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uviol
from United States on 2005-10-19 10:15 [#01754466]
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BoC are trendy.. without a doubt. But I don't blame them for it.
And 'maturing'? Mellowing out? How can we tell? We (most of us) have known about Boards of Canada for less than 8 years. Front 242 released records for about ten years, went on hiatus for ten years, and *then* released a softer, more mature album. Steely Dan went on hiatus for 20 years. Tangerine Dream released psychedelic rock and ambient records in the early 70s, and 30 years later they release new age elevator music. That's maturing / mellowing out.
Admittedly, we do have selected bits of their older catalog to refer to, but during those times they didn't have a conscious mass audience they were writing for.
Maybe they are just getting started, and this is the end of their 'nostalgic period'. Don't they have several more albums to submit to Warp alone (due to contract?)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-10-19 10:18 [#01754471]
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haha, may i use that last sentence in my review? :D
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uviol
from United States on 2005-10-19 10:20 [#01754475]
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Ah, sorry qrter, didn't mean to retread your ground. Your post hadn't appeared yet. But you do bring up an interesting subject. I once was on an airplane and they had this feature where you could look through a catalog and select a music playlist for your seat's attached headset. One of them was a 'chillout' or 'new age' playlist with all kinds of contemporary tripe and then right in the middle of it was listed 'Boards of Canada - In a Beautiful Place out in the Country'. Haha, man, I went apeshit at the time. This is when I was still a fanboi and it had just come out.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-10-19 10:24 [#01754480]
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music like a teethless old age pensioner slowly licking your
face, trying to find your mouth.
You're so vile sometimes. All times, really.
I don't know, I don't know if I've got a different copy from other people. I hear the BOC sound here expanded on. I stand by maturing, I don't mean this as them getting old or getting staid, I just mean, like a fine wine, they're getting better, richer (literally probably) more fullsome. They're not the act to come to for cutting edge development or vertiginous changes in style. Everyone knows that, why is it always a criticism levelled at them?
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euphonicfilter
from illadelphia (United States) on 2005-10-19 11:08 [#01754528]
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my question for the people of this board is do you normally like everything an artist puts out?
i would rank johnny cash, miles davis, and a tribe called quest much higher on my top 100 fav artists list
but there is no way in hell everything said artists made was worth only
just how i feel about BOC - mhtrtc was amazing, i was younger, less knowing, i admit
abpitc - great ep, beautiful
geogaddi - lame, 'cept for like 4 tracks - the rest - zzzzzz
campfire - zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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euphonicfilter
from illadelphia (United States) on 2005-10-19 11:09 [#01754529]
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only = owning
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Key
from Bbbbarrow-in-f (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-19 12:17 [#01754581]
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There is an amazing clarity of sound thoughout this record - no 'urbanized' fuzzy reduced sample rates like on MHTRTC. This of course must mean they have gone all soft and Enya on us.
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-19 13:00 [#01754605]
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i like this release more and more with every listen.
I don't see the need for an artist or whatever, to reinvent themselves with every release. BOC have never reinvented themselves (in my opinion anyway), just progressed and added to their sound a little further with each release, not reinvented it.
I love all of their work, part of the reason I love all their work is that you dont have to work at it to "get it."
That why I don't love all of Autechre's work. I dont see that I will ever love Draft 7.30 esp, or Confield. It feels like agony to my ears when I try to listen to either album, hoping for something to "click."
With BOC's releases, every time I listen to any of their albums, I find a new little bit that I'd never heard.
I really like this album. Some won't, but you can't please everyone.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-19 16:47 [#01754816]
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I honestly want to like this, and it is nice to have on in the backround. But NICE is all I can feel with this; I'm not particularly against "new age" music (I enjoy some Vangelis and Mike Oldfield, for example) but this CD is a step too far. I'm trying to be open, but all I'm hearing is lovely production with boring, simplistic chord progressions, similar structures in all the tracks, cheesy fade-outs at the end of all the songs, and all a manner of other insulting things. It's made me bitterly dissapointed.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2005-10-19 16:55 [#01754818]
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exactly man, exactly... I was so excited about this new BoC album, and it's lived up to my expectations... when I was listening to it yesterday, as each song came on I got more and more excited cause it's all so good... I get frustrated and tired with Autechre, cause they're so difficult sometimes... it's just tiresome... BoC make beautiful music, and this new album is fantastic... whatever happened to the whole idea of liking music for the music? Who cares if it's trendy or not? Me personally, I'd love it if these songs were played on the radio... I'd rather hear this stuff then the crap that's on there now...
it's an awful lot to expect of a group for them to totally change their style of music with every release... on this new BoC album I hear songs which sound like BoC, and others which don't, but they all fit on the album and I think that's great...
On a show here in Canada called the New Music they interview this rock band from Sweden called Mando Diao... they're your typical rock band, and their music is nothing different from what's out there, and they admit that... they were talking about this very idea, and they were saying that in Rap music, rappers are friends, they collaberate, and a lot of the music has a similar style and feel to it because of this... but they also were saying that in Rock music and stuff there's a big expectation to be different and stuff... fans of different styles of music seem to place different expectations on their favorite groups and stuff... and electronic music seems to be a style where fans expect the groups to change all the time... but hey, as long as you're not copying the melody note for note, the songs are all different, with different melodies and what not, so who cares? Just enjoy the songs for what they are... The Campire Headphase and Geogaddi or MHTRTC are not exactly the same... all the songs are different, so they're each different pieces of music... just enjoy them (or don't) for what they are...
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2005-10-19 16:56 [#01754819]
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how can a fade out be cheesy?
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2005-10-19 16:57 [#01754821]
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btw, my favorite track is 84 Pontiac Dream... I just think it's lovely! :)
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-19 17:02 [#01754823]
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I don't mind fading out as such, but all the tracks follow very similar structures (drums comming in and out, some changes here and there, not going anywhere in particular but meandering) and then they just fade out. There's no sense of flow either; I'd have loved it to be mixed into one continous theme.
There ARE some standout tracks, but the majority are chill-out without the edge that BoC usually have. Here, there is no "edge"-it's all slow drum loops, some sweet chords and melodies, muck about a bit-fade out-and then finish. Like I said, there are few tracks that take me "somewhere else", but they are few and far between.
I'm not an elitist and I don't mind music having a wider appeal, but BoC have REALLY compromised here imho.
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Rostasky
from United States on 2005-10-19 17:07 [#01754824]
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You all knew it was different from their previous work before you heard it, so why are you comparing this with them? This is different enough to almost have come from another artist, if you had treated it as such, you would be a lot more satisfied with it. Of course, once you have made up your mind, it is too late for that.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-19 17:08 [#01754825]
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If this release did not have the "Boards of Canada" label on it, I'd write it off as another trip-hoppy, relaxing, chill-out album with some amazing moments. The only reason I'm sticking with it is because I'm thinking, "come on, this is BoC, there MUST be something more to this!"
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-10-19 17:10 [#01754827]
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You rate some of the most fuck awful music of all time, then write off BOC for being cheesy. Incredible.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-19 17:26 [#01754837]
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I don't mind a change in direction, but I don't like this one. It sounds like a step back to me.
And dog_belch, I think BoC are anything but cheesy on the whole. Only this particular album veers in that direction, although I find it more dull than cheesy. To be honest, the first few tracks are beautiful, and one or two of the later ones, but on the whole I was dissapointed. The "fuck awful" music I rate is openly bombastic and, while I can see why people would hate it, I'd rather be lost in the world of Blade Runner or Oxygene then this particular album any day.
Besides, I like plenty of music you've rated too. I just can't agree with this album, and what makes it all the more annoying is that I had such high hopes for it.
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Rostasky
from United States on 2005-10-19 18:10 [#01754859]
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The problem is that you are basing your opinion of this album solely on how it compares to the other two, not on its own merit.
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uviol
from United States on 2005-10-20 02:39 [#01754955]
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Wow, there are all sorts of lovely new harmonies and bits of development going on during the last couple of minutes of the last track 'Farewell Fire.' First time around I thought they were just being cute and either doing an Autechrean mega-fadeout or pulling a 'Magic Window,' but there's quite a bit there. It actually plays out til the end of the CD. I had to max out my headphone volume to hear it, but it's nice.
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furoi
from Udine (Eriko Sato's undies) (Italy) on 2005-10-20 02:51 [#01754958]
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i'm going to buy this shit in the weekend with a pair of jeans and a copy of pro evolution soccer for Suxbox
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2005-10-22 14:55 [#01757857]
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well. I love it...it's simple in some ways (meaning that as a musician, it would be easy to come up with those melodies), but the layers...oh my God, the layers. They just fill the album up with such taste of jam-sessions and mystique. It's not 'Music has the right...' and it's not 'Geogaddi', but it's Board Of Canada...that's fo sure
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nacmat
on 2005-10-22 16:25 [#01757926]
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I like the album... but somehow it sounds generic... not exclusive boc sounds
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optimus prime
on 2005-10-22 16:34 [#01757932]
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2005 is the most disappointing year for new music ever. this is some pretty nice relaxing music, though. might be good for background music. nothing on it is at all memorable, which is about the exact opposite of geogaddi. ah well.
boc aren't guitarists. i miss their crunchy beats. i miss the funny voice samples. campfire headphase sounds like a really long ep and nothing more.
but a pretty nice relaxing ep. ah well.
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nacmat
on 2005-10-22 16:44 [#01757942]
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2005 dissapointing?
cautella rossz meathole analords!! specially 1,2,5,7,10 and 11 untilted!!!!
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-10-22 16:50 [#01757951]
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Totally agree!
I listened to Untlited several times anyway, I can say I love it!
Enjoyed rossz and meathole too. I think I need to listen to cautella again...
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optimus prime
on 2005-10-22 17:14 [#01757955]
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i don't like that venetian snares dude, but i agree that the analords pretty much save the year all by themselves.
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Combo
from Sex on 2005-10-25 11:53 [#01760807]
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Listening to TCH for the second time today and I must say i am a bit disappointed : this is nice chill out music but nothing really strong imo; nevertheless i didn't like geogaddi at the first listenings so I really really hope i'll change my mind and be able to say "IMO BoC is baaaaaaack !!!"
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Combo
from Sex on 2005-10-25 11:54 [#01760809]
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replace IMO by ZOMG in the last sentence
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Rostasky
from United States on 2005-10-25 11:56 [#01760817]
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JUST LISTEN TO THE FUCKING MUSIC DAMMIT!
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corrupted-girl
on 2005-10-25 11:57 [#01760818]
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i really like this album.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-10-25 15:22 [#01761027]
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You are exactly right there. The layers, it's as if you can set your focus on one level, but behind it there's another, and then another, and then another... the devil is in the details, fo' sure.
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Archrival
on 2005-10-25 16:15 [#01761125]
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very well said Funkmaster I totally agree with u and yes my favourite track is 84 Pontiac Dreams I think but I like them all.
and Dog_Belch is totally on point!
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-25 17:07 [#01761193]
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I must say, it has grown on me, and the first 6 tracks (and the 9th) are really uplifting and wonderful.
It's still not "amazing" to me, but it's good and great music to listen to in the car in the right setting. Pretty magical at this time of year especially.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2005-10-25 18:36 [#01761241]
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there's a track where you can hear a little sound twirling around way off to the right, then like 8 measures later it fades in and spins accross the center then leaves, stage left. man i love that shit.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-11-02 07:45 [#01767657]
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what a stand out 'cromakey dreamcoat' song is. it's one of my fav boc songs, plenty of layers, plenty going on but the rest of it is completly boring. no matter how much i try i just keep skipping tracks. if there were another two songs like chromakey dreamcoat and i would be happy with it.
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Combo
from Sex on 2005-11-13 10:13 [#01776981]
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Now that Tolstoyed has change his mind, it's my turn : imo TCH isn't only a good BOC album, it's also their best !! <3
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core
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-13 12:57 [#01777070]
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that's interesting tolstoyed. i think 'chromakey dreamcoat' is the one dud on the album. it's just average. dull.
the rest of it is very acidy, (in the real sense, not the tb303 sense) and even beautiful in places.
but that one track you mentioned, it's a bit crap in my opinion.
no accounting for taste, is there?
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nacmat
on 2005-11-13 17:37 [#01777259]
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not listening to this much now
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2005-11-13 19:17 [#01777277]
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I still think it's awesome.
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KainiIndustries
from over the roof floats billy on 2005-11-13 19:20 [#01777278]
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not sick of it yet
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-11-13 20:12 [#01777296]
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core, actually Chromakey Dreamcoat is the only track worth hearing on there. The rest are boring.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-11-13 20:41 [#01777297]
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i still haven't heard it and it will be a very long time before i do. just thought you'd all like to know.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2005-11-13 20:50 [#01777298]
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Better each time I listen. Still doesn't feel right as their latest release though.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-11-14 02:33 [#01777324]
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that was to be expected :-)
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Archrival
on 2005-11-14 03:50 [#01777349]
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I was very excited today as the postman rang the doorbell and i collected a package with my name on it. I opened it up and i found just what i had expected, a new album from the mysterious scottish duo.
This is the first album for three and a half years. Venetian snares they are not (he releases at least three albums a year) To say this album has been hotly anticipated would be an understatement. With the elctronic music scene laying in wait. So here is my little review.
The album starts in the obligitory boards of canada fashion. A short spangly intro and leads into the fervant guitar picking intro of chromakey dreamcoat which lead way to a beat which takes few seconds to meld coherently. The track rattles along with etheral atmospheres and nicely syncopated rhythms until, without warning it rapidly slows down and is replaced with a heavily treated and giddy progression.
The intro to satellite anthem icuarus is just some waves lapping gently across a beach. A dusty and slow guitar riff floats gently into the mix. We then float off into some reminicence. A summers day drifts past and the sun quickly sets just as quickly as it rose.
Peacock tail is actually a little too non descript of a song in my eyes. The elements are all there but somehow they don't connect. It is very pleasant but nothing really grabs me.
Now after the dip i was hoping for something that really grabbed me. I was not disapointed. Dayvan cowboy has just some very simple but layered guitar strumming with an addition of some tamborine for added hippy factor. Just when you think that something needs to happen a staccato bass throb fades in with a heavily processed vocal drone and turns into something far more urgent. The chords change some filtered percussion enters the scene. We are definately away when the drums and violin arrangement enters the without warning... A heavily processed and chopped drum beat crashes and everything becomes an amazing wall of noise. All just held in place when it should be falling apart. This tra
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Archrival
on 2005-11-14 03:52 [#01777350]
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All just held in place when it should be falling apart. This track is a true boards classic!
After a moment of clarity we come to '84 pontiac dream. This in alot of ways is standard fare for boards but as always stay on the right side of derivative. A simple beat and amazing melodical tidbits float through the mix. You become slightly drawn in by the gentle traffic sounds and car horns mixed into the background. To clinch it all off the outro gives us some crackling electric guitar work, which interlinked melodically and is really fucking beautiful. The outro alone makes this track a favorite.
Another strange interlude follows, we are then into oscar see throgh red eye. This is again another great track. there is so much to grab hold of i it's duration. The drums and bass are pitched perfectly together as a backbone on which all the myriad melodic elements weave themselves, into a beautiful tapestry of sound. Yet again another grainy breath of air is gained from another interlude...
Hey saturday sun (the title i think may be a reference to Nick Drake) starts off with some high tones setting up a slightly skewed uplifting tone. We then get treated to some more lovely guitar picking. This progresses into some very simple drums before the twisted atmospherics and synths reveal something slightly sinister. The real killer is when we return to the guitar riff the bassline is truly suerb and fits like a glove. With echoing percussion blocks and solitary glockenspiel notes providing the underlying magic. Another magical moment, this track really sets the nostalgia switch into overdrive. Magical!!!
Constants are changing is and interlude but it is special because it is brilliant. really lovely guitar and bass melodies intertwined with a synth sounding rather flute like riffing away away over the top.
The opening tones of slow this bird down really take the mood down a notch or too. This is a sad piece but i find that it is truly majestic. The layers keep on building up. This is an intense track. It
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Archrival
on 2005-11-14 03:53 [#01777351]
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It echoed around in my subconcious for a long time.
Tears from the compund eye starts off with languid piano lines to the fore. This again is a simply beautiful track that like hey saturday sun brought the past flooding back to me. More grainy synth work joins in on this stroll down memory lane and as the song fades out, i felt very refreshed.
For the final track we have farewell fire, which i felt was over long for what it is. Although it is a truly lovely, a mututating melody that seems to ply out everything that went before it. the only thing that bothers me about it is the five and a half minute fade out that you can't hear anything of the track in because it's so quiet.
So all in all, i am very happy with the boards work. This is an amazingly beautiful record. If you are looking for something to excite you without being all hectic the this is perfect fare. If you have heard aboutthese guys but don't know where to start i saw here is as good a place as any.
This gets top marks from me!
Excellent review from Skink
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-11-14 03:54 [#01777352]
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i really like reviews with detaild song descriptions..it's such an interesting read..
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-11-14 04:13 [#01777355]
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i love this album
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nacmat
on 2005-11-14 04:16 [#01777358]
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hahahaha
wait... why did I laugh?
hahahahahah
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