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offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-06-25 16:01 [#00284515]
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i don't think they played any better
but many teams that are playing good football went home
early
it has a lot to do with luck also



 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-06-25 16:13 [#00284528]
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yeah, luck to find capable and honest referee.



 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-06-25 16:16 [#00284530]
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that too
hehe
i don't know if you mentioned which is your fav club
im a big fan of inter btw


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-06-25 16:25 [#00284535]
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**********- Juventus -************
*** Italian champion 2001 / 2002 ***

These are the champions of season 2001/02

- Buffon
- Juliano
- Ferrara
- Tudor (Cro)
- Montero (Uru)
- Thuram (Fra)
- Zambrotta
- Davids (Hol)
- Nedved (Cec)
- Trezeguet (Fra)
- Del Piero

...then

Carini (Uru)
Salas (Cil)
Pessotto
Birindelli
Amorouso
Zalayeta (Uru)
C. Zenoni
Paramatti
Rampulla

Trainer: Mr. Marcello Lippi


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-25 16:27 [#00284536]
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hopefully we'll meet in the champions league! (i support
dutch champions ajax)


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-06-25 16:34 [#00284537]
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Cool Netlon, I hope too. Ajax is really a strong team and I
hope to meet them in the final matches of champion's league.


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-25 16:49 [#00284543]
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hmmm i'll be happy if ajax survive the first stage so
hopefully we'll be in the same league :)


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-06-25 16:53 [#00284546]
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Tell the name of best players of ajax.



 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-25 16:59 [#00284550]
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van der vaart - a hot new talent
chivu - basically the most important player, captain
machlas - supposed to be the lethal striker
mido - better than machlas, striker
o'brien - the american midfielder, becoming more important
every match
van der meyde - right winger, fast

the thing with the squad is that the important players are
very young and inexperienced. also players like ibrahimovic
from sweden are now on the transferlist after only 1
year...

it's going to be tough in europe


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-25 17:00 [#00284553]
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ok *giggles* i'm going to eat now :)

see ya


 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-25 17:24 [#00284568]
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barça:

kluivert
saviola
rivaldo
luis enrique
xavi
cocu
overmars
puyol
de boer
reiziger
enke

we want for this year:

kily gonzalez
mendieta

but look at real madrid:

raul
morientes
figo
zidane
solari
guti
roberto carlos
helguera
hierro
salgado
casillas


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-06-25 17:30 [#00284577]
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i wish real would get lucio and vieira
hehe


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-06-25 17:32 [#00284581]
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and ronaldo
ronaldinho perhaps


 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-25 17:33 [#00284584]
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imagine, being born in madrid but supporting barça... its
kind of hard after 9 champion leagues here in madrid... well
barça will never be as good as real madrid...but we ve
got:

1 champions league (3 times runners up)
4 european recups (cups champions cup)
3 uefa cups
16 spanish leagues
24 spanish cups
2 european supercups

many teams may have a better curriculum but this is good
too.

real madrid:

9 champions league
2 uefa cups
2 intercontinental cups
28 spanish leagues
17 spanish cups

and more I dont remember as they are not my team


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-06-25 17:33 [#00284585]
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For next season Juve is interest to:

-Nesta
-Cannavaro
-Rio Ferdinand
-Klose
-Veron
-Vieira



 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-06-25 17:35 [#00284589]
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vieira would come in handy
why nesta and cannavaro-u have montero and tudor


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-06-25 17:44 [#00284597]
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Here below the Juventus palmares:

------------------In Italy---------------------
ITALIAN CHAMPIONSHIPS: *** 26 ***
1905 1925/26 1930/31 1931/32 1932/33
1933/34 1934/35 1949/50 1951/52 1957/58
1959/60 1960/61 1966/67 1971/72 1972/73
1974/75 1976/77 1977/78 1980/81 1981/82
1983/84 1985/86 1994/95 1996/97 1997/98
2001/02

Italy cup: *** 9 ***
1937/38 - 1941/42 - 1958/59 - 1959/60 - 1964/65 - 1978/79 -
1982/83 - 1989/90 - 1994/95

Italian's Super Cup: *** 2 ***
1995 - 1997

-----------------In Europe-------------------
Cups Champions Cup: *** 1 ***
1983/84

Champion's Cup: *** 2 ***
1984/85 - 1995/96

European Supercup: *** 2 ***
1985 - 1996

UEFA Cup: *** 3 ***
1976/77 - 1989/90 - 1992/93

---------------In the
World------------------Intercontinental Cup: *** 2 ***
1985 - 1996





 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-06-25 17:48 [#00284600]
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Juve want to buy Nesta or Cannnavaro or Rio Ferdinand,
obviously only one between these three defensive players.
Nesta is probably the best defensive player in the world but
he's very expensive.

Probably we'll sell Thuram :( so we'll need another great
defensor.

In the last period Tudor didn't play as defensor but as
midfield and he was very good too.



 

offline smokehammer from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-06-25 17:51 [#00284603]
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Hmmm.. this isn't really a world cup thread anymore is it ?

never mind, I'm tempted to forget it as well, now that a
hugely un-talented and tedious German side, benefitting from
a favourable draw and good fortune are into the final. once
again. zzzz


 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-25 17:53 [#00284607]
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barça is out of money so there will pass a few years before
we win something again


 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-25 17:54 [#00284609]
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germany played better than korea


 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-25 17:56 [#00284613]
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brazil - turkey

which is your choice?


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-06-25 18:07 [#00284623]
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brazil-no doubt


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-06-25 18:10 [#00284626]
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Brasil



 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-25 18:12 [#00284629]
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which is your perfect eleven of the world cup???


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-06-25 18:15 [#00284633]
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most of them is out allready
hehe


 

offline smokehammer from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-06-25 18:17 [#00284635]
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I hope Germany get thrashed 5-1 again to prove (like England
proved to them) that they can be beaten ... convincingly.

Korea's weaknesses were obvious all along, their luck ran
out today. Germany have the BIGGEST players, the TALLEST
players, the most ORGANISED players in the world. But the
BEST players ? the most exciting ? most talented ?

OK, I just dislike German football. Don't argue with me. I'm
bitter 'cos England beat them 5-1 and they are in the final
AGAIN .. remeber 1990 and 1996 ? It HURTS English people to
see them there again, strutting around and acting generally
superior

I know its casual racism on my part and I'm not proud of it,
but its the way I am. Maybe You don't all understand. Thats
OK .I just won a bet Germany would reach the final, so I'm
not too unhappy.


 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-25 18:20 [#00284641]
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if spain had passed to the semifinals other thing would have
happened


 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-25 18:27 [#00284647]
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The suspension of German playmaker Michael Ballack for
picking up his second yellow card of the World Cup's
knockout stages means that a key player will be barred from
the final for the fourth tournament in a row.

Central defender Laurent Blanc missed France's 3-0 win over
Brazil in the 1998 final after being sent off against
Croatia in the semi-final.

In 1994, Italian defender Alessandro Costacurta was
suspended for a second yellow card picked up in the
semi-final against Bulgaria. Italy lost on penalties in the
final against Brazil after a 0-0 draw.

Four years earlier, Argentina had four players suspended for
the final with West Germany, including forward Claudio
Caniggia. Caniggia scored the equaliser in the 1-1
semi-final draw with Italy before getting a second yellow
card.

West Germany won the final 1-0 and two Argentina players
were sent off.



 

offline smokehammer from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-06-25 18:29 [#00284649]
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Kahn (Ger)

Ferdinand (eng)
Marques (mex)
Kim Tae Yung (SK)
Puyol (Spa)

Duff (Ire)
svensson (swe)
Bouba Diop (sen)
Basturk / Sas (Tur)

Ronaldinho (Bra)
Ronaldo (Bra)



 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-25 18:33 [#00284655]
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hey did you really like puyol that much??

I am happy for that


 

offline smokehammer from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-06-25 18:33 [#00284657]
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what do you think nacmat ?

I think there have been few great midfielders this year...
none in fact.

think about since 1986-1998

Maradona, Baggio, Gascoigne, Matthaeus, Gullit, Hagi,
Laudrup, Zidane....

none this year, not great performers IMO.


 

offline smokehammer from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-06-25 18:34 [#00284658]
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Putol has legs like tree-trunks, he is very tough. Man of
the match v. Korea I thought


 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-25 18:36 [#00284661]
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it is so true...there have been nice strikers and nice
defenders but very few midfielders...maybe ballack


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-06-25 18:38 [#00284663]
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Totally agree.



 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-06-25 18:39 [#00284666]
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torrado gerardo played prettey well in the midfield


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-06-25 18:40 [#00284668]
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nakata also


 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-25 18:49 [#00284675]
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I would say inamoto rather than nakata


 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-25 19:00 [#00284688]
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this is in spanish as I didnt find it in english:

Codesal: "Hubo presiones para designar al linier de Trinidad
y Tobago"
Se destapó el escándalo arbitral del España-Corea. Y se
hace desde dentro de las tripas de la propia FIFA. El
mexicano Edgardo Codesal, miembro de la Comisión de
arbitraje, reveló este lunes el proceso de presiones que
desembocó en la designación del trinitario Michael
Ragoonath como asistente del partido. Codesal anunció su
dimisión como miembro de esa comisión y sigue así el
camino iniciado por Angel Villar.
El ex colegiado reveló en el diario mexicano ‘Récord’
que Emerson Mathurin, presidente de árbitros de la
Concacaf, fue quien propuso a Ragoonath. Codesal reconoce
que “presiones existen en todos lados. Mathurin ha tenido
problemas con todos. Habría que preguntarle al resto de
compañeros cómo observan su trabajo”.
Mathurin, de Santa Lucía, y residente en Canadá, es el
hombre de confianza de Jack Warner, presidente de la
Concacaf y compatriota... de Ragoonath. Warner apoyó a
Blatter en las recientes elecciones para la FIFA. Codesal
denuncia que “parte de la renovación a la que se debe
someter la Concacaf es que se encuentra el trinitario Jack
Warner, por eso se debe de cambiar”.
La desilusión de Codesal es rotunda en las palabras al
diario mexicano: “Hasta aquí llegué; no tengo ninguna
intención de seguir en el arbitraje. ¡Aquí se acaba!,
pondré mi renuncia irrevocable por todo lo que pasa. No es
justo continuar de esta manera”. Codesal describe cómo se
marchó Villar: “Lo vi de un modo tranquilo acercarse a
Blatter y decirle que su cargo está vacante. Ahora es mi
turno”.
El tridente Warner-Mathurin-Ragoonath protagonizó un
curioso episodio en octubre del 2001. Warner organizó en
Trinidad y Tobago un curso de cuatro días para árbitros y
asistentes. ¿Quíén fue el director del curso? Mathurin.
Más, ¿quién fue uno de los 32 colegiados presentes?
Ragoonath. El cuarto y célebre último día de curso se
dedicó al estudio de la ley del fuera de juego. La sede del
curso fue el centro Joao Ha


 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-26 00:14 [#00285035]
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As the more renowned teams have slumped, Tostao ascribes the
surprise success of several weaker teams partly to the
greater time they had together to train. "The best players
were playing until the last minute in club competitions," he
explains. Meanwhile, the tournament "is becoming
increasingly less important as the European championships
take up more space," he reckons.

Like others, he also laments a lack of variety in
footballing styles. "Football has been globalised. Everyone
plays the same way: Argentina, Brazil, the Europeans, the
Africans. There is not a great difference between teams,
everyone has been brought down to the same level.

“The World Cup is very short," he adds. "The teams that
have the best performance are not necessarily the best
teams. If it had been a longer tournament, France and
Argentina could have recovered … You have to be very
careful drawing definitive conclusions from these short
tournaments.”



 

offline Tasos from Athens (Greece) on 2002-06-26 01:03 [#00285088]
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A big BRAVO to Germany!!!!


 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-26 01:05 [#00285093]
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hey tasos where had you been?


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-06-26 07:30 [#00285367]
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I understand enough this article.

Anyway I think that Angel Villar is a great man, he gave a
great signal to FIFA with his own resignations.



 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-26 09:47 [#00285456]
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brazil - turkey

brazil will have to fight very hard to beat the turkish...
its not a coincidence that they are in semifinals... ok they
were lucky that argentina and france were out...but this is
the mirror of what is happening in europe, where they won
the uefa cup in 2000 and they got to 1/4 finals of champions
league in 2001 (I am talking about galatasaray)

their football is based on strenth at their stadiums (where
referees allow them more than I would like) but each time
they get more and more competitive.

the turkish team is made out of galatasaray and good players
playing in good european teams, such as "bastur" from
leverkusen, hakan sukur (though he is not very good now)
dabala (I think he is in milano)

this will not be an easy match for brazil


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-06-26 10:29 [#00285495]
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Sukur, Umit, Emre and Ochan plays in Italy.
Honestly I wouldn't Turkish players in my Juventus, thet
don't convince me.
Anyway Turkey is a good team in this world cup.



 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-26 10:31 [#00285496]
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turkish players seem to be half as good out of their
country... hakan sukur was really good...but he went to
italy and ...nothing



 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-26 12:28 [#00285583]
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well its football time now!!

I wisht I saw a great rivaldo and ronaldo


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-26 12:32 [#00285587]
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yeah i'm gonna go downstairs and watch. GO TURKS!!!!!!!!!!!

slaughter those damn brazilians!


 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2002-06-26 15:08 [#00285669]
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Nice match .. lots of squandered chances - would have been
nice if it was 2:1 --- thought those fighting turks
deserved a goal :) perhaps not a win though.

GERMANY BRAZIL - huge.


 

offline far-east monkey from psychiatry hospital in osaka on 2002-06-26 16:08 [#00285725]
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it is coming to final .
Brazil have depelping parsonal skill
on the other hand
Germany have difensive style.
Both team have different play style.
and Europe vs South america.
i can't wait


 


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