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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-12-02 17:23 [#01413603]
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Matvey
from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2004-12-03 05:59 [#01414034]
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This thread is good PR fo Tycho. I never knew about such music trademark, before I saw this thread. Now I do know that. Now I have heard music from Tychos site, looked through his photos, logos, print works and so on.
His music is nice. Well, if it is to some extent like Boards of Canada - this is no problem, it's good, because BoC don't release any new music. So these fine folks, who express themselves in such music style - they are doing nice job.
Boards of Canada seem to have mega-great influence on US. Even here in Ukraine I am aware of three trademarks who are said to be BoC-like. All three are located on US territory. Tendence (trend)?
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xf
from Australia on 2004-12-03 06:13 [#01414047]
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I haven't got a problem with somebody being BoC-like; it would be nice though if said artist admitted to it, and didn't try to hide this fact. I'm still a little pissed with things such as the forum posts where somebody asked tycho where he got his inspiration from, and BoC wasn't even mentioned; ad nauseam.
And tycho's easily the closest I've heard to BoC; that's not nessecarily a bad thing either - like I said in my original posts, 10/10 for replicating the sound. I've never heard of Kelpe before, but from the samples on their website, I can hear that they've been BoC influenced but they've definitely got their own style.
I'd probably believe tycho if he said he didn't intend for the album to come out sounding very much the same, but the end result is that it does. I should have a listen to some of his earlier albums; maybe (hopefully) there's more of a unique style.
I've spent too much fucking time rattling on about this topic, anyway.
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xf
from Australia on 2004-12-03 06:17 [#01414055]
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I'd probably believe tycho if he said he didn't intend for
the album to come out sounding very much the same, but the
Actually, on listening to the first song on the album (sunrise projector), I take this back; jesus it's fucking modelled completely from BoC's structure, sample types, effects, melodies, everything.
Either way, I am enjoying the album, so whatever.
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2004-12-03 06:24 [#01414063]
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Clone or not clone, whatever Tycho is guilty of, he sure as hell got a lot of promotion from this thread, and he seems to have sold a few cd's off it.
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xf
from Australia on 2004-12-03 06:29 [#01414067]
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see, i'd almost argue being involved heavily with marketing that he'd probably be even /more/ famous and successful if he never mentioned boc and people thought he really did have a unique sound and feel.
maybe that's what's bothering me. shrug. i hope he does the right thing, though; he's talented, that's for sure. i'd just love to see that talent break the envelope instead of purely 'cloning'.
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optimus prime
on 2004-12-03 06:33 [#01414071]
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at least people are talking about music again.
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2004-12-03 06:34 [#01414073]
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Yeah, I see what you mean, but his sound is way to similar for his 'influence' to be kept a secret. He has talent, atleast for recreating, but I hope for his sake that he draws some wisdom from this incident and spend some time trying to find a unique style.
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Matvey
from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2004-12-03 06:37 [#01414081]
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i see, things are serious.
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xf
from Australia on 2004-12-03 06:43 [#01414085]
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you bet.
nah, i don't really care all that much to be honest. i'll forget all about this and only be reminded agan when i see the thread.
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Matvey
from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2004-12-03 06:46 [#01414090]
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recommend me BoC-like musicians from outside US, please.
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Matvey
from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2004-12-03 06:49 [#01414095]
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i don't care either.. the music is nice anyway.
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xf
from Australia on 2004-12-03 07:22 [#01414146]
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wow, kelpe's not bad actually; i'm already hooked.
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Fredd-E
from Belgium on 2004-12-04 07:15 [#01415248]
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So track 8 from Kelpe, grappling hook, didn't miss its effect at all? :D
Kelpe did a real good job with that cd.
Word up.
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xf
from Australia on 2004-12-04 08:12 [#01415268]
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i'm hooked on that track, and "nat's twirly mug". i particulary like the tracks with samples suggesting that life is rather pointless.
cheers, tycho - this is a great album, thanks for the suggestion.
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2008-08-16 05:52 [#02229783]
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classic thread bump.
the saddest part of all is, tycho has probably made more money from this sound than boc themselves, simply because he tours and plays live a lot. he even has close a 1,000,000 listens on last.fm - just goes to show how desperate some people are for a fill in the musical void between boc albums.
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cx
from Norway on 2008-08-16 08:06 [#02229794]
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hahaha
believe it or not this was news to me.. im downloading that sunrise projector album now, gotta get somma this.
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cx
from Norway on 2008-08-16 08:18 [#02229796]
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it's really bad.
even if it wasn't plagiarizing boc, it's really bad.. can clearly hear the boc synths, but lacks all the soul of boc, all the mood.
boc grew up with this stuff, they molded and created the sound themselves, it came from them, it's their sound.. why would anyone want to create cheap ripoff synths that sound alike them..
either way, i feel this sunrise projector album is a lot more shallow than boc, it doesnt feel 'real' like boc does, no mystery either..
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sheffieldbleep
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2008-08-16 08:41 [#02229800]
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I'd say ochre is far worse than Tycho for blatantly ripping another artist off.
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cx
from Norway on 2008-08-16 09:20 [#02229805]
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on that latest ep of his its plaid written all over it.. i dunno about everything else.. but he did in fact collab with plaid i think
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2008-08-16 14:17 [#02229824]
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Cilocub
another BoC soundalike, i actually quite liked this stuff and decided i'd support the artist, and so bought the cd. of course it's available for free download
give it a try if you like :)
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2008-08-17 01:42 [#02229855]
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I bought the Cilocub CD as well, some great stuff on it.
More free BoC influenced acts: Flutterspot - Suitable for a Desire to Share Redpoint - Protect and Serve (Side a / Side b)
Hills West - Step into the Outside Sarin Sunday - The Lonely Hike Saturday Index - Partly Cloudy
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csl
on 2008-08-17 03:55 [#02229859]
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How's that? I've read this a few times from you; you seem to have it in for me.
Is this still the 'Oh, he used 'chre' on the end of his name so he must be an autechre clone' thing, that I read from you? 'Ochre' is a real word, and in my case comes from from 'Oaker' Avenue, where I grew up. No link with any artist there. I chose the colour spelling as I preferred the way it looked in print.
I'm fed up with reading your defamatory remarks about me.
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sheffieldbleep
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2008-08-17 05:04 [#02229861]
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I actually like some of your music, have seen you play live and bought a CD by yourself. Have I said you're music is shit?
Unfortunately for me the name 'ochre' suggests you want to be like another artist, sorry if that upsets you.
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2008-08-17 06:12 [#02229866]
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Comparing Ochre to Tycho is rediculous. Tycho is BOC with downs syndrome. Although Ochre has a distinct IDM-sound, I can't really hear what artist he is ripping off. Ochre makes excellent melodies, and I'm listening to A Midsummer Nice Dream over and over again. I downloaded sunrise projector and listened to it again because Impakt recommended it, and it's still shit. I would rather be tied to a chair and tortured with Drunken Mastah B-sides and rarities. I kid you not!
"Unfortunately for me the name 'ochre' suggests you want to be like another artist, sorry if that upsets you."
Ooooh. Come ooon!
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csl
on 2008-08-17 06:13 [#02229867]
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I just don't understand why, after an explanation why I chose the name, you still wouldn't be able to look past the similarity of five letters.
It just seems like a lot of effort to repeatedly slate me in such a way, that I wonder if I've offended you in the past somehow (if so then it was unintentional, and I apologise).
Perhaps a name change is in order anyway; I never intended to keep this name (much less be writing music) for so long.
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cx
from Norway on 2008-08-17 06:21 [#02229868]
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Can you reveal what artist you mean?
I really hope you don't mean Autechre cause I'm pretty sure the word Ochre was around way before them..
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cx
from Norway on 2008-08-17 06:23 [#02229869]
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Btw ochre hi! Your music has given me a lot of good moments thanks :)
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2008-08-17 06:49 [#02229874]
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i gave it a try but it annoys me to no end whenever someone uses the 'wobbly pitch shift trick' throughout the entire track, and not in a very subtle way either.
i'm on track 3 now and this must be the most shameless Campfire Headphase duplicate ever. cringeworthy.
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big
from lsg on 2008-08-17 07:11 [#02229878]
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it's a cool name
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2008-08-17 07:48 [#02229880]
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i must admit, i never once connected the name ochre to autechre. the music doesn't sound anything alike either.
look at boards of canada. they named themselves after the film boards of canada and outright mimic the sound from those documentaries. which is the more shameless? ;)
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2008-08-17 08:16 [#02229883]
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I never connected autechre to ochre either. it doesn't even remotly sound the same, music wise.
i like ochre.
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sheffieldbleep
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2008-08-17 10:35 [#02229894]
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I like Tycho
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2008-08-18 01:19 [#02230014]
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I'm just saying: you can't like BOC and at the same time NOT like Tycho, it's too close sounding. I get that you don't want to like it, it feels cheap yadda yadda.
But if you were blind and someone told you they put on the newest BOC album, but it was in fact Tycho; you would think it was BOC and you would probably like it.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2008-08-18 01:22 [#02230016]
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To conclude with a cheesy line: Listen with your heart, not your brain.
*kills himself*
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2008-08-18 02:50 [#02230019]
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hi
send me all the music you've made recently.
k bye Thx
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SlipDrinkMats
from Thanks (Bhutan) on 2008-12-07 15:17 [#02257642]
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I fucking hate ochre.
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