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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-30 18:10 [#01411260]
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2004-11-30 18:13 [#01411262]
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his mb just turned into a xltronic clone :D
a monoid dxm thread, what a ripoff!!
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-11-30 18:14 [#01411263]
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I had chicken fingers for dinner. I said, "Those must have been mighty big chickens". Then my wife took off her human mask and pecked me to death.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-30 18:17 [#01411267]
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could you send me the mask, I would very much like to hump it.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-11-30 18:19 [#01411271]
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qrter backwards with anything below the fonts baseine cut off is "retro"
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-11-30 18:19 [#01411273]
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Can you close your self around me (haha yes) enveloped in complete beauty before the last of my heamaglobin (? what the fuck) pumps out of my heart right into the abyss that is
yours
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-11-30 18:20 [#01411275]
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and baseine is a word.. if you add an L wherever you'd like.
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Vestron
on 2004-11-30 18:21 [#01411276]
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multiple anger and confusion
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-11-30 18:22 [#01411279]
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I always had a feeling there was something odd about her.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-30 18:25 [#01411281]
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does she also have a rubber chicken?
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-11-30 18:29 [#01411290]
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A giant chicken wearing a Hitchcock deathmask isn't surreal enough? You want I should throw in a rubber chicken also?
Okay, for you is a rubber chicken and other accessories, maybe a spinning bow tie.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-11-30 18:34 [#01411300]
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radar stealth too.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-30 18:35 [#01411306]
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the spinning bow tie would freak me out.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-11-30 18:37 [#01411315]
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I think I'm feeling my way towards your weak spots. What about a comically tiny hat?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-30 18:40 [#01411324]
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oh my
that response had me doubled up with laughter :D
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-11-30 18:48 [#01411338]
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My new avatar will annihilate you.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-30 18:50 [#01411347]
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I'm almost sure it will not.
..almost...
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brokephones
from Londontario on 2004-11-30 21:29 [#01411435]
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Fuck this thread
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OK
on 2004-12-01 09:31 [#01411773]
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music exist before someone makes it... they just projected the same ideads from the ideal world (sic)
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Tycho
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-12-01 13:17 [#01412016]
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Hello-
Just was made aware of this thread....perhaps a bit late to reply to all of this, as the moment has probably passed for most here, but....
If you read any of the interviews I have done, or read any of the many lists of influences I have posted throughout my site and on many others, you will find that I make no attempt whatsoever to hide my love of BOC and what they have done for electronic music. However, if you were to honestly listen to the entire I album, you would see that it differs very greatly from BOC in many ways. True, it maintains the whole lofi, beat-driven, melodic asthetic...but this is a major movement in electronic music, you can't just ascribe it's origins to BOC and then say "Hands of everyone!"....well, I guess you can, on a message board somewhere.
So yes, of course I am influenced by BOC, but I am also influenced by the likes of Ulrich Schnauss and Fourtet, but by no means have I made any attempt to rip anyone off.
Say all you want about the music I suppose, I am no professional musician. I make music in my *very* spare time while paying the bills as a graphic designer. So for anyone to say that my album artwork is derivative of BOC is foolish. I have been a designer for longer than those fellows have been on the map over here in the states (been in it for 8 years now) . My work has been all over the world, on the covers of many an album and many a magazine cover. I have my own style...
So that's my reply, go ahead and flame the fuck out of me, but also, thanks to everyone who had kind words to say, I appreciate the support....
Oh yeah, last thing: Yes, of course I removed some posts from my message board... how stupid of me would it be to personally host the beligerant ramblings and massive photos that have been posted there of late? Isn't that the job of XLTronic?
Thanks | s.hansen | http://tychomusic.com - a u d i o | http://iso50.com - v i s u a
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-12-01 13:26 [#01412030]
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Did you delete that one thread where one poster acted as a satire of XLTronic and "recreated" other peoples accounts?
That was a good one.
Also hey! Good to see you've joined! :)
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brokephones
from Londontario on 2004-12-01 13:28 [#01412033]
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Your prints at your design website are dope
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brokephones
from Londontario on 2004-12-01 13:29 [#01412036]
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I'm thinking about taking graphic design, and have been learning alot of adobe illustrator/photoshop as well as dabbling in photography. Can you reccomend any good learning resources online? I have the classroom in a book for illustrator
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-12-01 13:31 [#01412038]
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well you have done better than another "artist" that was recently here. Perhaps you could give him some pointers on his flawed CD covers.
Cool
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2004-12-01 14:45 [#01412155]
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nice to see you replied...this makes things clear!
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-12-01 14:58 [#01412173]
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if this is Tycho... hahaha!
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Tycho
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-12-01 16:23 [#01412337]
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plaster: no problem, nice to clear things up. I have endless respect for BOC, but I don't want to be seen as a clone...and I think you will find that a single listen through of the album (NOT just the 30 second samples on the site) will show it's far from a cloning.
BROKENPHONES: I would say just scrounge around on google, that's how I did it. I also got the Illustrator WOW! book, that helped a lot. But the real key is just pushing yourself and every time you hit a roadblock, something you are confused about, just google it, learn it, and then keep going until you hit something again, until you stop hitting things....
thanks -scott
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-12-01 16:28 [#01412346]
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well, inice to see that your, how you said, free time hobby turned into CD sellin. i wish i could do that one day.
anyway, its obvious youve been treated as a BoC clone. no matter why, coz it really doesnt matter now. at least not here. what i think , is that every bit of criticism, even when you think its worthless, should bring you to consideration " what happend " and "why they say things like this". this , of course is very personal, so as the things you will do after whole mess about clones, BoC and stuff.
if your music is founded good - its ok, but be vary that everywhere are ppl that will think that your music is shit. no matter what will you do, and how.
therefore, i wouldt worry about whole topic, here ppl think that youre clone. world doesnt end here, does it ?
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2004-12-01 16:33 [#01412363]
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it's good music...for sure...
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xf
from Australia on 2004-12-02 04:08 [#01412900]
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tycho: to me, and a lot of others familiar with boc, the lines really are blurred between them and your own identity. there's no doubt you're talented; especially if you say you even do your own artwork, but it is very heavily boc influenced to the point where it almost /is/ boc. i can understand working as hard as you have to get where you are, perhaps you're taking offense to this and instantly are defensive, but it isn't just me that draws these parallels. do yourself a favour, and for your next album try and break truly into a unique sound and feel; evidently you're very capable of doing so. i think we can all see that you admire boc for what they've done; you've shaped your creations into them.
i did a little experiment today; my girlfriend isn't hugely into idm but is somewhat familiar with some of the artists because i play it quite often. i put tycho's album, and didn't say anything; normally she doesn't comment on music, or just changes it to the radio. she said she quite liked it.
although this music sounds somewhat simular to boc in terms of structure and even melody, it has much more of an "instant like" appeal than boc; boc i tend to find become far more enjoyable with more listens, although there's some depth boc have which i haven't heard yet in your music.
play your cards right dude, and i think you'll probably be quite successful; the only thing i'd like to see is you give credit where credit is due. you have borrowed incredibly heavily from boc, although you do introduce some new elements; i and others here would really appreciate it if you acknowledged this publically and not in obscure interviews or wherever you claim to have done it.
i've found myself listening to your album a bit, too, i must admit. the samples on your site really don't give it credit; my first impression certainly wasn't correct.
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stilaktive
from a place on 2004-12-02 04:26 [#01412906]
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hey tycho ive been listening to your stuff for a while since it was up on (the old) mp3.com. I loved it. i mean i love BoC as well but to me your music represents something quite different. And your new studio looks fookin amazing.
I also read your interview with computer arts, your designs are so good. Do you use the same Comp for art and music?
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-12-02 04:39 [#01412919]
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Dear BOC,
This is what happens when you don't release a record for years, the people get depserate and start making their own BOC tracks. If you don't release an album soon people will forget you, and then when you do eventually return they'll say that you're influenced by Tychoo, and then where will we be, eh? Eh?
Yours, dog_belch
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xf
from Australia on 2004-12-02 04:58 [#01412924]
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haha
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Dael
from the low end (Australia) on 2004-12-02 07:13 [#01413001]
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wow, I stumbled to this thread and I can't believe some of the stuff I've read. I checked out the site and I gotta say the tunes are pretty well done. If u can put the BOC references/similarities in the back of your head (no doubt a hard task for some of the dedicated BOC fans on here) then there's some real nice ambience for the ears and mind,
my two cents
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-12-02 07:14 [#01413003]
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but they are boc clones!!??
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xf
from Australia on 2004-12-02 07:45 [#01413023]
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i don't know. i'd like to do that, and i've tried, but everything just screams BOC - from the artwork, to the song tracks, to the way songs are structured and the kind of samples/the way they're placed.
given, there are some songs on the album that do start to stray into a different style, but they're not anywhere near as good.
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mappatazee
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Come on, it's not THAT much like BoC tracks. It's like someone tried to make BoC tracks, but failed and made something every-day boring. What's the big deal? People do this all the time with other artists. Oh, besides the track names and artwork I guess. Sunrise projector. Sunshine recorder. E
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xf
from Australia on 2004-12-02 08:24 [#01413059]
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Atli
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2004-12-02 08:57 [#01413071]
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i think it's a bit far to say that his artwork is influenced by boc. he is a designer and has been doing this for at least 8 years. this is his own style.
my first impression of this record was that it was very boc-like indeed but like tycho says himself it has so many things that aren't boc-like. i've heard many other "clones" that sound like boc but like someone said the didn't invent the genre or style. some of his tracks are very upbeat, which i don't see in many boc tracks for example. i got the record from emusic and listened to it through and the samples don't show the whole picture of course. i also got "the science of patterns EP" and it sounded good as well.
if i were making music it would probably be boc-like too, because i used to listen to them much, but probably with a touch of glitch or something.
i think everything plays its role in making this release look boc-like, the track titles, the feel of the songs and like some says, the artwork (which too me isn't that boc-like really, looks very cool by the way), the childrens laughter and other samples.
so, scott, as some people said above, criticism can sometimes hurt although it might be coming from people you don't give a fuck about, but most of the time there's always a grain of truth in what people are saying. i've said some things before about your stuff that i mightn't have thought through well enough when i come to think about it.
and yeah, boc is one of my favourite bands but they're no gods like some people like to claim.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-12-02 09:07 [#01413077]
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My favourite bit on the website is a logo that says Tychoosim. Which is a bit like Twoism but obviously with loads of other influences so it's not fair to say it's just another example of ripping of BOC. At all.
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somejerk
from south florida, US (United States) on 2004-12-02 09:58 [#01413113]
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good music is good music. enjoy it and stop bitching, trying to call people out. elitism is silly.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-12-02 10:08 [#01413118]
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I don't believe anyone in this thread has displayed a sense of entitlement based soley on the class or group to which they belong, but no, you're right, elitism is silly.
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Tycho
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-12-02 11:53 [#01413269]
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Fair enough.... I appreciate the comments... just like any other artist, I have been evolving since the sessions that ended up as sunrise projector (2003-2004) and the new material I have been writing is a definite departure from the album.
I guess I just wanted to make the point that I have never set out to take what belonged to someone else and pass it off as my own. If some here feel that is what I have done, I am sorry for insulting your sensibilities.
for the record though:
DOG_BELCH: the logo on the website says "Tychomusic" with music backwards, not "Tychoism"....
and the samples of children are me and my brother as kids, they're tapes I have that I've used pieces of in all my music since I started out.
stilaktive: thanks...yeah, I use the same PC for all my work.
so thanks to everyone, it's been interesting to get so many perspectives and feedback on the record.
oh yeah, one other thing: I read somewhere in these forums about another artist called "Kelpe" who people were saying was like BOC... either way, this album is fucking great: http://www.juno.co.uk/IP/IF155253-02.htm
-scott
| s.hansen | http://tychomusic.com - a u d i o | http://iso50.com - v i s u a l
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-12-02 12:05 [#01413281]
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Sorry, you're quite right, my mistake.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-12-02 12:22 [#01413298]
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I dont know weather i should listen or not. I am completely torn
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Q4Z2X
on 2004-12-02 13:17 [#01413357]
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Amazin'
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2004-12-02 13:29 [#01413370]
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they haven't captured the emotion of BoC
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Atli
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2004-12-02 14:16 [#01413455]
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that's a good album as well, just got it this week.
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Fredd-E
from Belgium on 2004-12-02 16:27 [#01413562]
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I really like the Kelpe album. It's only a bit like boc though.
And yes I even like Tycho's album even though it sounds a lot more like BoC :D
It's all good music on its own.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-12-02 17:11 [#01413596]
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Hey Tycho, I was one of the few to stick up for you, send me some free stuff kthxbye.
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