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I'm having the most stressful time ever over a bastard eBay dealer. My item arrived stolen (tampered packaging, no item). He refused to refund me and wanted me to send off for insurance. I found out he wasn't going to refund my postage (which was half of the final price). So I tried to get a full refund through PayPal, and filed a claim, with valid police reference numbers, etc. As soon as I did this, the seller left negative feedback: "Fruadulent PayPal chargeback. Block this bidder!". Crap spelling aside, it is not fraud, as its just a claim and havent got any money off him, along with the more obvious fact that I am telling the fucking truth. Further to this, he sent an Unpaid Item claim to me, on the grounds that by seeking a refund I have no longer paid for the item (wtf/lol?) despite the fact he has still got my money I paid. He is being a complete childish twat despite the fact he is a major ebay dealer. I'm mostly pissed off that he waited for me to leave good feedback before he left negative. What a dirty trick. Can anyone offer any comfort/advice/anything? :( |
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Complain to eBay? |
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What's his ebay name? |
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Well yeah, I will once the PayPal claim goes through. I just wish there was a way to change my feedback, or let people know what a dick he is. I might as well start here: DICK: |
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fight fire with fire. the policing of ebay is a fucking joke. |
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mobile_inc rather |
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You can reply to what he has said in your comments. Not much text but state the problem. I think you may be able to comment on what you've written in his too. E-mail eBay and PayPal. Same company but they don't work as one which kind of defeats the point. Also, copy him into every e-mail that you send regarding the case. |
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Yea, cheers mate. Was well stressed a few hours ago but okay now. I wrote him an email tellin him to stop being so freakin childish and be more professional, and to take his angst out on someone else. He hasn't replied so hopefully he got the message. |
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this guy sounds like a complete jerk, give him hell |
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Plan to mate. Winds me up so much. |
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Dude. Ebay sucks. I only ever buy there if there is absolutely no way I can find the thing elsewhere. And I usually only deal with people that have two or less negative feedbacks, and the other person seems like the jerk. Its kind of scary that this company has all your bank details and everything, and they just arbitrarily decide that one or the other is in the right when there is a dispute. It would be a lot better if they contracted to some other company to act as a mediator for their disputes. I have only had good interactions with people in ebay, but have heard of some bad stories. Anyways, good luck with that. |
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Get his email and sign him up to shitloads of spam. |
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I'm not sure about that site, just looks like somewhere to whine and flame, and slate other users (not unlike XLT then...) rather than constructive advise on how to deal with fraud. : muskieman I bouhgt a honda civic on ebay the seller forgot to mention the windshield was cracked no muffler .heater blower didnt work amoung other things.NEVER BUY A CAR ON EBAY !! paul legros You would be better off searching for brain cells on ebay because anyone that buys a car without making arrangements to view it before bidding is deffo lacking a something upstairs -------------------------------------------------------- Yes, they're both retards. Buying a car on ebay is fine. You just need to refuse to pay up front, or indeed by any means other than cash on collection. Then, if there is anything wrong with it, that is not described in, or contrary to the listing description, walk away. Don't offer to drive the price down to compensate, as they'll give you bad feedback, "bid to buy, not view", etc. Doing it this way is no different to buying second hand through something like autotrader. ... Clint: What happened to you sucked. Sorry to hear about it mate. |
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i fucking hate ebay, always get ripped off. what you buy never seems to actually be what you bidded for |
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yeah, if someone pisses you off, just add them to 300+ spam lists! |
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Hahah. Evil but nice. |
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so how exactly is it the sellers fault? you say it arrived stolen, thats his fault? you say it was insured, so i would follow up on that. last i checked, postal charges are not insurable. sounds like YOURE the one giving this guy a hard time. |
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Hello? Who are you? I'm not saying its his fault. All I did was file a claim to get my money back, to see if PayPal deem it reasonable. I have followed up on the insurance - the seller will get his money back. Read my post for examples of his twattery - filing a claim to eBay that the buyer hasn't paid when he has, and earning him a strike, is NOT professional behaviour and surely a violation of the rules. I haven't got any money so don't tell me I'm giving him a hard time. I'm just asking PayPal if they deem it his responsibility to do so. So go away back to eBay. |
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i had the same issue - reported it to ebay, sent the malicious emails...got my money back...all is good in my hood that guy was a fucker |
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Gay porn if you are blind. |
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you asked for advice..... paypal takes the money when you make the claim. so its really NOT paid for anymore. i would buy from that seller in a heartbeat. what youre doing does sound fraudulent. you sound like youre taking advantage of the system. sounds like shitty luck, but youre trying to screw whoever you can to make up for it. you say its not his fault, but youre making it his fault, and dragging his name through the mud for no reason. i think i will email him this site so he can defend himself. |
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Hey, not to be nosey, but what exactly where they supposed to send you clint? |
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who cares? clint wanted to vent and he did things according to his own ideas. Dont bring people here with the intent of starting shit. Thats not what we need here..... unless it ensues in utter hilarity. This better be hilarious. Top form everyone! Its not everyday we get an outsider here to defend themselves (tycho, comradeF etc etc) |
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penix mod ver. 2.375 |
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Jesus, why? He knows how I feel. Please stop making it your business, lighten up. And PayPal does not take the money as soon as a chargeback is issued, so get it right - PayPal have to come to a decision first. So why are you starting shit with me? If you would like to talk to me about it, email me, don't go behind my back just to flame up the arguement even more, what do you care? God is that why you signed up, to start shit? Listen to virginpusher, he is a moderator. Also, you don't know what you're talking about, you havent seen the emails etc, haven't got a clue about the details, so please don't try and interfere with my business when you know nothing about it. I have deliberately not said this stuff to him because I'm being polite, so why start shit? I have the right to complain about a vendor if I so wish. God, its just a thread venting my feelings, don't make it your business. |
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Please email me. |
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Well they're both in the wrong then aren't they? |
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you posted, "Can anyone offer any comfort/advice/anything?" on a public message board and you get your panties in a bunch when someone offers what you asked for? i have sold on ebay before, and i had paypal complaint. they took and held the money. im not starting shit with you. im just pointing out what youre doing is unethical. i also have a feeling, youre not telling the whole story. you say youre being polite to him, yet you do a chargeback on an item he sent? why not do the insurance? oh thats right, you want to make sure you get the shipping back and whatever else. just stick him with it. what is your ebay name, so i can block you from bidding on my things? |
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also, where does the title of this topic belong in this? i think youre the one harrasing him. |
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Hi, it was a small audio amplifier. Once again ziggy, please don't take it so seriously. I am really not trying to stir shit, I am just very frustrated so am venting to my friends. I am not complaining about his stance on not refunding me (although I think its unfair) - I am complaining because of the unprofessional and uncivil way in which he has communicated with me. |
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so what did you do to make him reply in an unprofessional and uncivil way? |
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normally, if i have a problem, ill put myself in the others persons shoes first. have you done that? |
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Yes they hold the money but don't take it, so whats the problem? If PayPal deem his argument to be valid, he will keep it. " i also have a feeling, youre not telling the whole story." - Please, please expand on that one. I'd love to hear what you are really thinking my motives are. And I am also an eBay seller. If one of my customers did not receive their goods, I would refund them what they paid. You wouldn't, that's your perogative. But yes, you've made your point, and everyone can now see your side of the argument, so please email me. |
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hey, i was just trying to help. i seen the topic, and i do alot on ebay. anytime you have an issue, its going to be biased if both parties are not invloved. so lets recap..... the item was insured correct? was the insurance denied? did you file? did the seller file? besides the shipping, why isnt that good enough? |
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and basically what you want to happen is this: the seller out the item, money, shipping, ebay fees, etc. where do you see any ethics in that? |
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I really don't mind you adding your two cents, I actually appreciate you POV, but when you say you're going to get the seller involved, that's not advice, its interference. The item was insured correctly yes. The claim is going to take up to 4 months to come through. I had to sign a document as the buyer, and send it to the seller in the US. I did this about a week ago. When he receives it, he fills out the other half, and files the claim. He then gets the cheque when it comes through. I have discussed this all with the seller, before it got messy. The shipping is the main thing. The item was £16.99, shipping & insurance £14.98. So I'm losing half, and will not be seeing the remainder for a few more months. Plus the postage to US of the insurance documents. I am genuinely interested what you think my motives are though. Why would I go through all this hassle and bad feedback etc if I was trying to pull a fast one? |
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The P&P charge was about 20 dollars, the postage on the box said $8.50. Minus $1.50 for the packing, he is making a nice little profit off this. He will get the item refunded. I resent most that he will still be making a profit of about $10 when I am losing out. |
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was the P&P stated in the listing before you bid? if it was, you have nothing to complain about. what was the exact item? see, this sounds like more of the story is coming out. starting to sound like more of buyers remorse because of the shipping. the only reason i think the seller should be involved is because of all the shitty suggestions in here. thinking up ways to grass him and spam him. not only is that wrong, but if he reported you to your isp, youd be looking for another one. |
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3280 is this it? &item=5833214441 |
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oops http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3280 &item=5833214441 |
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if thats it, his shipping is much cheaper than other sellers with the same item. |
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I have no trouble in him making a profit off shipping if I get the item. But his buyer has not got his item, but the seller is not willing to refund the considerable profit he has made. Does that not strike you as unethical? I'm not hiding anything, there is no part of the story to 'come out', I'm not trying to convince a jury here. Like I said, if you have some sort of suspicion of my motives, please state them. Well if you report me for the suggestions other people have made, how is that fair. I can't help what people reply. By reporting me you will be getting me into shit for what other people have said. Where have I said anything suggesting I am seriously going to spam him, or anything else? |
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Your link doesn't work - I've stated the charges already though. |
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the only reason why i think you dont want the seller to come here is because you have not told the whole story. why are you so scared of him coming here? |
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Merry Christmas to all!!!!!!! |
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Because I don't want to make a professional dispute a personal one. I'm not scared of him coming here - I don't want the whole thing to turn into a huge flame war. Its really bloody obvious. Please stop making accusations about me hiding stuff. Its not my responsibilty to prove you wrong. So please state what you suspect me of, instead of just hinting. |
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i think youd do anything crooked to get your way. i just tried to help. youll have to deal with yourself and whatever ramifications the seller does to you if you happen to win your bogus chargeback. going after the seller and not the insurance is fraud. by doing that, it also makes me think you actually have the item and are upset with the shipping? something else? or are just a criminal? and merry xmas to you too horse! |
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i've really had no problems with ebay. i purchase records, cd's, shirts, and 13 year old girls. |
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Oh fuck off. Why would I buy the item and then get pissed at the shipping. What are you thinking. Don't accuse me of being a criminal. You haven't got a clue what you're talking about. I don't have to prove my innocence to some person who just has a 'feeling' I'm a criminal. I'm sorry if some scamming buyer got one up on you a while ago, but don't make assumptions that I'm one too. |
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