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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-10-17 12:11 [#02134067]
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they just need to mantain that 'artsy' outlook and they're all set. their music is straight enough so mainstream audience can take it. and they do take it because that way they can say they're alternative too. im sure there are plenty of people who enjoy it for music (such as yourself i guess), but i don't have any doubts there are also lots of those who just listen to them so that they turn out cool infront of their friends. and that's hype.
they've done a few really nice songs but all this hype is way exaggerated..just because they're cool. and yes, once again, i can understand there are people like yourself who find their music brilliant for other reasons. but given that there are many of those who don't know a thing about music who praise them, radiohead don't need to do anything to sell but to keep that same artsy pose.
as for that remark on throat singing..if they used it in a way that i would find nice then sure. you know, there are couple of songs on the new album i find alright. i wish i knew what it is that makes some people say it's best album this year..it's even stranger because i can enjoy music like that and im pretty open minded about music in general.
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from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2007-10-17 12:15 [#02134074]
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this thread is turning out to be ghey+ with all of the arguing
its just Radiohead
they are great
the end
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-10-17 12:17 [#02134076]
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no argue just talk
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from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2007-10-17 12:19 [#02134078]
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people are taking this "talk" way to fucking deep, its all the people on all the 100000s of messageboards that take away from the beauty of the album and how it was released
so just shut the fuck up and listen to the tunes love it/hate it, who cares
the end
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George_Kaplan
on 2007-10-17 12:21 [#02134081]
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yeah stop talking you bastards
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-10-17 12:22 [#02134082]
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right..it's pretty pointless. specially because i don't mind people who like them for their music. eventhough i can't hear it : )
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from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2007-10-17 12:24 [#02134086]
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you havent heard "in rainbows" or you cant "hear" radiohead in general, im thinking the later, tis sad for you then
i could totally crank Kid-A and Amnesiac now, but I hve to listen to this Audioslave shite at work.....
pray for me-
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-10-17 12:31 [#02134099]
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i don't hear what it is about their music that makes them so great, yeah. as i said before, i like couple of songs though. 'how to disappear comletly' is my favourite one and i can say i love it, but most of other stuff doesn't do much for me.
*prays for recycle*
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from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2007-10-17 12:33 [#02134107]
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thx tolstoyed
right now the new kid rock is on, I actually like that one
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2007-10-17 12:58 [#02134132]
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Listen I don't mean to offend anyone that really likes radiohead, I really like their music I really do, but I'm just complaining because I think the somewhere, the whole thing got distorted and seems dis honest. You know what, it isn't really radioheads fault as much as it's the people that whore-ship them.
Wu tang released there entire catalog on their website, Dave Matthews donates millions of dollars to charities, and countless other bands have released music on their own dollar for free. I guess what I'm trying to say is, fuck off.
"Well I'm all for supporting artists who create beautiful art.
That's the only criterion I find to be relevant. If I enjoy its beauty, then I shall reward them with my respect, admiration and monetary credit. "
Me too, and I would sooner shell out money for Saskrotch, Paul F Savage, Earvalve, Oddioblender, Impakt, and so many others here then to pay for Radioheads 3 gas guslin tour busses.
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from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2007-10-17 13:00 [#02134136]
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home taping is killing the record business
gew = few
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2007-10-17 13:17 [#02134144]
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:D
Sorry guys, I don't mean to be a dick or take up too much space in the thread.
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from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2007-10-17 13:25 [#02134147]
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id rather read that post 10x than most other stuff said in this thread, youve spoken well
although, id rather see three radiohead gas guslin tour busses than Saskrotch, PFS, Earvalve, Oddioblender and Impakt all added together :)
kidding man, life is what it is, radiohead are what they are
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Vin3islih
from United Kingdom on 2007-10-17 14:51 [#02134239]
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And you're good for talking utter shit, generally.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-10-17 14:53 [#02134243]
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are you affraid i may be right?
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Vin3islih
from United Kingdom on 2007-10-17 15:04 [#02134247]
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No, I disagree with your ideas and don't feel you are familiar enough with the band. You are making brash arguments painting them as publicity seekers and trying to make out that people "know don't know a thing about music" only like them to be cool.
Just who determines whether someone knows a thing about music anyway? You? How many albums does someone have to listen to before the know about music? Besides, you're average 15 yr old has probably downloaded more shit than you did at that age I'd bet, which makes your ascertion even more worthless.
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George_Kaplan
on 2007-10-17 15:08 [#02134248]
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yeah sorry i take that back its not a publicity stunt theyre just extremely lucky
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-10-17 15:11 [#02134249]
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when does someone know something about music? when they're interested enough to look up something new..something on their own. as opposed to what media/labels serve them.
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Vin3islih
from United Kingdom on 2007-10-17 15:17 [#02134252]
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it's a way to release a record. If people decide to report on it... then great. Radiohead were the first out the door. And they're reaping the rewards. It is publicity, but Radiohead haven't paid for it.
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Vin3islih
from United Kingdom on 2007-10-17 15:19 [#02134255]
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everyone starts somewhere obviously. If some people start on this Radiohead album and aren't familiar with other music, there are worse places they could start than here. What's your problem with that?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-10-17 15:21 [#02134258]
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that's not what i've been saying. and i don't have a problem. it's you radiohead fans that keep coming at me.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-10-17 15:22 [#02134260]
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radiohead werent the 1sr, what gave you that idea? there are lots of other artists who put up their music for free but since they're not popular with schoolyboys no one knew ablut it and media wasn't interested in it either.
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Vin3islih
from United Kingdom on 2007-10-17 15:23 [#02134261]
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so you don't have a problem then? You accept that people who listen to this album aren't doing it to be cool.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-10-17 15:25 [#02134262]
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no. im positive lots of their listeners do it to be cool, but it isn't my problem.
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Vin3islih
from United Kingdom on 2007-10-17 15:28 [#02134264]
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first big band out the door, so it's a publicity stunt because the big band tries something different. OK, I understand now. Bollocks. They couldn't win anyway. There would be you or someone complaining about them if they made a mint releasing by traditional means as you clearly have a dislike of the band (and very hard to please generally going by posts elsewhere). I'm not sure whether picking arguments is the best option, so I'll back off from here.
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from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2007-10-17 15:29 [#02134265]
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would you two shut the fuck up you proved my point again in this thread quit arguing its just radiohead great music like it or dont the end.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-10-17 15:30 [#02134266]
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i never said anything about they way they released this album. you're confusing my with someone else.
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misantroll
from Switzerland on 2007-10-17 15:30 [#02134267]
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paranoïd android??
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2007-10-17 15:44 [#02134272]
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How much of that 10 million will go to English taxes? Half?
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Spprw
from Czech Republic on 2007-10-17 22:14 [#02134391]
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how would they even know this? I really doubt they brought in 10 million from this
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big
from lsg on 2007-10-18 01:31 [#02134409]
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me 2 maybe relatively more who bought it want to show this by filling out the survey, why the ones who paid nothing thought it was a crappy album and didn't bother to fill it out
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-10-18 02:59 [#02134429]
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did any of you stop to think that maybe just one person in the world bought the album and thought it was worth 10 million dollars
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-10-18 02:59 [#02134430]
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because i don't think anybody has stopped to think that
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hexane
on 2007-10-18 03:06 [#02134431]
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lol
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2007-10-18 04:31 [#02134450]
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Those are some of the ridiculous things I would do if I were Bill Gates
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from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2007-10-18 07:34 [#02134480]
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Bill Gates = Radiohead = The Tuss
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big
from lsg on 2007-10-18 07:54 [#02134491]
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i'd go to radiohead and burn 10 million in front of their eyes
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Combo
from Sex on 2007-10-18 09:03 [#02134502]
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Too bad Radiohead sucks so much.
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melack
from barcielwave on 2007-10-18 12:18 [#02134592]
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radiohead is not cool anymore, isnt it?
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OK
on 2007-10-18 12:19 [#02134593]
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it's all based on unreliable data, some firm calculated around 1.2 million downloads based on website traffic, then some other site made a poll to find out the average price people paid.
the poll must certainly have some bias towards people who paid something.
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Vin3islih
from United Kingdom on 2007-10-18 12:22 [#02134594]
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I'm sure lots of people listen to your favourite music to be cool as well then. You can argue the other way. The more unknown your music, the hipper you must feel. You are subsequently cool in your own head. You know about stuff someone else doesn't. You can subsequently talk down about more well known music like Radiohead to make you feel more superior.
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Vin3islih
from United Kingdom on 2007-10-18 12:25 [#02134595]
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You were responding to my post about how they released this being a publicity seeking exercise. In that case, if I misread what you are talking about I am glad you don't feel Radiohead are publicity seekers.
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from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2007-10-18 12:49 [#02134611]
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Radiohead want you to shut the fuck up(remix).
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-10-18 13:56 [#02134683]
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see..that's how radiohead fans think about music. it is exactly that sort of thinking that bothers me.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2007-10-18 14:07 [#02134689]
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when will you give up your "everything i like is good, everything i hate is bad, if you like what i don't like you like it for stupid, unjustifiable reasons" bullshit.
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2007-10-18 14:08 [#02134691]
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You are both wrong my opinion is the only valid one here
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-10-18 14:14 [#02134698]
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dunno where you picked that from im affraid as i never said anything like it. i don't even think you can address music with bad or good. it's all about personal (subjective) preference.
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OK
on 2007-10-18 15:10 [#02134715]
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i have no idea how it is that tostoyed thinks he knows the reasons people listen to music for. like he is enlightened or something.
save us tolstoyed from making choices for the wrong reasons!, you know better than all of us toghether, you deserve to have the power to make choices for us. clearly people are stupid and can't choose for themselves, save us from freedom please!
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2007-10-18 15:18 [#02134716]
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many moons ago we had a discussion of what made music good or bad, and you insisted that there was such a thing as good music and bad music. i remember more of this stuff than i want to.
that's somewhat of a generalization...maybe you were just winding us up. i've been mistaken before.
also your insistence that people are interested in the radiohead album because that's what the media is feeding them...of course there are always some fashionistas, but it seems presumptuous and arrogant to paint every radiohead fan with the same brush.
although i do believe that at some point you acknowledged your radiohead prejudice. ; )
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SlipDrinkMats
from Thanks (Bhutan) on 2007-10-18 15:18 [#02134717]
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I like this new Radiohead music, it's the best thing I've heard by them, as a whole, I think. Sounds like they lost their interest in fucking IDM pretty damn quick, a lesson we could all learn from.
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