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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-05-06 22:59 [#00208566]
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hmm..come to think of it..but what is the status of IDM now used to be the status of Industrial..but waaay too many dumb people are supposedly listening to INDUSTRIAL now..and even dumber people are making "Industrial"..so I think it's more of a matter of time and passage into the realm of acceptance..I am warning you..the masses are about to breakdown the doors that's seprating IDM fans from the rest..and you have to thank bands like Boards of Canada for that..It is being featured on the mainshelf of every mainstream music store down here in the EnZed..right next to the JLos and the Dentiny Hos..and the other day I read a really smug review of it in the local giveaway pub guide rag...(it's really lowbrow and degenrate stuff..this rag the kiwis should know..I am talkin about The Fix..)..
basically BoC are to IDM what NiN were to Industrial..the band that takes a genre to the masses
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-05-07 23:00 [#00210027]
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what about BT's beat he did for n'sync with "pop"? :)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-10-04 02:10 [#00392206]
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here hehehe TEKNO - FOOD FOR THE BRAIN
hello cybernauts !!
TEkno is music created to enlarge the abilities of the brain !
The brain emits some waves ( see brain waves ) like a , b , theta .
This brain waves are used to connect the two halfs of the brain .
The right part with the left part .
Those frequencies are used in creation of TEKNO music !!!!! (.)
So i fell free to say two things :
A) TEKNO sessions are sessions to heal the brain ( interconect the two halfs of the brain )
B) HoUSe sessions of AG are sessions to heal the emotional part of our soul !!!
AG FOOD FOR THE BRAIN or AG MEDICINE SCHOOL !!!!!!!!!!
:))))))))
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-10-04 02:18 [#00392209]
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Yep, it's like studying literature or any other art. The process of examining it is "mental exercise" like doing maths/logic puzzles/programming etc.
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str_ph
from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-04 02:41 [#00392217]
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Does any of our IDM superHeroes have a PhD or equivalent ?
I don't think so - then how can dumb people make intelligent music ?
There's this urban lengend about RDJ or Ae writting entire piece of software for their own purpose. Do you think that's truely true or do they call programming the use of MAX patches ???
I don't like IDM because it makes me feel intelligent / don't need that
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2002-10-04 02:47 [#00392222]
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nah. and a lot of braindancers are al least as closed minded about music (ie hate all rap, hate all rock, hate all pop without exception).
often means you appreciate sounds more though, which is a good thing!!!
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raimons
from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2002-10-04 03:33 [#00392266]
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that is true sido, intelegence takes many different forms. But you dont get intelegent of Idm music. You may become more open for new things. When making the music? well, you probobly end up being well educated in forms of music. but still not smarter.
smart is something else think.
am i smart? dumb?
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map
from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-10-04 07:14 [#00392353]
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so true str_ph..
why IDM ? i'm wondering who invented that ...
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Carisba
from Roma (Italy) on 2002-10-04 08:44 [#00392415]
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IDM is an horrendous acronym,as if only that music genre (genre? Do exit music genres?) were intelligent.
And classic music?Is it not intelligent?
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-10-04 08:50 [#00392422]
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I consider myself very open minded about music... to an extent... I like rock more than IDM, actually, but I'm obsessed with them both, that's a good thing.
But popular music makes me extremely angry, and actually DEPRESSED when I hear it. I want their listening audience drawn and quartered. But aside from the obvious targets, music meant to make money off the expense of stupid teenagers, I like everything.
And IDM is a a moronic term, but I just shut out the meaning in my head. IDM isn't even an acronym to me anymore, just a ''word''. You know what I mean when I say IDM, it's convenient.
Another thing that literally makes me sad is pop-country music, the Dixie Chicks and Garth Brooks and all that. The stuff they play on their instruments is actually REALLY tough to play, but... fuck... the music and songs are so jawdroppingly awful... it brings a tear to my eye that the Beatles aren't here to be both the most creative band, and the most popular. They could save us.
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browncrapcycle
from Berkeley (United States) on 2002-10-04 16:15 [#00392845]
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I don't think listening to IDM(or any other genre) is an accurate indicator of intelligence.
Although people that are constantly searching for new music, ideas, expieriences, are probably a hell of a lot more creative. Because that's what creativity is- gobbling up an enormous amount of unrelated things, and then vomiting it all out in a new and beautiful form.
And now for something you might find funny/sad/interesting----
Scientists kill mice with dance music
by Danielle Demetriou Scientists who forced drugged mice to endure fatal doses of loud dance music have been accused of " despicable" cruelty by animal welfare campaigners.
The study by Cambridge University examined how loud music strengthens the harmful effects of methamphetamine, the drug commonly known as speed.
Wendy Higgins of the British Union for the Abolition of Vivisection, said: "These sick experiments are absolutely despicable. Just because people choose to take drugs and go to raves doesn't justify subjecting animals to suffering and death in a laboratory."
The scientists, who used a total of 238 mice in the experiment, concluded that loud music strengthened the toxic effects of methamphetamine in animals.
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-10-04 16:16 [#00392848]
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I am a lot more stupid than I was when I first started listening to IDM.
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MrTenzin
from The Concrete Jungle (United States) on 2002-10-04 16:16 [#00392849]
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yes it does ;]
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-04 16:46 [#00392919]
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I think, along with classical and jazz, it does streatch one's musical intelligence (ie-noticing patterns, sounds, structures, ect..) but doesn't make you smarter. For example, I'm still awful at maths, but I believe my imagination has been widened by the music I listen to.
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2019-06-07 11:14 [#02579611]
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bump
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2019-06-07 20:12 [#02579641]
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Nah. But it puts you in an intellectual mood, which i found helpful for cognitive behavioral therapy. So maybe yes, if it helps you deal with your emotions in a diffrent way (but that can be said for any kind of music)
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-06-07 20:31 [#02579648]
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its like weight training for your grey matter
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-06-07 20:32 [#02579649]
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I can no calculate PI from 2000 decimal places backwards thanks to listening to ziggomatic 17 repeatedly
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2019-06-07 20:41 [#02579653]
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do you make idm clever? yes!
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2019-06-07 20:43 [#02579654]
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reminds me of that guy that came out saying it took him 3, 6 or 10 years to make an album to sell 23 copies
totally inventing like some upon base like the rza
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2019-06-09 16:55 [#02579723]
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its like weight training for your grey matter
this, i feel, nails it. the nuance, though, is it's rather specialized. i've taken to tapping my fingers to music on the train, and i've felt increasing dexterity in my fingers; better motor control. it absolutely translates into results when i'm twiddling knobs and playing keys, later. i've taken the energy of it and directed it into something more specific.
clever, though? cleverness is a different thing entirely. i'd actually struggle to define it... but, i would say -- weight training won't help you with agility; reaction time. or cleverness
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2019-06-09 16:55 [#02579724]
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maybe i should learn to think in time to music. or, well, take another stab at it. i did try a few years back; didn't really happen
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mermaidman
on 2019-06-09 17:58 [#02579725]
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can u read music? can u say which chord it is when u hear it or play something accurately on the keyboard when u hear it
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2019-06-09 19:16 [#02579734]
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also transcribing rhythms for pulse based music (ie most of it), eg. onto a step sequencer or whatever notation you prefer. That to me is more fundamental than pitches - it's like getting the relative scale of things in a drawing correct... serial/parallel pitches come after.
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2019-06-09 19:23 [#02579735]
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i love talking too and fucking about with people who have learned music theory through a university or school.... It is a cliche to say that 'yeah they have it in their little boxes and nothing else exists' but its also true.
Where's that Frank Zappa wiki
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2019-06-09 19:41 [#02579736]
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'Classical music' has the reputation for being the music that clever people listen to, but its all basically pop tunes, groups of 4. And people will get snobby about it (my Mam included) that it's somehow 'cleverer' to listen to that rather than eg. dub tunes and be well into the timbre and what is going on in the mix. I wouldn't say they aren't 'clever' enough to notice that there is variation going on somewhere else that U can dig.... I'm not really sure why it doesn't catch their attention that there is equal depth to be explored.
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2019-06-09 19:44 [#02579737]
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I don't think it's very clever to be listening to the same tunes all the time, clever is having curiousity about stuff and probably getting bored quite easily.
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