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           xf
             from Australia on 2004-11-29 07:37 [#01409711]
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heh, i seem to listen to a lot of music that's used as  'background music'; i'm a huge fan of trip hop and it used  to be played pretty heavily in uppity clothing shops and  such.  these days, it's usually some bland form of cheesy  techno.
 
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           Atli
             from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2004-11-29 07:42 [#01409715]
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i've had this record for some time now and one of his ep's  as well, can't remember the name, and it's ok i guess but,  shit...you could instantly see that he was more than "boc  influenced", his track names and all, but when i heard how  many "children laughing samples" and other samples with talk  he uses i had enough.
 
  not that he's bad or anything but jesus christ, enough is  enough. 
 
  
         
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           big
             from lsg on 2004-11-29 07:53 [#01409721]
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           plaster
             from splitska 10 on 2004-11-29 08:03 [#01409724]
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           Zephyr Twin
             from ΔΔΔ on 2004-11-29 08:06 [#01409726]
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           acid_polic3
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i am ilove303zn909z        . i find it insane that people on  the board find it so groundbreaking. "new favourite artist"  haha.  
 
  
         
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           acid_polic3
             from london (United Kingdom) on 2004-11-29 10:00 [#01409819]
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           JAroen
             from the pineal gland on 2004-11-29 10:07 [#01409835]
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oh just look at that messageboard. you should look for a 3  letter abbreviation, starting with a D, ending on an M.
 
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           JAroen
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           denniscpearce
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           denniscpearce
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i would all most be able to take it if it wernt for the  track names, i agree with some people who mention it: i  almost wouldnt be surprised if it was a bit of a joke. 
 
  
         
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           plaidzebra
             from so long, xlt on 2004-11-29 16:35 [#01410097]
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  listening to the samples, some tracks borrow from boc, some  don't.
 
  what's odd is how much energy people will spend griping that  this guy sounds too much like boc.  about how "uncreative"  he is because of stylistic similarities.  then i imagine  they leave and put on a d&b record. 
 
  you'd think that boc had trademarked samples from nature  films, sky and countryside photos and rainbows.
 
  people just love that brand name "boards of canada" too  much...
 
 
 
  
         
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           plaster
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           bryce_berny
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Please keep in mind that BOC are actually just renditions of  old 1970s national film board of canada music.  If any of  you have ever heard any of it, you'll know what I mean.
 
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           X-tomatic
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Tbh I think the name Boards of Canada sucks donkeyballs,  it's probably just that it's such a shamelessly obvious copy  on so many levels what's offending people.
   It's like a guy creating some name, "helium twinky" or  whatever with on the album cover a self-portrait wearing an  all-too-familiar aphex grin and the music bearing a  bit too much resemblance to the twin's trademark  riffs, sound and melodies and using pisstake titles for  tracknames.
   No biggie on being a bit influenced by your favourite  artists 'n stuff 'cos all artists have their examples, but  this way it's like trying to reinvent the wheel. Like  selling a fake Rolex and claiming you weren't quite aware of  the existence of the original. "Oh yeah I heard this  rumour..."
   That said, I don't understand this guy anyway, I mean from  looking at his website, artwork and his music it seems  obvious that he is quite talented enough to do something  original but yet he's wasting it by rehashing everything.
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i think the whole rip off argument is exaggerated.  i really  don't think the guy's tunes are that bad or unoriginal to  the point of unlistenability.  believe me, i've heard a lot  of amateur electronic music and this guy's (imho) tunes are  decent (based on the samples).  
 
  i wouldn't argue with anyone's taste,  but the reasons given  here for disliking this music seem hollow...  
 
 
 
  
         
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           denniscpearce
             from Canada on 2004-11-29 19:14 [#01410259]
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exactly x-tomatic, regardless of what you think of BOCs stuff anyways, you cant  really ignore the wierd fact that this album (i dont know  about his other stuff) could almost exactly, stylisticly be  a boc album, and we KNOW he didnt arive at this  state/aesthetic/feel independently.
 
  9. Who or what have been some of your greatest influences,  both musically and visually?
 
  In music I am influenced greatly by Boards of Canada. I  discovered their music through a friend and the first time I  heard it, I realized there was so much more to be done with  music, so many directions you could go in that weren't being  represented in mainstream electronic music. Their work  opened my eyes to a lot of new possibilities. 
 
  his choice of titles is wierd, its like he looked at BOCs  general themes and came up with ones taht fit it exactly.   using nature, and words of a certain feel. im not clever  enough to come up with terms which describe the aesthetic  well enough, but its obvious.  i know that he maybe didnt  set out to replicate them. it is very likely that he just  got so immersed in them that his own aesthetic has conformed  fully and he is unable to create anything that meanders very  far from it.  the music is, for the most part very nice, and  it is clear that he has much talent.  i just think, like im  sure lots of people, that he could be doing more innovative  work.  you can say what you want about boc, that "they just  copied nfb film soundtracks" (i know, im in canada) but it  is clear that they are very innovative, i feel they have  mapped out a lot of pretty specific electronic music  territory. i dont know much though, but if you disagree,  give me some tips on electronic music that it seems that boc  are derivations from, and i dont mean influenced, but where  they have mostly just recreated rather then innovated.
  please also dont tell me that boc suck, that is a matter of  opinion, i know some people dont like them.
  also obviously this guy isnt the only person heavily  influenced by them, other people have 
 
  
         
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           denniscpearce
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created things that are clearly influenced by them, someone  mentioned freescha, i agree that there is clear influence,  but i like freescha a lot, i think (and maybe this is a  terrible description) that soem freescha is a lot like  boc+air.
  but with this album its more then high influnce, as i said  in my first or second post in this thread, if it wasnt for  the track names i probably wouldnt think it so wierd. 
  it would be funny if somebody actually made an album with  the sole purpose of as closely replicating a new boc album  they can, and then pretend to have never heard of them, and  say that they dont really see the similarities.
  maybe we should have a contest to come up with the most  stylisticly likely boc album cover and tracklist. maybe its  sad that we think we could create something that will be  similar to the next boc album, i would like it if the next  reelase is something very unlike anything we might be  expecting.
  anyways, and for the guy who said he thinks its wierd that  people spend so much energy talking baout this, i dont think  its wierd.... its just like what x-tomatic said above.
  and also there are some parts of the album that dont sound  exactly like boc, its true...
  and also tycho or scott or whoever, if you do read this, im  not being mean, i just think, like the others above, that  you could be doing something much more interesting and  forward thinking, you obviously have the ability, and i like  your print and design work too, and even you must cringe  when you see people on your forum saying things like  I  absolutely LOVE your music... it's incredibly original and  unique,  i mean the first part is fine, good for you,  but the second part, i mean would you ever tell them "yeah i  like my stuff, but why dont you take a listen to some of my  own favorite music, boards of canada" and if not would you  agree with them that you are original and unique? and if not  would you just accept the compliment and keep quiet. (cont) 
 
  
         
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           denniscpearce
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and also if this kind of work is just a way to create stuff  that people will like and sort of playing into a style that  is already established,  i guess i cant really blame you for  that, it seems like you are doing well in terms of what  people are talking about you, but i dont know if i would  ever want to do such a thing.
 
 
 
  
         
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           denniscpearce
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actually wtf, my statement up there   you can say what you want about boc, that "they just copied nfb film soundtracks" (i know, im in canada)   which was supposed to be in reference to this guys :  Please keep in mind that BOC are actually just  renditions of
  old 1970s national film board of canada music. If any of you have ever heard any of it, you'll know what I mean.  
  whatever man, i meant to say that i know stylisticly they  have been influenced by that era and style of thing, and i  was saying that i know because i have seen/heard lots of  them, but there is no way that they are "renditions" of  it... do you know what something being a "rendition" of  something else means? have you ever listened to boc? 
 
  
         
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           mappatazee
             from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-11-29 19:42 [#01410281]
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           qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-29 21:01 [#01410325]
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           plaster
             from splitska 10 on 2004-11-29 21:07 [#01410328]
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A+ student!
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           Vestron
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           JAroen
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           FlyAgaric
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           nuc
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           JAroen
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           plaster
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           plaster
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           Ophecks
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I like his music. Definitely owes a lot to BOC, but I'm sure  he realizes that and has never claimed to invent this kind  of sound. And it is indeed an appealing sound. BOC didn't  arrive at THEIR particular sound totally ''independently''  either, very few people do. Surely they did more to bring it  forward than ''Tycho'' has, but... duh.
 
  It's a decent album that I can enjoy, but it's not some  revelation... it sounds too much like BOC to give it too  much credit. But I doubt that's what he wants. I don't think  this is too big a deal. I've heard plenty of other music  from big names and not so big names that sound exactly like  something else that came before it, but they won't get  dissed because it's their friends reviewing it, or they  didn't sound like a really sacred IDM cow. Or they didn't  have such a nice webpage. It's still good music, sometimes  great. Tycho just doesn't strike me as any more worthy of  criticism. 
 
  
         
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           fleetmouse
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Damn you Ophecks, I was about to post that I like this stuff  and now it will look like I'm trying to be cool like you.  >:-(
 
  I downloaded the sunrise projector album a while ago from  Emusic and thought it was good, then forgot about it.  Because of this thread I went and listened to it again.  
 
  
         
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           JAroen
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           pyro5hit9rind
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           big
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im quite shpongled at the mo, heres a poem i wrote that im  going to turn into a screamo song tmrw
 
  Do you remeber when we ran right out of a pae from the necronomicon
  plastered faces find it easier to smile when you give the  touch which can kill ones soul as easy as genocide (?)
 
  as the devil speaks of such sorrow the grin i see evil lurks  like nothing before it crimson eyes, sharp dagger lips (?)
 
  Can you close your self around me (haha yes) enveloped in  complete beauty before the last of my heamaglobin (? what  the fuck) pumps out of my heart right into the abyss that is  yours
 
  compared to the claws of your anger people cant stare  underground seems too green, forests can grow around you
 
  As i fade you turn gems giltter standing afar wings spread,  contraction.
 
  then i drew a little goblin, and let my hand spaz out and it  made lots of cool sketchy patters. whwhwowowowowowoooooooooo 
 
  
         
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           Vestron
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Dear Phobiazero, I am truly utterly sorry, I will never have multiple  accounts again. I am ashamed of myself for registering to  Tycho's message board, multiple accounts = multiple shame.  Please forgive me. I may not have many points, 
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           horsefactory
             from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-11-30 17:32 [#01411225]
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           qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-30 17:34 [#01411229]
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shup up
 
  
         
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           Drunken Mastah
             from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-11-30 17:37 [#01411233]
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the button "end" has ceased functioning...
 
  
         
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           qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-30 17:39 [#01411236]
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           dog_belch
             from Netherlands, The on 2004-11-30 17:47 [#01411242]
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           big
             from lsg on 2004-11-30 17:49 [#01411244]
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shup ip
 
  
         
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           Taxidermist
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Anybody ever listen to Structured Programming? Or Ten and  Tracer? They is good. 
 
  
         
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           dog_belch
             from Netherlands, The on 2004-11-30 17:52 [#01411247]
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Shut up.
 
  
         
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           horsefactory
             from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-11-30 17:52 [#01411249]
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As i fade you turn gems giltter standing afar wings spread, contraction.
 
  
         
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           stilaktive
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           qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-30 18:02 [#01411255]
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           Drunken Mastah
             from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-11-30 18:07 [#01411257]
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