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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2006-12-02 23:24 [#02011618]
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watmm
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-02 23:25 [#02011620]
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what did we do to deserve this attack
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-02 23:25 [#02011622]
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O mighty zaphod
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Mr Brazil
from Oh Joan, I love you so... on 2006-12-02 23:34 [#02011643]
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Is this like some kind of retaliation from a recently banned member...a member who used to be a moderator?
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2006-12-02 23:44 [#02011654]
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good heavens.
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Mr Brazil
from Oh Joan, I love you so... on 2006-12-02 23:47 [#02011657]
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Why is it when this happens, moderators are absent?
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2006-12-02 23:57 [#02011663]
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spin off threads = B7
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-12-03 00:58 [#02011670]
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Probably happens more often than you think, but mods are there to clean it up before you see it. Anyway, fuck, out of the goodness of my heart, I'll do it now. Fuck. I hope they aren't banned yet so I can have the pleasure.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-12-03 01:00 [#02011671]
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WTF, I can only close them, not delete them. Witchcraft.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2006-12-03 01:16 [#02011681]
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yeah i heard about that
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2006-12-03 02:01 [#02011689]
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Looks like it's planned to spoil Ophecks' FF-marathon. Ow, the nerves some guys have...
Can we start to make some Osama Bin Watmm jokes now? WaTora BoraMM?
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-03 03:08 [#02011762]
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b6
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-03 03:45 [#02011778]
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maybe xltv2 is watmm
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xceque
on 2006-12-03 03:46 [#02011780]
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Right, well thanks to phob's "great" "idea" of taking away some of the moderators already awkward mod tools I can't actually delete all these wanker posts, so the board will have to look like shit.
I can however ban anyone who thinks, for instance, "i'll just post a topic called 'oven' and post 'bun' in it simply because there's all these other closed topics" is funny. Because it isn't.
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uviol
from United States on 2006-12-03 11:25 [#02012055]
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"i'll just post a topic called 'oven' and post 'bun' in it simply
because there's all these other closed topics" is funny. Because it isn't.
Hahaha, actually I laughed while reading that.. sorry! :x
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ecnadniarb
on 2006-12-03 11:53 [#02012064]
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You have virginpusher to thank for that.
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ecnadniarb
on 2006-12-03 11:55 [#02012066]
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Although I guess in v2 the board could allow moderators to flag topics to be deleted which could prevent them from being shown while still giving phobia final say on whether they go forever or get reinstated.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2006-12-03 11:57 [#02012067]
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That sounds like a nice feature to me
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-03 12:20 [#02012082]
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that's like that vanilla forum thingie
I tried it once, and I never figured out how I could actually delete the topics; they just laid there "hidden" (I could see them).
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2006-12-03 12:22 [#02012084]
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that was most amusing.
i wonder if anyone if stupid enough to make that topic.
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ecnadniarb
on 2006-12-03 12:26 [#02012087]
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Dunno what you are on about when it comes to the vanilla forum? Never heard of it.
The actual implementation of this sort of thing is pretty easy and straight forward though.
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-04 08:27 [#02012424]
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-04 08:29 [#02012426]
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ְֱֲֳֳִֵֶ 463;ָֻٍِٕ
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-04 08:32 [#02012430]
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it's called lussumo vanilla or something.. it's kind of neat, but just a bitch to moderate, so I didn't bother
but I think it could work nicely if done here, the problem with that was that you only had the hide option, there was no proper way of deleting stuff because it's still being developed...
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Joyrex
from watmm.com (United States) on 2006-12-04 09:02 [#02012444]
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My prediction: XLTv2 will launch with an out of the box forum, from one of the big three messageboard companies.
Messageboards are like any other internet tool - they have a standard feature set that most people expect to be there, and when a custom effort like this (albeit a good one) lacks standard features, the community complains (and suffers) because of it.
If anyone wanted to be really malicious, they could attempt SQL injection attacks like they do on the large commercial forums, although the commercial forums have the support to ensure such things get fixed quickly before they become widespread.
There's no reason a version of VB or IPB couldn't be customized (both visually and feature-wise) to look almost identical to the xlt forums, and add the extra features (like an edit function) that users here have wanted for years, in addition to adding moderation tools that make the moderators and administrators tasks easier and the board overall more secure.
(stand with arms outstretched, awaiting XLT firing squad)
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-04 09:04 [#02012445]
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-04 09:08 [#02012446]
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-04 09:12 [#02012449]
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STOP TALKING SENSE!
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-04 09:13 [#02012450]
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I don't get what I'm meant to see in either of these threads.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-04 09:24 [#02012462]
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pissing porn
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Chin Bwoy Phat
from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-04 09:28 [#02012465]
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you guys....
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2006-12-04 10:17 [#02012481]
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sorry to disappoint you, joyrex...
i believe in our concept/forum just as hard as you believe in mainstream and commercial forums...
to be honest, i feel sick everytime i see a forum from "one-of-the-three-messageboard-companies". it's prolly the scandinavian, minimalistic side of me.
but to nail the issue.... we can add a myriads of features and functions, but we choose to implement only stuff that makes sense. do you really think the lack of an edit-button is a technical issue due to our "custom" system? no. i've dismissed the idea of having an edit-feature just as long you've known html - due to various reasons (use the search-feature to find my previous rantings on this).
as for better tools for the admins, yeah... xltv2 will take care of that. we removed some of the admin-tools due to the infamous Virginpusher-scandal a couple of months ago. imagine a mod on drugs, feeling hatress against his webmaster, and at the same time having the power of deleting entire threads with a single click! well, we just thought we would disable these features for a while. it's not like we don't trust our current team of mods, but xltv2 is having a more enhanced set of admin-tools.
was that one of the issues with our custom software, joyrex?
i've personally seen ALOT more complains towards your forum than against xltronic/mb (maybe because i hardly visit watmm). (slow, ugly, clumsy, unstable and what's more...) but at least you can EDIT messages - HELL YEAH! :)
actually, i don't understand why you're still spreading your annoying, commercial pep-talk here after all these years... why don't you try to get some distance to your own "mess" over there? you don't have to answer that btw - i know it's like a nail in the eye. believe me.
well, time will tell...
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chaosmachine
from Ottawa (Canada) on 2006-12-04 10:36 [#02012485]
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commercial software isn't all roses.. and there are advantages to writing your own forum code..
either way can be good, just depends on what you're looking for.
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Sclah
from Freudian Slipmat on 2006-12-04 10:42 [#02012491]
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I like the graphic design on this forum. The only thing I'm not satisfied with is the column width, too narrow fields causes sore and toughened skin on the tip of my touchpad scroll finger.
Image posting is also a standard feature on most message boards, but I guess you need the donation inducement with us greedy bastards.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-04 10:49 [#02012495]
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I actually think the width is ok
the new width also looks like it'll work nicely, as long as it doesn't go all "we'll just use the whole screen," 'cause that's just really frustrating to read and takes way more time. I also hope there'll be some align:justify on the text in the future and maybe also a slightly larger font or at least the option to set it to slightly larger and not having to use the firefox zoom thing which kind of fucks the design just a tiny bit. It shows that size 12 (not verdana) could work nicely for the page, though.
Phobs also has the possibility of making the site xhtml strict and valid (which the commercial forums doesn't allow), but that'll usually get fucked when you hand it over to someone doing programming anyway.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2006-12-04 10:52 [#02012497]
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the limitation of picture-uploading is also a security-feature. we don't want just anyone to register here and post naughty pictures. members who are willing to get a premium account is somehow a bit more "trusted" and prolly wouldn't dare to sacrify their ten bucks just to get the satisfaction of posting a naughty picture.
BUT! this does not exclude the possibility of a premium member being naughty sometimes..... AND! there are many trusted members among the non-paying people of course...
but this is how it works like for now....
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-12-04 10:53 [#02012499]
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naughty schoolboys!!!
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2006-12-04 11:03 [#02012507]
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xltv2 will be xhtml 1.0 strict and is using css2 for the layout. just like any new web 2.0:ish site... however, we wont take ALL new technology to the edge... we're using some ajax to perform a few inpage functions, but just where it is appropriate and clever to do so (it's silly to reload a whole page just to fetch some data). xml will be used for some data-exchange etc etc.... standards, standards, standards...
i'm FULLY aware of xltronic's currently lack of compliant code and a bit unstructured content and design.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-04 12:14 [#02012539]
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2006-12-04 12:27 [#02012548]
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money talks, bullshit walks
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2006-12-04 12:27 [#02012549]
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These threads always remind me of two six year old boys arguing about who's dad is the hardest.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2006-12-04 12:41 [#02012554]
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phobos > joyrecks
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sheffieldbleep
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-04 14:09 [#02012592]
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Well said phobiazero. This forum is very easy on the eye. Those ready made pieces of shit make me want to puke also.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-12-04 14:18 [#02012597]
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thats amonbrunes old avatar!!!!!!!!
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-12-04 14:20 [#02012598]
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Yeah man I was like, whoa, double take.
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sheffieldbleep
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-04 14:27 [#02012605]
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who's amonbrunes? I'm a newbie round here.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-04 14:31 [#02012613]
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Don't worry.
Just forget anything was said.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2006-12-04 14:38 [#02012621]
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"we removed some of the admin-tools due to the infamous Virginpusher-scandal a couple of months ago. imagine a mod on drugs, feeling hatress against his webmaster, and at the same time having the power of deleting
entire threads with a single click! "
as much as i love vp
i mean you should be careful who you put in charge
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2006-12-04 14:42 [#02012626]
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i will consult dr phil next time.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2006-12-04 14:44 [#02012629]
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virginpusher was one of the most appreciated members here... i liked him to... thought it would be safe to give him admin-power...
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