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nacmat
on 2003-08-14 03:57 [#00821177]
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10 usd a year is really very little money, and there are lots of ways of paying, not only credit cards... so really any of us could afford such a payment (10 usd a year... come on, its 0.83 usd a month)
maybe it would keep lots of trolls away from the site, cos it wouldnt be funny anymore to come and troll around... not if you have to pay.
well surely it wouldnt end with the problem, but surely with most of it.
the problem I see is: lots of nice people here wouldnt like to pay, so the place would loose those nice regulars... and I dont really know how to deal with that.
well maybe this idea is just stupid and nazi, I dont know
but, what do you think?
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S M Pennyworth
from East Timor on 2003-08-14 03:58 [#00821178]
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personally i dont mind the trolls, i just dont pay attention to them :)
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-14 04:01 [#00821179]
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yeah but you and i are about the only ones with that attitude, or so it seems :|
not that i think everyone should pay or stay away. or maybe they should pay to post, is that what you mean, nacmat? cause it is important that all the other information is publicly available...
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-14 04:06 [#00821180]
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please, you cant really EXPECT people to pay ANYTHING for a message board and a little online community. THere's hundreds of these boards around. Making contributions voluntary for extra privaleges is a great idea. Making it mandatory is just fucking dumb.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-08-14 04:14 [#00821185]
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I was kind of thinking about becoming a premium member or whatever it is called, but if it was made mandatory I wouldn't bother.
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-14 04:18 [#00821188]
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its beyond pretentious
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-08-14 04:20 [#00821189]
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yeah sure, that would be a great way of getting rid of trolls. however, it's not the ultimate solution.
i guess our current system is pretty good: feel free to donate and get a premium account back!
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-14 04:24 [#00821192]
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I might well do that whenever the damn bank gets off their arses and sends me the credit card i ordered 2 weeks ago :)
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Chri5py
from my Solarbear (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-14 04:26 [#00821194]
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Yea guys ... it's still a choice.
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nacmat
on 2003-08-14 04:29 [#00821195]
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in fact this actual method is quite good... maybe my idea was a bit radical.... I see this place is really in good hands, as its dificult to stay away from radical ideas sometimes.
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nacmat
on 2003-08-14 04:29 [#00821196]
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of course I was talking about the MB not about the whole place
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Dolleater
from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-08-14 04:39 [#00821203]
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Why are you trying to take xltronic away from me?
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nacmat
on 2003-08-14 04:42 [#00821204]
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I was not, sorry
I see now that obligatory payment will possibly not be a good idea.
at least lots of people are doing the voluntary donation
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Dolleater
from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-08-14 05:10 [#00821211]
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No hard feelings my spanish pin-up.
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2003-08-14 06:39 [#00821321]
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It would keep everyone away. What a foolish notion.
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-08-14 06:43 [#00821328]
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There will always be trolls..
Until the end of time, trolls.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-08-14 06:51 [#00821341]
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true, do you think skypharmer wouldnt jump at the chance to pay $10.00 to fuck up another site ?
*did you get my email about the radiohead contest ?
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2003-08-14 06:53 [#00821347]
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Trolling is an ART FORM !!
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-08-14 07:02 [#00821369]
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i'd be out of here. mandatory $10 for a web site about music? i go to lots of music sites that get much more traffic than this one and only some of them ask for money, and it's merely an optional donation (set your own amount). if i need a discography i'll go to allmusic.com or discogs.com. if i wanted to see the album cover, i'd get out my cd case. if i wanted videos and mp3's, i'd go on soulseek. i'm here for the message board (but i wish xltronic crew the best at their project because it means a lot to other people).
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big
from lsg on 2003-08-14 07:05 [#00821373]
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also you wouldnt attrack new people
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-08-14 07:06 [#00821374]
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Yes because the people willing to pay arre the people who have been herre a long time.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-08-14 07:11 [#00821379]
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and in your case, thats a bad thing ?
:0)
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-08-14 07:16 [#00821391]
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hardcore user!
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-08-14 07:23 [#00821403]
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i'm just being honest with you phobia because so many people don't tell you the truth. you won't see $10 from a lot of us because we simply have more important and more necessary things to do with that money. that's not an insult, it's reality.
anyway, it's not like you're the one proposing that the site go pay-only. i think making it optional, and giving donors extra access and abilities, was a good idea.
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nacmat
on 2003-08-14 09:43 [#00821687]
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ok, sorry for such an stupid idea...
I should have think of it more, before than just posting it
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epohs
from )C: on 2003-08-14 09:44 [#00821691]
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it's good to discuss this type of thing in public view.
me thinks it's not a good idea to turn this into a pay site.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-08-14 09:45 [#00821694]
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NO !, it was an intersting proposition
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nacmat
on 2003-08-14 09:47 [#00821697]
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well I dont like the idea if people like titsworth would leave the place.
and its true that it would be difficult to attract new people
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-08-14 09:49 [#00821699]
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everybody wants money
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-08-14 09:49 [#00821700]
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that's not what i was saying at all. it's a good thought, and to answer the original question:
i'm not sure if ending the free site will end trolls. a lot of long-time users get called trolls or are told they are trolling. some of these people have been here a long time and like the board, so they would feel compelled to contribute money to it and be paying members. also, if you're always getting in trouble for harassing people, what better way to get out of trouble is there but to give the webmaster $10 as a sort of bribe? i'm not sure it would work but that certainly wouldn't stop people from trying.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-08-14 10:10 [#00821742]
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$4.50 ?
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-08-14 10:12 [#00821745]
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who cares about trolls anyways, this isn't life.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-08-14 10:13 [#00821750]
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*checks pulse* i believe you are mistaken
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-08-14 10:17 [#00821759]
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true, whos the dude in your avatar ?
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-08-14 10:21 [#00821765]
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more importantly, who are the people in YOUR avatar!
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-08-14 10:23 [#00821769]
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me and your mom
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-08-14 10:25 [#00821777]
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Is it me being stupid but why are the people who run this board so desperate for little pissant amounts of money. There are a lots easier ways to make a couple of hundred dollars. Seriously get a life please. However if its a question of covering costs well thats something else I might be able to accept.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-08-14 10:27 [#00821784]
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$10.00 from a few people helps Phobiazero to pay the bills
HE DOES NOT WANT POP-UPS !!
i agree
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-08-14 10:39 [#00821805]
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promo: yes, you're prolly stupid. it is a question of covering costs. i thought you've payed attention to the threads?
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-08-14 10:43 [#00821819]
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being stupid does not mean that you are stupid
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-08-14 10:45 [#00821827]
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Trolls? That's what moderators are for - to hunt and kill trolls with their magic flame sword enchanted by Ifrit.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-08-14 10:45 [#00821829]
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i bet warp would pay to have warpmart banners in the discography, like click here to go buy this cd @ warpmart.
since the site's going to be practically devoted to warp anyway, i don't see this as "selling out". you're urging everyone to buy these albums regardless, why not cover some costs this way. have you asked warp if they'd pay to put banners in the discog, phobia?
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-08-14 10:46 [#00821831]
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+3 Wisdom
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-08-14 10:49 [#00821842]
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Travis-----great idea !!
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2003-08-14 10:59 [#00821878]
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cmon people - its $10 - ten measely dollars. i mean - if you cant afford to pay $10 a year for a great servive - you probably shouldnt even be spending your money on a computer and the internet bills and whatnot. im sure everyone here can manage to collect $10 easily - grab some change from under the couch. stop smoking - whatever.
$10 is not a lot of money - im 15 with no job and parents that dont give me money - and i can get $10 in a week easily.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-08-14 11:03 [#00821890]
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for $10 i can get a cd, a book, 2 lunches, 3 or 4 video rentals, or give to a favorite charity or political group (mine is U.S. PIRG, who i'm a member of and also worked for one summer). i sympathize with anyone paying hundreds of dollars to run a web site, but that's a choice they made and i have no reason to give them my money so i can read, view, and listen to the same things that are on other sites for free. all i will give is my encouragement and compliments on their progress.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-08-14 11:06 [#00821903]
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first they gouge your $10.00 then they raise your bills every year another 2-3% whats next, they want my first born ?
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2003-08-14 11:09 [#00821915]
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well - im sure you can go without video rentals for a week or two? (assuming you rent 3-4 vids every 2 weeks or so)
besides - like you said earlier - you can always d/l movies and whatnot.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-08-14 11:13 [#00821929]
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yea but i don't download movies, burn cd's, etc. for me personally (just me), it's not worth paying $10 for any web site unless you're getting exclusive content. if xltronic has that, and it might, i would probably donate.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-08-14 11:20 [#00821946]
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like a pornsite?!?!!!!!111
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