (8) excellent midfield anchor ((Ballack (9) suspended-scores key goals))
Weaknesses> Neuville (6) very average, low goals ratio Klose (6) only seems agressive in the air Jancker (5) desperately poor
BRAZIL>Strengths> Cafu (8) Amazing workrate for a 32 year old Carlos (9) solid in all areas of the pitch Ronaldo (9) back near his very best..lethal Ronaldinho (9) amazing bag of tricks Rivaldo (8) cultured, but has revealed a nasty side to his game
WEAKNESSES> I think none, their defeding is better than people have said.
So overall I like Brazil more, thay have more great goalscorers and I think they can do it !
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nacmat
on 2002-06-27 11:22 [#00286836]
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brazil in 1970 or 1982 had the best players (as now) but they also were the best team, they had their own style... brazil lacks of style now... they are lethal whan attacking, and it is true they defend quite good... but they dont work as a team... it looks that each player wants to finish the game himself... few of them have a real collective vison of football... one clear example is rivaldo...there are so many times he could pass, but he just ends by himself... I like ronaldo, cos he is very powerfull but he also has a good sense of team... if more players in brazil had this view brazil would be just one of the best teams in history...but it isnt
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artemis
from Ghent (Belgium) on 2002-06-27 17:28 [#00287122]
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Will this topic reach over 2000 replies?
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far-east monkey
from psychiatry hospital in osaka on 2002-06-27 17:36 [#00287128]
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Have been there topic reached over 2000 until now????
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artemis
from Ghent (Belgium) on 2002-06-27 17:38 [#00287133]
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I think Nacmat has broken a record!
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far-east monkey
from psychiatry hospital in osaka on 2002-06-27 17:45 [#00287140]
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well. thank you for good match japan vs belgium. wilmotts was great player.i think while japan played belgium, i was afraid his powerful skii.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-06-27 19:54 [#00287388]
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hierro is very fair player imo i don't see anything wrong with him beeing nominated
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-06-27 20:03 [#00287415]
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when is the World Cup final? I haven't watched Brazil play all tournament, and want to see this last game...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-06-27 20:04 [#00287419]
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this sunday at 1.30 pm on european time, i think
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-06-27 20:06 [#00287427]
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ok cool... I'm definitely watching it!!
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nacmat
on 2002-06-27 20:11 [#00287438]
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it will be at 1:00pm here in spain.
12:00 in england
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nacmat
on 2002-06-27 20:18 [#00287458]
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I think after all this has been a good world cup...with lots of surprises...and that is always nice
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-06-28 08:09 [#00288094]
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Honestly, I didn't like referee surprised very much. I haven't seen great teams play very well this year. Probably I liked only Senegal and Brasil.
It was a poor World Cup edition, imo.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-06-28 08:48 [#00288112]
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i think we all expected better football from the big teams hehe personaly i was totaly dissapointed with argentina
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nacmat
on 2002-06-28 12:16 [#00288222]
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this is not new.. i mean... what world cup or eurocup did have good football in the last times?
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-06-28 14:05 [#00288353]
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do you remember the game of bet who I'm doing here in Italy? I spoke about this at starts of this topic.
Ok, now I'm second with two point of distance from the first and five up the third.
I need to guess last 2 results for win: What do you suggest to me? Which are your advices?
Write here your forecasts:
TURKEY-KOREA=
GERMANY-BRASIL=
Thanks.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-06-28 14:13 [#00288361]
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TURKEY-KOREA=2-1
GERMANY-BRASIL= 1-2
there but i recommend u wait for other opinions im wrong often hehe
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-06-28 15:14 [#00288434]
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Thanks ;)
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-06-28 15:15 [#00288436]
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...but did you see the referees of turkey-korea? i think could win korea, belive me.
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-06-28 15:33 [#00288456]
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**woofer**> most common results in this world cup>
after 90 minutes> 1-1= 12 (2 of which were 2-1 after Golden goal) 1-0 win for favourite = 9 2-0 win for favourite = 7 0-1 win for underdog = 6 2-1 win for favourite = 5 (7 including Golden gol)
If you base it on score @ 90 minutes go for>
Korea 1-1 Turkey Brazil 1-1 Germany
If it is based on the FINAL score go for>
Korea 1-0 Turkey Brazil 1-0 Germany
But its best to trust yourself, as U are so good at predictions !!
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nacmat
on 2002-06-28 15:43 [#00288464]
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korea - turkey 2-1
brazil - germany 3-2
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-06-28 15:51 [#00288466]
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Thanks for your statistics.
Last time I guess KOREA-GERMANY=0-1 and BRASIL-TURKEY=1-0
...i think i'll go with:
Korea-Turkey=1-0 and Brasil-Germany=1-0
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-06-28 17:08 [#00288538]
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Here below my fav player... take a look.
Del Piero
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neurone
from orleans (France) on 2002-06-28 17:30 [#00288550]
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err. the shittiest topic is the most popular.. as in the mainstream...
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nacmat
on 2002-06-28 18:24 [#00288581]
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neurone said:
"the shittiest topic"
why did you come to that conclusion? and why is a thread popular by the number the posts in it? maybe, hundreds of posts in this thread were made by people like you, saying this was the shittiest topic... so it was you who really made it this large.
because this thread indeed is large, but popular? just 4 or 5 members post regularly here, so it is not really a popular topic.
besides... who are you to determine that this is the shittiest topic?
maybe the fact of you being french could explain it.
dont post here if you dont like it...its easy
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-06-28 18:29 [#00288583]
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nacmat : "maybe the fact of you being french could explain it." ? correct. dix points. ;-P
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nacmat
on 2002-06-28 18:41 [#00288588]
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yes I should have though of it before writting the whole response
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neurone
from orleans (France) on 2002-06-28 18:43 [#00288593]
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all right I should not say this is shit topic because I didn't read more than 3 lines in it.
it's just that I 'm not fond with (tv) footbal. and yes nobody cares.. so, excuse me.
by the way, smokehammer, I enjoy that the french team get kicked out of the championship, because here in france everybody get crazy with them since they win the last one,, they put Zidane & Dessailly 4m x 6m posters all over the cities, and you see shitload of commercials spot with french players, and then you see them playing and you say 'well, they should train instead of make all that tv shit)
I'm not proud of the french team, you now... it's crap.
I admit I had fun watchin senegal or korea playing.
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neurone
from orleans (France) on 2002-06-28 18:46 [#00288596]
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I may have said that because today nobody cares of my topics !
I'm jaleous, at least !
damnit.
;)
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nacmat
on 2002-06-28 18:47 [#00288599]
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I understand that if you dont like football...or football on tv you dont like this thread either...but as I said before, its better not to post here than to post to say its the shittiest...I am sure you know what I mean... anyway no problem man
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nacmat
on 2002-06-28 18:48 [#00288600]
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ok neurone I will search for your topics and post in them...hehehe
:-D
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-06-28 18:49 [#00288602]
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well said neurone French people have never had the love of football that the English, Spanish or Italians do
I think they became VERY arrogant after winning the world cup in '98, and now nobody seems to care once more. Why is French club football so poor ? Because there's not many supporters...
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