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Right, the next thing I want to learn is how to do the amen cut-up's like Squarepusher and Dirqual...No matter what I have tried I just can't get the sound right. Is the original sample pitched up before you start sequencing? The other thing I want to know is how to do the bass drum thing that I have heard Aphex, Chris Clark and Mike P do. Chris does it on The Gavel...it is like the a standard beat but then one of them sounds either reversed or it builds up or something. I can't figure that out either. Just some hints on how it is done would be nice. :P |
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I'm just as clueless as you are :/ |
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well, i'm not trying to be an expert, but there's gonna be a lot involved with what Squarepusher and Aphex et al do to their stuff....there's gonna be heavy EQ'ing, compression, gating, etc etc etc. Then they've spent years getting to know how to put a good 'groove' on samples, etc etc etc So the only way you'll learn is if you try. And it's best if you try for yourself, and develop your ideas from then on, because then you'll get your own engineering and mastering style, and your samples will sound like yours - instead of sounding like it's ripped straight from another artist :) |
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get a wave editor program, like Soundfore or CoolEdit. Cut out the bass, snare and high hats, and put them where-ever you want them.. |
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gah, not more amen breaks!! Meh, use it as a learning tool, dont end up putting out 4 fucking volumes of amen tracks though. I'm getting sick of hearing the same beat sampled all the time. |
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tip: take a standard 909 house beat (2 measure loop or something) and pitch it up 5 notes in soundforge or whatever you are using. Now use recycle to cut it up and save the individual wavs. What next? Enhance the bass in the samples containing a kick and remove bass from samples that dont contain a kick. Load them into your sampler or into any program you use and try out your new, quite interesting drumkit. -C- |
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Man you guys are all fucking backwards !!!!! HAHAHAHA ! Thats not how you do it at all !!!! |
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Nah the reason I want to know how to do the cut up's is so I can apply it to different things, but as the amen is the most widely used I just thought I would ask about it :D |
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I have herd that track before :D But it is a little too North American for my tastes. |
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HAHAHA!! Thats the coolest thing Ive ever heard !!! Thanks ! |
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just cut it up like a regular chicken |
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OK I'll give that a go...but if this knife ruins my screen I am holding you responsible. |
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beatslicer, or chop it up in wave editing programs and sequence all the cuts individually. I don't like the idea of "quick tricks" on how to make drill n bass. Imho the best way to do it is entirely manually. Most of the time I just make my own kits now and spent ages on drum programming. |
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I tried cutting an amen sample up using Recycle, I still can't get the pitch right, and also the sequencing never sounds right...but I have just had an idea :D Cheers |
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post an mp3 of what you have and ill tell you what is going wrong. |
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Thanks by the way :D |
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I downloaded a neat little program for re-arranging beats. Works a fucking treat and I have no idea where I got it from. I can e-mail it to you though if you want mate? It's 213KB zipped up. It's fucking simple to use as well. Look at the screenshot and see the colours? Change the colour and it changes the order that the sample is played in and other things. Nice. :D |
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Actually I wouldn't mind having a look at that if you don't mind emailing it to me :D I have got my email address in my profile now, I decided extra spam isn't going to make any difference, expecially when marlowe mass emailed everyone on the kneejerk board with my email address as the reply :P |
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I'd quite like a look too if it's ok? I've been trying to find a crack/full version of zero-x beatcreator, but without much success. |
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Done :) |
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Cheers Mr :D |
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NOW YOU TELL ME! ;-) No problems sir. Sent already :) |
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giginger can i have it too? |
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I only received an amen sample with a bass drum in the background and a text file with the following: Antigen for Exchange removed amen.zip->Amen1b.exe since it was found to match the FILE FILTER= *.exe file filter. I don't know if this is your end or hotmail...oh well :P |
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You both have a second e-mail. Ignore the first one. My bad. I forgot about the network removing things :$ |
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try using a tracker program to program your beats. FTII - fast tracker II its free and it runs on a piss weak computer.. |
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Yeah, I realised that after I sent the e-mails. What a fucker. kurrak, you may indeed. |
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Done :-) |
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Armed with the name of the software from your two aborted zip emails I've tracked it down to ! Cheers for the effort anyway :D |
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Two aborted? Did the second one not work either? It should've had a file called .nipples. Remove the nipples bit and change it to .exe Although as you've tracked the program down.... |
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The second email worked for me :D It looks good, the only bad thing is it only handles mono samples. |
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I'm not very good with drum n bass so i try to avoid that style. I have a few good tricks for drum programming though. :D |
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sounds like you kinda know what you are doing.. just keep going. I guess i would have to hear a few more measures to see if something is going dreadfuly wrong. The method I would use, using a tracker would be: * Set the tempo for the track. * Load break-beat (Amen). * Adjust pitch of break-beat to sync with BPM so you have a nice loop. * Once pitch is locked in, cut the break-beat into pieces; kick, snare, high hats, cymbol, shuffles, etc.. * Delete your uncut break-beat * Playing the newly cut samples at the same pitch as the locked loop that was created means you can pgm the rythm however you want.. the same way you would program a beat using a synth kick drum and snare.. but now the timing will be accurate with the sequencer. does that make sense? |
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Ah yes :D I haven't been adjusting the pitch until after I have organised the beats. I guess I am trying too much new stuff at once. Thanks :) |
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What a wonderfully worded help that was. Seriously that's about as clear and simple as it gets :D |
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yep thats the way.. also with tracker programs it is great for doing half time and double time loops (double or half speed). |
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Now I just need to know how to do the drum thingy like on the gavel...then my masterplan is almost complete :D!!!!!! |
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thanx giginger! |
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what's an amen cutup? can you eat it? :P |
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what is that thing that you are talking about? |
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just sample the the drum programing you want to learn and get it to loop in FTII then try and match it with a kick and a snare sample.. thats the best way. then you can make the amen break with what ever samples you want.. wet farts, what ever. |
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giginger i've received a zip file without program file. could you send me the right version? |
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the name of this tracks, the funky drummer.... funky drummer : ) |
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It's like a standard four to the floor bass or kick drum but it has like a reversed beat in it too...dunno if it is reversed or a slightly time stretched beat, but it gives a real extra impact. I have a feeling the reason I am having problems is purely down to timing. I'll just keep messing about and see what happens :D |
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interesting fact: i was listening to old james brown's stuff and i found the track ''funky drummer'' and then i've managed that luke vibert's ''funky drummer'' is just a new version of it. maybe it's obvious for you but it's just my observation, sorry ;) |
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Forgot to put the quicj instructions in your e-mail mate. Change the .nipples file to .exe and all will be right with the world :) |
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havent heard luke vibert's "funky drummer", but james browns one is awesome.. hhhmmm, yeahh..heeeeHHH.. (james brown vocal grunts incase you were wonder'n) : ) |
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not sure if anyone cares anymore, but my amen cut-up thing i just did for an example.. |
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That was fuckin' sweet! |
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