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xf
from Australia on 2004-11-29 07:37 [#01409711]
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heh, i seem to listen to a lot of music that's used as 'background music'; i'm a huge fan of trip hop and it used to be played pretty heavily in uppity clothing shops and such. these days, it's usually some bland form of cheesy techno.
(why the fuck do i always post in doubles?)
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Atli
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2004-11-29 07:42 [#01409715]
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i've had this record for some time now and one of his ep's as well, can't remember the name, and it's ok i guess but, shit...you could instantly see that he was more than "boc influenced", his track names and all, but when i heard how many "children laughing samples" and other samples with talk he uses i had enough.
not that he's bad or anything but jesus christ, enough is enough.
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big
from lsg on 2004-11-29 07:53 [#01409721]
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i dont like boc but i liked this
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2004-11-29 08:03 [#01409724]
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god have mercy on your soul, sir!
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-11-29 08:06 [#01409726]
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that is well fuckin said, man.
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acid_polic3
from london (United Kingdom) on 2004-11-29 09:59 [#01409817]
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i am ilove303zn909z . i find it insane that people on the board find it so groundbreaking. "new favourite artist" haha.
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acid_polic3
from london (United Kingdom) on 2004-11-29 10:00 [#01409819]
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*his board i might add
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-11-29 10:07 [#01409835]
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oh just look at that messageboard. you should look for a 3 letter abbreviation, starting with a D, ending on an M.
i wonder on how many other forums monoid whores himself.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-11-29 10:15 [#01409842]
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also, whos motha fucka on there?
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denniscpearce
from Canada on 2004-11-29 15:51 [#01410064]
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fuck thats bad..... grrrrr especially the very ignorant lovers of him
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denniscpearce
from Canada on 2004-11-29 15:54 [#01410065]
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i would all most be able to take it if it wernt for the track names, i agree with some people who mention it: i almost wouldnt be surprised if it was a bit of a joke.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2004-11-29 16:35 [#01410097]
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listening to the samples, some tracks borrow from boc, some don't.
what's odd is how much energy people will spend griping that this guy sounds too much like boc. about how "uncreative" he is because of stylistic similarities. then i imagine they leave and put on a d&b record.
you'd think that boc had trademarked samples from nature films, sky and countryside photos and rainbows.
people just love that brand name "boards of canada" too much...
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2004-11-29 17:36 [#01410150]
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i really like the atmosphere in your avatar
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bryce_berny
from chronno (Canada) on 2004-11-29 18:05 [#01410190]
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Please keep in mind that BOC are actually just renditions of old 1970s national film board of canada music. If any of you have ever heard any of it, you'll know what I mean.
This is good music on this site.
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2004-11-29 18:18 [#01410202]
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Tbh I think the name Boards of Canada sucks donkeyballs, it's probably just that it's such a shamelessly obvious copy on so many levels what's offending people.
It's like a guy creating some name, "helium twinky" or whatever with on the album cover a self-portrait wearing an all-too-familiar aphex grin and the music bearing a bit too much resemblance to the twin's trademark riffs, sound and melodies and using pisstake titles for tracknames.
No biggie on being a bit influenced by your favourite artists 'n stuff 'cos all artists have their examples, but this way it's like trying to reinvent the wheel. Like selling a fake Rolex and claiming you weren't quite aware of the existence of the original. "Oh yeah I heard this rumour..."
That said, I don't understand this guy anyway, I mean from looking at his website, artwork and his music it seems obvious that he is quite talented enough to do something original but yet he's wasting it by rehashing everything.
But not that I care much....
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2004-11-29 18:29 [#01410207]
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i think the whole rip off argument is exaggerated. i really don't think the guy's tunes are that bad or unoriginal to the point of unlistenability. believe me, i've heard a lot of amateur electronic music and this guy's (imho) tunes are decent (based on the samples).
i wouldn't argue with anyone's taste, but the reasons given here for disliking this music seem hollow...
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denniscpearce
from Canada on 2004-11-29 19:14 [#01410259]
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exactly x-tomatic, regardless of what you think of BOCs stuff anyways, you cant really ignore the wierd fact that this album (i dont know about his other stuff) could almost exactly, stylisticly be a boc album, and we KNOW he didnt arive at this state/aesthetic/feel independently.
9. Who or what have been some of your greatest influences, both musically and visually?
In music I am influenced greatly by Boards of Canada. I discovered their music through a friend and the first time I heard it, I realized there was so much more to be done with music, so many directions you could go in that weren't being represented in mainstream electronic music. Their work opened my eyes to a lot of new possibilities.
his choice of titles is wierd, its like he looked at BOCs general themes and came up with ones taht fit it exactly. using nature, and words of a certain feel. im not clever enough to come up with terms which describe the aesthetic well enough, but its obvious. i know that he maybe didnt set out to replicate them. it is very likely that he just got so immersed in them that his own aesthetic has conformed fully and he is unable to create anything that meanders very far from it. the music is, for the most part very nice, and it is clear that he has much talent. i just think, like im sure lots of people, that he could be doing more innovative work. you can say what you want about boc, that "they just copied nfb film soundtracks" (i know, im in canada) but it is clear that they are very innovative, i feel they have mapped out a lot of pretty specific electronic music territory. i dont know much though, but if you disagree, give me some tips on electronic music that it seems that boc are derivations from, and i dont mean influenced, but where they have mostly just recreated rather then innovated.
please also dont tell me that boc suck, that is a matter of opinion, i know some people dont like them.
also obviously this guy isnt the only person heavily influenced by them, other people have
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denniscpearce
from Canada on 2004-11-29 19:23 [#01410261]
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created things that are clearly influenced by them, someone mentioned freescha, i agree that there is clear influence, but i like freescha a lot, i think (and maybe this is a terrible description) that soem freescha is a lot like boc+air.
but with this album its more then high influnce, as i said in my first or second post in this thread, if it wasnt for the track names i probably wouldnt think it so wierd.
it would be funny if somebody actually made an album with the sole purpose of as closely replicating a new boc album they can, and then pretend to have never heard of them, and say that they dont really see the similarities.
maybe we should have a contest to come up with the most stylisticly likely boc album cover and tracklist. maybe its sad that we think we could create something that will be similar to the next boc album, i would like it if the next reelase is something very unlike anything we might be expecting.
anyways, and for the guy who said he thinks its wierd that people spend so much energy talking baout this, i dont think its wierd.... its just like what x-tomatic said above.
and also there are some parts of the album that dont sound exactly like boc, its true...
and also tycho or scott or whoever, if you do read this, im not being mean, i just think, like the others above, that you could be doing something much more interesting and forward thinking, you obviously have the ability, and i like your print and design work too, and even you must cringe when you see people on your forum saying things like I absolutely LOVE your music... it's incredibly original and unique, i mean the first part is fine, good for you, but the second part, i mean would you ever tell them "yeah i like my stuff, but why dont you take a listen to some of my own favorite music, boards of canada" and if not would you agree with them that you are original and unique? and if not would you just accept the compliment and keep quiet. (cont)
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denniscpearce
from Canada on 2004-11-29 19:24 [#01410263]
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and also if this kind of work is just a way to create stuff that people will like and sort of playing into a style that is already established, i guess i cant really blame you for that, it seems like you are doing well in terms of what people are talking about you, but i dont know if i would ever want to do such a thing.
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denniscpearce
from Canada on 2004-11-29 19:27 [#01410267]
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actually wtf, my statement up there you can say what you want about boc, that "they just copied nfb film soundtracks" (i know, im in canada) which was supposed to be in reference to this guys : Please keep in mind that BOC are actually just renditions of
old 1970s national film board of canada music. If any of you have ever heard any of it, you'll know what I mean.
whatever man, i meant to say that i know stylisticly they have been influenced by that era and style of thing, and i was saying that i know because i have seen/heard lots of them, but there is no way that they are "renditions" of it... do you know what something being a "rendition" of something else means? have you ever listened to boc?
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-11-29 19:42 [#01410281]
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hahah, this is so funny
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-29 21:01 [#01410325]
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fucking hell I can't believe you just wrote an essay about the subject!
I'll leave the thread.
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2004-11-29 21:07 [#01410328]
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A+ student!
that's what you are,sir!
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Vestron
on 2004-11-30 00:01 [#01410386]
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dennis, I'm sure whatever you wrote was meaningful, please edit all of it into a short paragraph and I will gladly read it
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-11-30 00:27 [#01410387]
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jesus thats just overdoing it.
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2004-11-30 02:29 [#01410405]
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it wasn't that long. good work dennis.
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nuc
from outer space (United States) on 2004-11-30 05:25 [#01410455]
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dennis is right. also, it's been noticed that whenever someone posts something on Tycho's own messageboard like "come on man you're copying BOC's sound really closely" or something, the post gets mysteriously deleted, and he just leaves the posts that drool over him.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-11-30 05:40 [#01410462]
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we'll see what happens to the feces everyone left in the last days
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2004-11-30 06:03 [#01410466]
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i think we did a good job overthere?
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2004-11-30 06:08 [#01410468]
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i want see some sort of reaction from tycho.
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2004-11-30 06:14 [#01410472]
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i think we won't see the day of it...he only replies to celebration threads with ...yeah,i seek my inspiration in nature.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-11-30 07:04 [#01410484]
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I like his music. Definitely owes a lot to BOC, but I'm sure he realizes that and has never claimed to invent this kind of sound. And it is indeed an appealing sound. BOC didn't arrive at THEIR particular sound totally ''independently'' either, very few people do. Surely they did more to bring it forward than ''Tycho'' has, but... duh.
It's a decent album that I can enjoy, but it's not some revelation... it sounds too much like BOC to give it too much credit. But I doubt that's what he wants. I don't think this is too big a deal. I've heard plenty of other music from big names and not so big names that sound exactly like something else that came before it, but they won't get dissed because it's their friends reviewing it, or they didn't sound like a really sacred IDM cow. Or they didn't have such a nice webpage. It's still good music, sometimes great. Tycho just doesn't strike me as any more worthy of criticism.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-11-30 07:18 [#01410489]
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Damn you Ophecks, I was about to post that I like this stuff and now it will look like I'm trying to be cool like you. >:-(
I downloaded the sunrise projector album a while ago from Emusic and thought it was good, then forgot about it. Because of this thread I went and listened to it again.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-11-30 07:24 [#01410494]
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fun was had by all, and they lived happily ever after.
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pyro5hit9rind
from Pickering (Canada) on 2004-11-30 16:49 [#01411182]
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boc clone or not, its pretty cool
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big
from lsg on 2004-11-30 17:19 [#01411213]
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where's that from?
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stilaktive
from a place on 2004-11-30 17:28 [#01411222]
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im quite shpongled at the mo, heres a poem i wrote that im going to turn into a screamo song tmrw
Do you remeber when we ran right out of a pae from the necronomicon
plastered faces find it easier to smile when you give the touch which can kill ones soul as easy as genocide (?)
as the devil speaks of such sorrow the grin i see evil lurks like nothing before it crimson eyes, sharp dagger lips (?)
Can you close your self around me (haha yes) enveloped in complete beauty before the last of my heamaglobin (? what the fuck) pumps out of my heart right into the abyss that is yours
compared to the claws of your anger people cant stare underground seems too green, forests can grow around you
As i fade you turn gems giltter standing afar wings spread, contraction.
then i drew a little goblin, and let my hand spaz out and it made lots of cool sketchy patters. whwhwowowowowowoooooooooo
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Vestron
on 2004-11-30 17:30 [#01411224]
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Dear Phobiazero, I am truly utterly sorry, I will never have multiple accounts again. I am ashamed of myself for registering to Tycho's message board, multiple accounts = multiple shame. Please forgive me. I may not have many points,
but I have been here for quite some time indeed, and I hope that my time here is never-ending. Is it? Phobio?
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-11-30 17:32 [#01411225]
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shup up
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-30 17:34 [#01411229]
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shup up
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-11-30 17:37 [#01411233]
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the button "end" has ceased functioning...
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-30 17:39 [#01411236]
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shup up
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-11-30 17:47 [#01411242]
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Carry on. That was entertaining.
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big
from lsg on 2004-11-30 17:49 [#01411244]
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shup ip
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2004-11-30 17:51 [#01411246]
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Anybody ever listen to Structured Programming? Or Ten and Tracer? They is good.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-11-30 17:52 [#01411247]
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Shut up.
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-11-30 17:52 [#01411249]
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As i fade you turn gems giltter standing afar wings spread, contraction.
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stilaktive
from a place on 2004-11-30 17:56 [#01411251]
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haha
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-30 18:02 [#01411255]
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favoured are the star-spangled tongues that lick your feces.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-11-30 18:07 [#01411257]
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shit up!
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