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godataloss
from Cleveland (United States) on 2005-04-01 16:45 [#01550191]
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You mistake my illustration of the consequences of his actions with a personal attack of his beliefs. I do not think that the pope is a fan of ass fucking and likes catholics in Africa to die of aids or recieve no aid from catholics in America. To return to the purpose of this thread, sometimes reality has to be represented by the grotesque in order for it to be noticed.
If that makes me a "fucking bastard" than so be it, but to infer that the pope is somehow "off limits" to the same kind of ridicule that Bush or Blair get on this board on a daily basis is ridiculous.
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-04-01 16:54 [#01550198]
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I never said he was off limits, but it is wrong to misrepresent reality in order to get it noticed. because that is basically what sensationalist media does. It is flat out wrong to falsify information in order to attain more attention from people, that is what the US and British government did as a means to justify the attack on Iraq. The examples of child abuse cases should be appauling enough for people to sit up and take notice without inferring that the Pope is condoning the behaviour in some way.
You have on a number of occassions challenged me to give examples of the humanitarian work he has undertaken. Do you really need me to point these out? He has managed to bring people together, he has embraced all faiths like no other and within religious circles he is respected by the top members of all faiths, whether christian, jewish, muslim or whatever.
I just think he was a good man who deserves a little more respect than was being shown. Bush however is a bad man (but I won't get into that one :P)
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-01 16:57 [#01550202]
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yeah, i think there is a difference between political and religious leaders.
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godataloss
from Cleveland (United States) on 2005-04-01 17:08 [#01550210]
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Just because I present my 'world view' in a sensationalistic way does not make it untrue. If I have one thing in common with the pope, its that we both hold dearly to that which we BELIEVE.
The consequence of that for me is that you call me an ignorant American. The consequence of that for The Pontif is that he is lionized for all the 'good' he did. For you to think that you are somehow above this vice is hypocrisy.
Like Jesus, he was just a man that did the best he could (ok, we have that in common too), but there is a wide world out there and sometimes you can't accept matters on faith alone.
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godataloss
from Cleveland (United States) on 2005-04-01 17:10 [#01550214]
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In the history of the world wealth, religion and politics are inseparable.
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-04-01 17:13 [#01550216]
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hehe I probably only agreed with about 40% of what I typed there, and I know for a fact I am far from perfect, but if I state something that is factually incorrect it is with the best of intentions in that whatever I say is what I understand it to be, if I am proven wrong then I am more than willing to accept it because I am as stupid as the next man. I just wanted to see what your real views were, I only called you ignorant because you were standing behind fake quotes.
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godataloss
from Cleveland (United States) on 2005-04-01 17:16 [#01550219]
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You saw it on the internets. It HAS to be true.
Forgive me for expanding your world view.
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-04-01 17:17 [#01550222]
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You are still a typical american...hahaha
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godataloss
from Cleveland (United States) on 2005-04-01 17:18 [#01550224]
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And you are a witless limey fuck.
You make me regret we ever kept the Germans from stealing your lunch money.
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-04-01 17:21 [#01550229]
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Yeah and there wouldn't be an America if it wasn't for France...let's not forget that.
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godataloss
from Cleveland (United States) on 2005-04-01 17:25 [#01550234]
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Huh?
I googled {great french war hereos and returned nothing}
You're world view is more out of whak than I thought...
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-04-01 17:27 [#01550236]
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See the difference between me and you is that I rely on knowledge where as you rely on reactionary google searches.
Maybe if you looked up a little history regarding the events leading up to and surrounding the declaration of independence you would understand what I mean.
Just because you don't know something, or can't find something on google, doesn't mean the other person is wrong you know.
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godataloss
from Cleveland (United States) on 2005-04-01 17:31 [#01550238]
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Yes you have proven yourself a fountain of knowledge
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-04-01 17:33 [#01550239]
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Yes, well done, excellent retort.
*shakes head*
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xceque
on 2005-04-01 18:03 [#01550241]
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*pops head round corner of thread*
*looks*
*doesn't type planned witty, cutting and incisive response that will solve all problems and differences*
*leaves*
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-04-01 18:27 [#01550258]
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As a catholic I'll be fucked if i'm reading all this.
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-04-01 18:29 [#01550261]
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haha, I couldn't read it all again.
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woj
on 2005-04-01 18:36 [#01550283]
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agree, debile!
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2005-04-01 19:01 [#01550328]
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i kind of hate you all
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-04-01 20:27 [#01550395]
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i just read it all. it's 4am and i just read it all.
what a waste of time.
godataloss, i was with you until you brought up the WE CAME IN AND SAVED THE DAY IN WW2 FOR YOU USELESS BASTARDS bit yank shits always drag up, which is complete nonsense.
you were going well up until then (although started off very shakily). congrats - you have proven yourself to be, as echidniarb said, nothing more than a dumb yankshit.
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-01 20:37 [#01550399]
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lol
'what a waste of time' :)
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godataloss
from Cleveland (United States) on 2005-04-01 21:06 [#01550410]
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you're right- I never should of stooped to his level (of personal insult) however I can only take so much empty finger pointing before i revert to the same.
The moment you call me a 'pig ignorant american' I loose all sense of propriety and start thinking about the queen's mustache...
and we all know how hypnotizing that can be
my points still stand unrefuted.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-04-01 21:19 [#01550414]
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Ladies and gentlemen,
HITLER
Thank you and good night!
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godataloss
from Cleveland (United States) on 2005-04-01 21:44 [#01550417]
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Well that's just in fine tase!
I refuse to reute that.
If you tossers care to argue about anything else, I'll go consult the magna carta
Hitler, REALLY!
What if I was black?
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ambsace
from canaDUH. on 2005-04-01 21:56 [#01550419]
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you'd be in some trouble, there. that's fer damn sure.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2005-04-02 03:37 [#01550510]
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THIS CANNOT STOP HERE, LETS GO FURTHER!
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-04-02 04:10 [#01550518]
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how old are you earthleakage ? twelve ?
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-04-02 05:54 [#01550579]
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good put down. you've scarred me for life.
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2005-04-02 06:19 [#01550590]
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I come here cause it makes me feel normal
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big
from lsg on 2005-04-02 06:21 [#01550594]
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it's just strange situations we come to terms with through humor
imo the vatican has the blood of many africans on their hands.
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-04-02 06:26 [#01550599]
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This thread is shit.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2005-04-02 06:26 [#01550600]
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gahhh! i hate threads like these!
Religion - fabricated fairytales make to describe what science couldnt at the time,
passed on through years of conformed pre conditioned brainwash ornate with fraudulent holidays and close minded thoughts and etc, etc, etc
The pope stands for this, and therefore he should have been killed when he was shot, I hope to see him trip and fall down some steps on television.
ONE LESS BRAINDEAD WASTE OF GREY MATTER. FUCK HIM.
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big
from lsg on 2005-04-02 06:28 [#01550605]
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i thought this thread was alright, i didnt read it all though
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-04-02 06:32 [#01550612]
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omfg... and you think the pope is the lord sith of christianity right ?
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2005-04-02 06:34 [#01550614]
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No, if I thought that, then killing him would have this magical effect where all other christians in the world would drop dead.
He's just a faith boosting commercial.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-04-02 06:38 [#01550618]
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-04-02 06:39 [#01550619]
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I can't really be arsed replying but I will anyway. What a very simplistic view of religion you have. It's pretty funny the way you seem to define religion purely through christianity. Christianity isn't even evil. You are just stupid actually.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2005-04-02 06:42 [#01550623]
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sorry but I'm right and you're wrong. christianity is not entirely evil, sure millions of families lead wonderful happy lives with excellent morales, but there are too many holes in their perception of truth, the biggest hole being that its all a lie.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-04-02 06:43 [#01550625]
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are you gay?
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-04-02 06:43 [#01550626]
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harsh words
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2005-04-02 06:45 [#01550629]
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how can we evolve as intelligent beings if we hold such retarded beliefs? what clings those of you to it, faith?
its simply an emotion. and depending on where you were born and how you were raised, we could all be discussing alah or some other fake god right now.
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-04-02 06:47 [#01550630]
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In your opinion. You suffer from the same problem a lot of people on the board suffer from, which is that your supposed wisdom is based on nothing more supposition and ignorance.
There are over 1 billion Catholics alone...if they were evil you would fucking know about it. As I said before, I'm not at all religious, however I choose not to fall back on childish statements regarding the validity of others beleifs.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-04-02 06:47 [#01550631]
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im kinda depressed know... i mean i never really believed into god, nor in the church. religion was never something important in my live. - but i don't spread wild theory's around me or laugh about others. i mean - what for ?
lack of majority everywhere... lucky for the pope he will soon be far from that shit
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2005-04-02 06:50 [#01550633]
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I didn't know it was childish to speak the truth. sorry
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-04-02 06:56 [#01550638]
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Hitler beleived he was speaking the truth. Does that make him right?
A pedophile who abuses a child because he says the child is a willing participant who enjoys it...are they right because they is what they beleive?
Racists firmly beleive that all black people are sub human scum, are they right simply because they beleive it?
You have an opinion, which you are more than entitled to, but to consider your own opinion as the only opinion that matters is just silly.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-04-02 06:58 [#01550640]
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that's good that you know the truth...
gwely mernans for president - he knows the truth ! fuck it.... i searched for it so long an you just know it.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2005-04-02 07:03 [#01550643]
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I have an evolved existantial verisimilitude, you have respect for other's beliefs. The statement you made was unintelligent and apolling. Hilter was scum, racists are scum, religion is scum, and they all share a similiar preset, childhood manipulation.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2005-04-02 07:05 [#01550645]
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talking to you about this subject is a waste of my time and energy. maybe in another thread we can be friends and discuss something about music or whatnot but religion flares me up because I hate it. goodbye.
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-04-02 07:08 [#01550650]
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haha, you can't even see the flaws in your own logic?
You are saying you never underwent any sort of environmental conditioning as a child? Yeah right.
You do that verisimilitude is a purely superficial term don't you? And I would clerly argue against the validity of your claim. Only by understnding others can you understand the real truth.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2005-04-02 07:09 [#01550653]
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I broke free from the conditioning because I'm whats known as an indigo child, or neo-kid.
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