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a little while ago a Dutch magazine ran a photospread with boys and girls from around 10 years, who do not want to be the sex they are. and the great thing about the pictures was that they looked like th sex they wanted to be. incredible photo's. |
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Research has shown that apart from hormone levels that can be pharmaceutically dealt with gender mendality has a mostly memetic basis. Ofcourse we have knowledge of a tiny part of the human brain and hormonal system and research has been wrong many times throughout the years. |
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Very interesting indeed. Hey! Check it out, I'm a bitch now. |
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And if you hadn't covered them in stains and got them stuck together you could have scanned and posted them. |
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Oh there you are. So bitches do what when you communicate? Are you using your vocal chords or trying to do sign language while jacking off. |
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oh dear ha ha it would seem you have made the mistake of taking Lee seriously! Lee is lovely, really. |
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no but, that would, depending on what you changed, make a different sperm join the egg. Also that complex "crossing over" genetic stuff would chaotically go about in a different way, but half of the chromosomes would be different than before anyway because of the sperm... so maybe you'd have black instead of blonde hair or some shit.. but would you even feel like you were you in this case.. or would someone else be you..? It would be the same egg in just one day, so the initial thing that "you" were is still you.. ah forget it, I don't know enough about the process of growth. But say your parents aborted you, you'd still be that egg, maybe a bit developed, but end up in a trash can or toilet or whatever they do with aborted fetuses with no consciousness. but that would be you, you just wouldn't develope further. well things grow by eating, and cells dividing (I'm not sure how cells divide really, I know the dna splits and collects the new A's G's C's and T's from somewhere).. but that's just the dna, cells somehow add bulk to themselves to replicate themselves, by "eating" maybe. |
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Written word is also a method of communication...do you not realise this? I don't go looking for enemies...they come looking for me. |
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Enemies? No no no....I just want your cock. o_0 Seriously, no drama. Just fuckin' around. |
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I think we all made that mistake. |
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no we didn't. |
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are you serious. The baby would have no consent... |
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On this board there are two people I don't like. a) You b) ChildrenTalking Other than that I like pretty much everyone...even messed up little Monoid. |
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Read on identical twins.... I havent |
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Trust me my comment has extra extra hidden meaning. |
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yes we did |
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this whole discussion does center around what you perceive as "you". what is it that makes a person a person? etc. |
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oh no we didn't!! |
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oh please.. give it a rest with all the hidden meanings etc. |
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There are certain medical conditions that make that action imperative. |
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Arguably, changing pre-pubescent kids gender through hormones/sex change ops would be far more effective (and a more convincing result) than when it is done to a fully grown adult. However! There are a myriad of reasons why that should never be allowed: Sick parents putting pressure on a kid (say they always wanted a little girl...), kids may just be confused (ie a phase they're going through), they may just be gay and may mistake this for wanting to be a member of the opposite sex, children that young can't give sexual consent- arguably having a sex change is even more serious (they aren't exactly reversible). there are plenty of cases of adults being given a sex change too quickly and then self harming/suiciding. |
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The very fact that at least one person disagrees with the original statement negates it. It is pointless even trying to argue. You can't argue with logic. |
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I'll leave it for now but take it as advice. |
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I know a girl that actually got pregnant from anal rape because the guy tore a hole through her colon just under her cervix. And strangely enough, she also got Gonorhhea. I'm mentioning this because I dont understand how even after things like this happen to people, Most Pro-Life types (the ones who operate from an archaic religious perspective) choose to ignore the fact that not everyone shares their beliefs, and that things like this happen. I dont want to start an argument over Abortion, but I do think that denying a womans right to choose is a pretty shallow thing to do. Theres even a shallow stupid part of me that I'm working on who wants to run over the MEN who are against abortion. After a slight pregnancy scare with a guy that I had broken up with who thought I was pregnant (never was) accused me of aborting "HIS" child. He had a mindset that women were only the receptacle to the products of men. He had at least 8 of his friends jump me when I was delivering pizza's last year. And I've never even BEEN pregnant. I need to keep an open mind about this, contrary to past experiences, so what are you guy's thoughts on abortion, and other sorts of contraceptives. What do you think should happen in the future? |
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Since the western society is so fluffy and sweet I bet they will make laws for that. I know there are psychiatrists specialising in that department. You have to go through psychiatric tests to have a sex change. |
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Thats terrible. That piece of shit should pay! |
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There's really nothing I can do about it. The only thing on me that really got hurt was my lower leg and ankle. I broke it and walked on the fucker for 6 months without going to the hospital. I have to wear a gel cast at night, and thats it. It could have been alot worse, and I aint complaining. So much more could have gone down. |
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let's stop all the fussing and a fueding! i love you cletus! i love you paa! |
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I love you too, Ezekial. |
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You have to accept the idea that men have some degree of "ownership" over (even unborn) children... now, whether that is half or less than half is another matter, but if the child is solely the woman's, men should not have to pay child support. |
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The fact is that abortions can lead to horrible hormonal disturbances for the woman. They have also been incriminated for cancer in the uterus (I think). |
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Are you a lawyer or something? Or studying to become one? In my opinion, homosexuality is but one shadow of the underlying sickness in modern humans. Sickness implies unhealthy and that's what I mean I suppose. I'm not implying that I hate homosexuals, just that the behavior seems evolutionarily or psychologically fucked. Some frogs apparently change sex, but that's ingrained in their evolutionary developement. By the way frogs and other amphibians are declining in modern times, but one more shadow of the underlying sickness in modern humans (doubtless they are causing it). But homosexuality is in no way part of human evolutionary developement. If you go way way back, females and males at one point branched off from eachother and began dancing about in some crazy ass arms races resulting in selected forms which eventually led to present, .. in other words, females and males have a common origin (most likely). But after all that evolution, nothing that wasn't ill would select for same sexes to be attracted toward eachother. It would be a waste of time obviously as no reproduction would result. I'm nonsexual myself, or asexual if you include masterbation. That doesn't result in reproduction either and indeed it is ill. |
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Oh of course!! thats why I dont want to start thinking otherwise out of bitterness. But I do think that MOST of the 'Ownership' goes to the female, because once the activities of the body begin, Its half her nutrients, 30% more of her own body weight added on, and 9 months ending in excriciating pain. Thats gotta count for something. But according to recent studies, men might be able to give birth soon by utilizing abdominal cysts!!!! Hell, that would shut ME up for sure! Go man babies! |
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I'm sorry I suppose that was an innapropriate comment. I feel for you but in real terms I just can't possibly relate. For once I'm truly speechless. |
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Homosexuality is in a big part memetic I've heard. No solid data exists to my knowledge (which is extremely limited). |
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A lawyer? Well....I completly disagree with you and your views on evolution, but none the less it is an interesting opinion I guess, perhaps even a theory. You DO realize that we arent the only species that harbors homosexuality and sex for pleasure as a part of our instincts right? just because you believe homosexuality isnt a thing of the past, doesnt mean that it wasnt a part of our evolution, and not just some psycosis. |
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whoa. where did this all come from all of a sudden? everything we do is part of human evolution. and so what if it wasn't part of "human evolution"? I don't know about you, but I don't live my life along the lines that it should be "good" for human evolution. |
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It wasnt innapropriate at all. Dun worry. I was just answering you honestly. |
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It would be naive to examine cultural and biological evolution apart from each other. |
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Is that directed at me? If so, I do study law as part of my degree and I've always had a keen interest in it. A large number of my friends/associates are involved in law one way or another, so it always comes up in discussion amongst my circle of friends. I like the logical quality of it and draw parallels between it and computer programming. It's almost like social-programming (in a good way). |
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:-) |
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..which is exactly what w M w is doing. |
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but you all have to see that, in a strictly scientific sense, homosexuality IS a fluke of evolution, because as wmw pointed out, no reproduction can occur this way. Pretend for a minute that we don't live in this world of technology... there would be no way to artificially reproduce so all homosexuals would eventually die out... I don't have a problem with homosexuality, but it must therefore be, as I said, a fluke of evolution for that reason. |
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Individuals have little autonomy over things like abortion ... and pollution... society can suddenly say boom, it's now illegal to have abortions or something, and there goes your freedom on that. |
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That would be true if it wasn't for the fact you are completely wrong. |
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Memes reproduce themselves faster than bacteria. |
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"there would be no way to artificially reproduce so all homosexuals would eventually die out" If homosexuality is indeed largely genetic, it follows that it would have "died out" long ago as some temporary fluke of evolution. Now, whilst in humans it is reasonable to assume it has remained around precisely because of the stigma attached to it (ie people have suppressed their homosexual urges and had children as a form of denial, thereby passing on their gay genes), this does not explain why it is still present in animals. Surely animals (solitary ones at least)wouldn't care what other animals thought and would simply not mate "normally"? |
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making children is so selfish |
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Making children is the only true purpose of life. |
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