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           Riccardo
             from somewhere beyond the ultraworl on 2002-05-06 16:51 [#00207904]
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 i think so...
 
  
         
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           Resident Evil
             from heat some coffee, mmm, mmm (Australia) on 2002-05-06 16:53 [#00207906]
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Well, you are listening to great music, so it must make you  more intelligent! 
 
  
         
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           uzim
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seems like a reversed cause/effect relation... isn't it  rather "you are more intelligent, so it must make you listen  to great music"?
 
  and even so... chacun ses goûts! (each one has its own  tastes) :) 
 
  
         
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           Jarworski
             from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-06 17:09 [#00207909]
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           B3n
             from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-06 17:13 [#00207910]
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I found after 10 days of intensive listening my brain grew  30% 
 
  
         
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           Sido Dyas
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skcollob
 
  
         
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           joakim
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i don't think you get smarter by listening to so-called  "idm", but you're clearly open-minded musicwise at least.  and that's always a good thing.
 
  i feel sorry for all those tossers that are listening to  eurodance or all of that f*ckin' top40 shite. it ain't da  shiznatz, if yis ge' me drift. 
 
  
         
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           tolstoyed
             from the ocean on 2002-05-06 17:16 [#00207915]
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skcollob x 2
 
  
         
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           uzim
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open-minded?
  yeah... but it can depend — if you only listen to idm,  denigrating other genres, you're not really open-minded... 
 
  
         
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           Riccardo
             from somewhere beyond the ultraworl on 2002-05-06 17:17 [#00207917]
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it widens your horizons...you won't see things in the same  way as before 
 
  
         
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           uzim
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$K©°l|öß x pi
 
  
         
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           tolstoyed
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thinghs related to music?
 
  
         
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           joakim
             from Norway on 2002-05-06 17:21 [#00207924]
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you probably had to be quite open-minded in the beginning to  get into the idm stuff, i reckon. but it works the other way  around as well, of course.  
 
  
         
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           map
             from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-05-06 17:21 [#00207925]
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it0s just that some peoples hear more than other, some  peoples are able to  get more details and character of  music, other peoples can't understand, or won't understand  that other good music exist, just cliché peoples IMO 
 
  
         
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           uzim
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since music influencates your mood... if you're listening to  idm or if you have idm tracks in your head, you're seeing  things differently — not only things related to music... 
 
  
         
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           map
             from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-05-06 17:23 [#00207929]
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uzim: it's a way of life... 
 
  
         
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           uzim
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yeah... you're right
 
  
         
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           Ceri JC
             from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-05-06 17:28 [#00207939]
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A total state of being... I *am* IDM.
 
  
         
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           tolstoyed
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situation with me is that i really like this music ther's not much more to it
 
  
         
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           map
             from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-05-06 17:29 [#00207941]
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"if you're listening to  idm or if you have idm tracks in your head, you're seeing  things differently"
  very good point, i like this sentence... the whole way of thinking changes...
 
  
         
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           map
             from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-05-06 17:30 [#00207943]
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i think we're all on the same way..... 
 
  
         
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           The_Funkmaster
             from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-05-06 17:30 [#00207944]
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nah, it doesn't make you smarter... that's an arrogant thing  to say I think...  
 
  
         
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           Monoid
             from one source all things depend on 2002-05-06 17:32 [#00207945]
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Im still a dumass
 
  
         
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           map
             from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-05-06 17:33 [#00207946]
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i'm with you funkmaster, it doesn't "make" you  intelligenter. but i think ppl's who like "idm", have  something special IMO 
 
  
         
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           Cheffe1979
             from fuck (Austria) on 2002-05-06 17:36 [#00207950]
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at least you don't usually go with the mainstream; i think  that's the special thing.... 
 
  
         
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           Ophecks
             from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-05-06 18:00 [#00207972]
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I feel superior because I listen to IDM. Am I a cocky twat?  Yes. But you can't but feel a notch above the rest of the  monkeys when CockVer10 is blasting out the car and turning  heads, while everyone else has some lame mainstream bassy p  hop playing.
 
  I find IDM fans are a hell of a lot smarter and more  interesting, anyway. 
 
  
         
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           titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-05-06 18:03 [#00207973]
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there's a major difference between good musical taste and  intelligence. i of course have an abundance of both =D 
 
  
         
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           Sido Dyas
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The only people geting smarter is the ones MAKING the  IDM.... 
 
  
         
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           titsworth
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i think listening to certain types of music does make you  more intelligent if you really follow and grasp what's going  on. comprehending music is a valuable skill. obviously in  idm, jazz, classical, etc. there's more to grasp than in  punk or pop, but there's meaning to every note of every  composition. 
 
  
         
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           Co-existence
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No way! ...could make you more arrrrrogant tho...
 
  
         
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           Sido Dyas
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Yeah but theres a difference betwen Personality and  Inteligence.
  Inteligence takes so many forms , music is only one....
 
  
         
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           Sido Dyas
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           The_Funkmaster
             from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-05-06 18:12 [#00207993]
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music doesn't make you more intelligent... music is only as  good as what you bring to it, thus, you have to already be  of a certain intelligence or personallity type or whatever,  to like IDM, Jazz, classical, or whatever... that's just my  opinion... 
 
  
         
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           Paco
             from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2002-05-06 18:17 [#00208001]
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Before IDM my life was upside down. I'd go out with friends,  yes, I had friends back then. There was time to kill and I  would waste hours being social and taking care of them. They  would ask me out and we'd meet some girls from school and go  watch a movie.
 
  NOW, when I first started to listen to IDM, I noticed how I  didn't have to answer their calls anymore. I felt no need to  call back either! I would sit home alone, hypnotized by the  distorted beats, masturbating. My full acne camo returned  within days of no care! I strongly feel that without IDM my  life would be the same hell it always was. IDM is solely  responsible for these fantastic results. Thank you, Sean,  Rob and Richard.
 
  -P
  PS. Arovane. Winamp. Now.  
 
  
         
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           Ophecks
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Not that the music makes you smarter, but smarter people  tend to gravitate to... erm... smarter music. I've never  talked to an Autechre fan that was a stupid Abercrombie and  Fitch frat boy moron.  
 
  
         
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           DirtyPriest
             from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2002-05-06 18:19 [#00208007]
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I dont think so
  I can just think about some nu metal messageboard where  someone goes, "Nu metal will make you cleverer". and clearly  this is not the case.
 
  I just like the music, i dont want to put it up on some  pedestal it cant live up to. 
 
  
         
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           PhystPhukt
             from The Holiest of Holes (United States) on 2002-05-06 18:22 [#00208012]
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I think that it kinda does, but how exactly are you  measuring the inntelligence here? A quotent? Clverness?  Imagination? Creativity? I think that it doesnt really  affect intelligence, or measure it for that matter, but I  think that theres a difference between those who listen to  Trashy club techno, and then those who listen to AFX and  Autechre and whatnot. But only when it comes to creativity  and imagination. You know, we just dont pick techno or IDM  so we can f'n DANCE to it or take drugs and wig out on it.
 
  --takes a bow--
  I like fried chicken. --Listening to "The Garden Of Lin  Miri-- 
 
  
         
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           The_Funkmaster
             from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-05-06 18:26 [#00208023]
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yes, there is a difference, but I don't think it's  necessarily an intelligence difference but more of a  personality difference... those who like IDM maybe just take  music more seriously, and spend more time listening... it  doesn't mean we're smarter, but that we just enjoy listening  to music more, and take it more seriously...  
 
  
         
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           PhystPhukt
             from The Holiest of Holes (United States) on 2002-05-06 18:27 [#00208026]
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Funkmaster --nod nod--
 
  
         
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           marlowe
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my friend had t-shirt about 7 years ago, which said, to  humourous effect
 
  I THINK THEREFORE I AMBIENT
 
  
         
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           nanotech
             from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-05-06 19:04 [#00208119]
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  once i get a new job, i'm going to start crafting my own  shirts /w crazy sayings like that... 
 
  
         
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           B3n
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"Not that the music makes you smarter, but smarter people  tend to gravitate to... erm... smarter music."
  yeah, I've found that ophecks, you do get the odd person  like Kara though 
 
  
         
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           nhiiq
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ok, this is from an old post, too lazy to retype, everything  again...
 
  >>>
  i think what the funkmaster said (i think it was him) is  that with this kind of music there is a lot more detail to  pick out... it may make you feel more intelligent but it's  more that you can notice things better, the "little things"  seem more vibrant (sp) to whatever sense receives the type 
  of stimulation. 
  i think autechre and BoC effected me the most... when i  first listened to these artists i was bored or what not...  but as i forced myself to listen i began to notice a lot  more in the music. such as sounds intereacting... and the  formation of mental imagery. 
  the people that listen to mainstream music don't get the joy  of the artists place detail within the music... drums, bass,  guitar, and vocals. the element thats only up for  interpretation in "pop" music is the vocal... and drums for  
  their feet to interpret too. pop music is intended to just  be "popped" in and almost be comes the background, or a 
  "mood setter". 
  electronic on the other hand is "listening music". 
  hope that made some sense, i'm damn tired.
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           Zephyr Twin
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Yeah I think that ^ (nhiiq) is pretty true. As a person who  used to mainly listen to underground melodic punk (not  poppunk) I feel that I tried to do the same thing, that is,  listen to the deeper points of music (sound interactions,  mental imagery) and I quickly gravitated towards IDM because  there truly is so much more to listen for, every song  reminds me of some past experience I have lived and the  feelings associated with that experience. The aspect I find  the most ironic is that those who only listen to pop have no  idea what they are missing... On intelligence, well I don't  feel any smarter, mostly just that my senses are being  stimulated in a way that regular music doesnt come near, and  maybe that could account for the feeling of becoming more  intelligent. Hope this is useful ;) 
 
  
         
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           digital messiah
             on 2002-05-06 21:49 [#00208440]
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xaxaxa what a bunch of bullshit....
  to the guys who think they are smarter cuz theyre listening  to idm,....i feel sorry for u... 
 
  
         
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           flea
             from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-05-06 22:07 [#00208489]
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what I need to ask is.. does being clever make you IDM?
 
  
         
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           REFLEX
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Yeah I really doubt it makes you any smarter.
 
  
         
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           flea
             from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-05-06 22:41 [#00208539]
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you hit it on the head REFLEX:)
 
  
         
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           Ophecks
             from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-05-06 22:43 [#00208542]
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It doesn't make you smarter, but I can't help but notice  that people that listen to ''mainstream'' music are dumber.  So... there must be SOME correlation.  
 
  
         
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           map
             from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-05-06 22:58 [#00208563]
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hold on, we just listen to electronic music, or the most of  them is electronic generated music. if i ask a mainstream  trancehead what for sound he likes to listen to it, he maybe  answers "electronic" or "techno" or something, "sorry,  you're a lier" 
 
  
         
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