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promo
from United Kingdom on 2004-04-18 16:07 [#01148926]
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God help us! He he he.
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PhystPhukt
from The Holiest of Holes (United States) on 2004-04-18 16:07 [#01148927]
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Aint it great? And I wouldnt use a thin nedle either, I'd get one of those plasma donation metal chutes. After all its gotta be easy for me, thats where the baby comes from; The penis'll be alright as long as it still dispenses milky hair gel. --all smiles, all smiles everyone--
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-04-18 16:07 [#01148928]
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lets not forget changing diapers >;)
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-18 16:07 [#01148929]
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it's the body taking over. 'ormones 'n stuff.
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PhystPhukt
from The Holiest of Holes (United States) on 2004-04-18 16:08 [#01148932]
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Ewwww, mud butt.
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2004-04-18 16:09 [#01148937]
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well women are programmed in that order...find a husband get marry and have children.
imo...most of em are having just that vision...
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2004-04-18 16:11 [#01148941]
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wich i find a bit too straightforward
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-04-18 16:11 [#01148942]
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He he he...keep my son out of whatever shit you type.
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PhystPhukt
from The Holiest of Holes (United States) on 2004-04-18 16:11 [#01148944]
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Basically thats how america circa 1950 programmed them. S'shame that mentality is still around. That sort of breeding from stupid people produces alot more breeding from stupid people that were begotten of those stupid people.
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2004-04-18 16:12 [#01148948]
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You pissed? He he he.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-04-18 16:14 [#01148953]
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but how bout this... if you'd be willing to suck a guy off just so you can artificially inseminate yourself... why not let him fuck you and kill too birds with one stone?
no dick-in-mouth for you,
no needle-in-dick for mr. right.
it's a win-win situation!!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-18 16:14 [#01148957]
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The thing is, there really is (at least some element of) truth in the "biological clock" idea... even some women vehemently against having kids (career women, ardent feminists, etc.) "decide" to have kids when they reach a certain age. They can justify this any way they want (I did it for me, I wanted to bring a child into the world, it will make me and my partner more committed, I feel the need that some part of me should live on when I die, etc.), but ultimately it amounts to caving to your hormones.
People (especially the non-fatalistic) don't like the idea of how much hormones/genes/being human governs their actions and often deny it outright, but it's a large part in the way we behave.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-04-18 16:14 [#01148958]
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Not really. It's just seeing a peadophile referring to your son in some way or another is a little bit unnerving.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-18 16:15 [#01148959]
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oh my ha ha!!
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PhystPhukt
from The Holiest of Holes (United States) on 2004-04-18 16:15 [#01148960]
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Yeah, its a huge part. But I dont want to /give birth/ to......something.
If I'm raising anything, its adopted or its actually a kitten and you just dont know it..
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2004-04-18 16:16 [#01148963]
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A peadophile? El o El. You crack me up. Any more wild shit you'd like to throw at me? El o El.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-18 16:17 [#01148966]
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shave it strategically, learn it to walk upright and noone'll know.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-04-18 16:17 [#01148967]
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Have children, that's all you're here for. Everything else is a hobby. Get over it.
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PhystPhukt
from The Holiest of Holes (United States) on 2004-04-18 16:17 [#01148968]
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Yup.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-18 16:18 [#01148971]
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Bump this in 10 years and update us on your situation. ;-)
Seriosuly though, if you adopt rather than having kids yourself (as long as youre a halfway decent parent), you're doing some good and I salute you.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-04-18 16:18 [#01148973]
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wait now you don't even want to give birth?? well there goes the whole Looney-Toons style artificial insemination plan I had worked up for you!
*rips up blueprints*
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PhystPhukt
from The Holiest of Holes (United States) on 2004-04-18 16:18 [#01148975]
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I dont think we're here just to produce more braindead zombies. I think we are an Interplanetary extermination system, in fact. Why else would we be so shallow? We're parasites!
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PhystPhukt
from The Holiest of Holes (United States) on 2004-04-18 16:19 [#01148976]
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Theres always a test tube, dear. Dont worry. I just dont ant to split my seams. After hearing something after a fun time me and broccoli rubberbands, I kinda like my seams.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-04-18 16:20 [#01148978]
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what other planets have we exterminated so far?
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-18 16:20 [#01148981]
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evolution programmed them that way. They're the ones with the more expensive sex cells, eggs. Just look at breasts which give nourishment which could otherwise be used for themselves.
The probability that something will be wrong genetically with babies is increasing, as people with genetic oddities usually continue to reproduce thus passing them along. What if you end up having some fucked up kid, conjoined retards or something. Society wouldn't let you put it out of it's misery. Just look at qrter for example. I'm sure he wishes every day that his parents aborted him.
Here's a mindblowing question. If your mother aborted you... what would you be? well... it makes you question what exactly a "you" is.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-04-18 16:21 [#01148984]
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I reread that like 14 times... still don't get it.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-18 16:21 [#01148985]
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On a related note, who reckons fertility treatment (problems like quads and triplets, premature births, underweight babies, etc. aside) should be available on the NHS (UK healthcare funded by the taxpayer)?
Is it a "luxury" form of healthcare (that is, one not needed to relieve you of pain/prolong your life)?
Arguably, even paying for sex changes is a more "just" use of public funds (it's a hell of a lot cheaper than paying to treat their depression)?
You thoughts?
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PhystPhukt
from The Holiest of Holes (United States) on 2004-04-18 16:21 [#01148986]
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yeah, more and more people need to Adopt. And it PISSES me OFF that in most states, homosexuality is a just cause to deny a couple parenthood. All that says to me is this country wants to avoid as many homosexuals as possible, yet claims equal rights for everyone. ((Keyword - CLAIMS))
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-04-18 16:22 [#01148988]
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you're my favorite.
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PhystPhukt
from The Holiest of Holes (United States) on 2004-04-18 16:22 [#01148992]
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I would be nothing. And I wouldnt be too worried about it and neither would anyone else because I would never had existed. I dont feel too bitter about that, I'm pretty pro-choice. And I also believe in rebirth and reincarnation.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-04-18 16:23 [#01148995]
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how right you are.
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PhystPhukt
from The Holiest of Holes (United States) on 2004-04-18 16:24 [#01148998]
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Thats odd, I've only visited the Uk so I didnt know they had such use of funds. But other than that, I used to live with a guy who had a sex change. I wish he hadnt had to pay for it.
Lemme see, gov funds for Sex changes or bombs and funding the little finger foods at the elections?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-18 16:25 [#01149001]
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why are you offering me sexual favours in your avatar?
yet again, Ian, I have to decline. I'm sorry.
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PhystPhukt
from The Holiest of Holes (United States) on 2004-04-18 16:25 [#01149002]
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.....Just dont worry about it. --laughs--
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-18 16:26 [#01149005]
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"Here's a mindblowing question. If your mother aborted you...
what would you be? well... it makes you question what exactly a "you" is."
Yes, that's something I've been interested in for years... how much could you change and still be you? For example, say you went back in time and through your actions, caused your parents to conceive you a day (or evena few minutes) earlier or later, would you still be "you"? Would even just looking a bit different change your life enough that your personality would be significantly different?
Unless you adopt the religious idea that bodies being born are simply "chassis" that souls are put into (hence the body is merely a shell for your conciousness), there is no easy answer...
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PhystPhukt
from The Holiest of Holes (United States) on 2004-04-18 16:26 [#01149006]
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Not so far...none. But dont deny thats its something thats so soon to some. We are very egotistical for what we are as humans.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-04-18 16:26 [#01149007]
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Damn this is a HOT TOPIC!
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-18 16:27 [#01149009]
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that's not so much about genetics, but much more about disturbing the past.
I mean, a whole day! all kinds of accidents wouldn't happen to you, bad and good.
it could have profound effects on your personality, yes.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-18 16:28 [#01149010]
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In this crazy existence you don't even know for sure if someone of the opposite sex isn't someone with a sex change operation, unless you grew up with them. And they could always keep it a secret from you forever.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-04-18 16:28 [#01149013]
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Oh I definately agree with you there.. I was just being an arse ;)
The thing is, in my opinion the whole of human civilization as we know it is so totally insignificant in even our galaxy, let alone the entire universe, that we will NEVER amount to anything organized or powerful or advanced enough to exterminate other planets..... outside of our own.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-18 16:29 [#01149015]
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Yeah, it costs £3000 for a sex change. To the NHS, that's small potatoes. Treating that person for depression resulting from feeling "trapped" in the wrong sort of body over the course of their live can easily run to twenty times that. I know a couple of pretty conservative (even religious!) doctors/medics who, whilst being opposed to the idea of sex changes, agree that it is the cheapest/best solution in some cases.
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PhystPhukt
from The Holiest of Holes (United States) on 2004-04-18 16:29 [#01149017]
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I dont think the 'Room of Gaf' idealism is something thats EVER made any sense to me. Its like saying we started out as water bottles, then someone "Blessedly" filled us with water....
I operate from a very Pagan/Shinto perspective. I believe that 'You' is very subjective, because more than one, or even 2 people can share the same "Soul" or essence. Sort of like metaphysical umbilical cords. Look, I'd hafta be drunk to ecplain exactly what it is I believe, but feel free to ask me anything else. I'll TRY to explain my point of view without appearing schizophrenic.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-18 16:30 [#01149020]
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I don't want to have children.
to me, the responsibility would be mindblowing. I also come from a very unstable family background, so I don't think I'm equipped very well to bring up anyone.
on the other hand - lots of people I work with are dropping children like rain. it does somehow move me.
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Doomed Puppy
from on and off and on and off and on 2004-04-18 16:30 [#01149022]
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Sex change operations some times take place a few hours after birth...
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PhystPhukt
from The Holiest of Holes (United States) on 2004-04-18 16:30 [#01149023]
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It'll be a power struggle. Should the situation ever come up. Humans have a built in "Bigger penis than you, fucker" mentality.
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PhystPhukt
from The Holiest of Holes (United States) on 2004-04-18 16:32 [#01149026]
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Yeah, my backgrounds pretty fucked up too. I wouldnt want the kid to have ANYTHING to do with my family. Especially after moving out at age 15 when your own father tries to prostitue you through a hair salon. No way no how. The kids Aunts, uncles and siblings would be those of my dearest friends most likely.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-04-18 16:32 [#01149027]
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I like the sound of more than one person sharing a soul. That's a nice idea.
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PhystPhukt
from The Holiest of Holes (United States) on 2004-04-18 16:32 [#01149029]
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Which I think is bush, because they dont know what sort of mentality the kid has a few hours after birth.
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Doomed Puppy
from on and off and on and off and on 2004-04-18 16:33 [#01149035]
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It would be fucking awesome if we could.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-18 16:34 [#01149037]
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There was good document on hermaphrodites on TV the other week. I had no idea it was as common as 1 in 4000 children.
The way that sex change operations are becoming so advanced is one of the biggest arguments (and this ties in with Key Secret's law thread...) for making it mandatory that at least a copy of the original birth certificate is kept on file(showing a person's original sex) is to "protect" future partners (particularly if it offends their religious beliefs).
Can you imagine if you married a girl and only when trying to conceive (unsuccessfully) did they level with you and tell you they used to be male? Even if you stuck with them, it'd be very hard to trust them again...
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