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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-18 17:24 [#01149153]
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whoa, "social programming". Defining it like that makes it interesting. That would be a good google phrase (+ law) to find interesting things, I'm sure as opposed to what one would find in typical law school.
"everything we do is part of human evolution." well... I think evolution is currently toppling over on itself in quite an insane incomprehensible way, probably an unhealthy way that has a net negative effect, pain-wise/feeling unfit for environment-wise on all creatures it effects (Uh.. all of them on earth I guess).
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Doomed Puppy
from on and off and on and off and on 2004-04-18 17:27 [#01149159]
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What you wrote is interesting. In fact the homosexual behaviour of animals could be completely different to the one of humans. On the other hand I think you should consider that primates and a few other mammals do have ultra primitive social structures.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-18 17:27 [#01149160]
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well, homosexuality is present in behaviour with animals.
we don't exactly see an ape having sex with a same sex ape as a "homosexual ape".
in other words, animals aren't homosexual, they sometimes behave homosexually. they will still mate and procreate.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-04-18 17:28 [#01149161]
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you'd be cool if it wasn't for the fact that you are completely not.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-18 17:29 [#01149162]
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having them, on the other hand..
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-04-18 17:29 [#01149164]
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Homosexual behaviour is not necessarily an exclusive sexual preferrence. Never has, never will be. Humans form emotional bonds with different people of different sexes at different stages of life in different circumstances. Many males try to hide the fact that they have found other males attractive at some stage of life. This is the unnatural behaviour that has stigmatised the whole issue of homosexuality.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-04-18 17:29 [#01149165]
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btw, how am I wrong?
I love asslickers (read: ecnadniarb) that tell people how wrong they are all the time but offer no other substance in their attacks.
lee, read my lips:
EAT SHIT.
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2004-04-18 17:30 [#01149166]
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nobody knows and i don't care
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-18 17:31 [#01149168]
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you take a kind of weird moral view of evolution, as if there's a "good" and "bad" evolution.
evolution is just WHAT happens, the effects it has.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-04-18 17:31 [#01149171]
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No offense but I don't know who the fuck you are, or why you have a problem with me...but before you start the personal attacks like homo promo I would just like to inform you it really isn't worth the bother because I don't give a fuck.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-04-18 17:32 [#01149174]
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Zephyr Twin read my post above your one calling me an asslicker or whatever...sort of made you look a tit.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-18 17:32 [#01149175]
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Yeah, I'm cautious of the negative connotations that the term has (it almost sounds like social engineering, the original sociological meaning, not the hacking term), but laws are really little different from procedural rules/definitions in computer programming. Unless you believe there are should be no control over our actions (eg you're an anarchist), you agree there is a need for law. Laws are rules that govern our actions. You could argue that ethics/morals are more flexible versions (laws that can be broken) of these rules.
I find law study itself a bit dry (memorising cases bores the hell out of me, even if debating statues is good fun), but the idea of law fascinates me.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-18 17:34 [#01149178]
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I keep hearing of "scientific" tests that find gayness in nonhuman animals. But I havn't studied any specific examples. My intuition tells me that there would be a desire to produce pseudo scientific data to support the existence of homosexuality- for social rather than scientific reasons. I bet a lot of people who speak about said science data speak only memetically from directly hearing it from someone else. Just look at paranormal etc. "science" with people stumbling over scientific "data" and believing it's possible. Of course maybe homosexuality really occurs in other animals other than stan's dog on south park, again I havn't studied any examples. If it does, since animals have very limited culture it must be at least partially genetic. Who cares. It's just a piece of a humongous incomprehensible puzzle of what's happening to evolution right now. From things I've read, I have the idea that it's tumbling in a negative direction rather than producing something grand... well maybe something like artilects will spring out of this. It can't go on forever like this... hell maybe it can. There's so much exponential change now. It'd be nice to have everything innately recognizable and soothingly repetitive like it might have been for ancient creatures.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-04-18 17:38 [#01149184]
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hehe I can imagine that you are a very good public speaker. You deliver information in a very confident way as though you know what you are talking about...even if you don't.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-18 17:41 [#01149190]
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If that's the case the reason could be.. what's the biological term, oh yeah "misfiring". It's behavior that evolved for one purpose but accidently get's mixed up. That's a shitty explanation but an example is those brood parasitic cuckoo birds. Cuckoos (I think) lay eggs in other birds nests. These unwilling fosterbirds misfire their behavior, caring for the egg that isn't theirs... because their behavior evolved to .. care for eggs obviously. They even care expecially for it because it's so big. But just like that, an anus can be mistaken for a vagina or qrter's face.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-04-18 17:43 [#01149195]
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hahahaha
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Doomed Puppy
from on and off and on and off and on 2004-04-18 17:44 [#01149196]
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"It'd be nice to have everything innately recognizable and soothingly repetitive like it might have been for ancient creatures."
This is an innate need in all humans. Don't worry multinational corporations are working on that.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-18 17:46 [#01149200]
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Well we all have our the world assembled as information in each of our individual brains. You could question the validity/truth of information/ideas/thoughts I present, fair enough, but who's to say you're brain has it all assembled correctly. But actually, I am a terrible terrible terrible public speaker. I have a touch of agoraphobia, which probably has tons of different possible causes rather than being one single "illness". The most I ever say in day to day life, is minimal syllable tit for tat batting back of greetings etc. such as "hi, how are you" "I'm fine how are you".
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-18 17:49 [#01149203]
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I do sometimes wonder just how fucked up my brain is though. I wonder if maybe I'm stunted somehow or have some problem that other people don't have. There's no way to know really since I'm only ever possible to observe things with my own brain.. I can't compare it to others.. like people who don't know they're colorblind.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-18 17:50 [#01149205]
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If it wasn't for writing I'd be fucked. I'd be much stupider even than I am now.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-18 17:59 [#01149215]
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Ha ha! I win! I did it! I'm the only one left! You all got OWNED in this topic! Onward to the next topic!
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-18 18:01 [#01149219]
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If you cloned yourself into enough people to form a messageboard, would you... or any of you... bother talking to yourselves?
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Doomed Puppy
from on and off and on and off and on 2004-04-18 18:02 [#01149220]
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1 2 3.... This is Satan speaking.... Kill yourself!!!!
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-18 18:03 [#01149221]
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I would... for awhile, then I'd do something else... probably.
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Doomed Puppy
from on and off and on and off and on 2004-04-18 18:03 [#01149223]
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Risperdal. Do some research
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-18 18:06 [#01149226]
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Satan... I've always believed in you. I know you're the good god. The religions are so wicked they try to spin you off as evil. Thanks for your helpful advice. I will probably take it someday.
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leonid_olusegun
from outside your window on 2004-04-18 18:08 [#01149229]
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id imagine havin a kid as wonderful as listenin to flim. i am drunk but i think im onta sumpthin :)
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-18 18:09 [#01149231]
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Just remember you all belong to a species of a bunch of crazy fucking monkeys. So don't even bother trying taking things too seriously. We're all gonna die and even that's funny.
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Doomed Puppy
from on and off and on and off and on 2004-04-18 18:11 [#01149235]
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OMG w M w's first experience with DRUGS!!!!!
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-04-18 18:14 [#01149243]
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You're right, its fun at first, but the more you listen to it, the less fun it is.
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leonid_olusegun
from outside your window on 2004-04-18 18:15 [#01149246]
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yeah diein keeps interin my heed.its weird, but i like realisin im only human - mortal, so to make the most of what i givin. i saw my ex tonight - miss her dearly but it would never work so i guess im realisin my boundaries - fuk im soo drunk sorry for thids
enjoy what u got i spose is the point of it
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PhystPhukt
from The Holiest of Holes (United States) on 2004-04-18 19:17 [#01149363]
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'Unnatural behavior'? 'Not an exclusive sexual preference'? Thats bullshit. And I hate to break it to you, but you may be well read, but you are very naive.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-18 20:18 [#01149406]
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you scared off all the sane people.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-18 20:22 [#01149408]
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that sounds like a pretty bad example.
I mean, the birds who foster the cuckoo's eggs ARE doing what they are supposed to do, just not to preserve their genetic material. it's not like the fosterbirds will from now on only foster cuckoo eggs.
but I kind of get what you in your own bumbling want to say.
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when you speak, do you cover people in spit? you do, don't you?
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2004-04-18 20:29 [#01149410]
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holy post count
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Jedy
from dublin (Ireland) on 2004-04-19 00:57 [#01149515]
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i have a son and i love him
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princess chimpy
from the secret place (New Zealand) on 2004-04-19 01:48 [#01149529]
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i would like kids but not for a good while yet
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nacmat
on 2004-04-19 01:55 [#01149532]
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yes I would like
2. to be a better father than mine
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nacmat
on 2004-04-19 01:57 [#01149533]
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we would all go to the swimming pool with our pink caps
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-04-19 02:03 [#01149540]
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I hate children, but I think I'd love my own children. I want!
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-04-19 12:39 [#01150499]
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No kids for me. I'm too selfish with my time, I've got too many interests and hobbies and I couldn't stand having my time stolen like that. Not to mention I'm a mega loser, ha. I don't like what I see when I observe parents and married couples, either.
I do like kids, though. As long as they're not mine.
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detheel
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