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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2020-01-10 01:09 [#02592896]
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RussellDust
on 2020-01-10 16:47 [#02592912]
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Yes it’s well known that the UK is terrible with its black community compared to the US....
What a shit article, basically citing tabloids and saying “hey look at England!”.
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big
from lsg on 2020-01-10 19:04 [#02592914]
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Nah, it's a good way of exposing underbelly, overt racism.
Underbelly, overt racism as opposed to institutional racism, which the article (an opinion piece, btw) goes into as well (maybe you have to scroll further down for that)
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big
from lsg on 2020-01-10 19:21 [#02592915]
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Oh, and a whataboutism as well
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big
from lsg on 2020-01-10 19:31 [#02592916]
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I now realize you're saying she went from a rock to a hard place. But I'm pretty sure it's worse than anyone really can imagine.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2020-01-10 20:06 [#02592917]
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Straight outta Compton Crazy motherfucker named Meghan From projects to the palace Now I’m back again Pack a glock when I go fox hunting Cos the royal motherfuckers need culling
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RussellDust
on 2020-01-10 20:06 [#02592918]
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Yeah the British tabloids excel at it, but the British tabloids don’t represent the UK, unlike what the article is trying to say.
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RussellDust
on 2020-01-10 20:07 [#02592919]
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“Maybe you have to scroll down...”
God you can be patronising.
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RussellDust
on 2020-01-10 20:17 [#02592920]
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Have you lived in England much, big?
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2020-01-10 20:20 [#02592921]
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Is she mixed race? Don’t know owt about her tbh and thought she was white until this thread.
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2020-01-10 22:55 [#02592927]
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"Britain’s communities of color,"... Who the fuck talks like this? Apart from aggrieved professional victims that work in either academia or the media, most people just want to get along. And do get along. If this country was such a hotbed of steaming RACISM there'd be riots. But hey, it sells New Yorker articles and music by that closet poof Stormzy
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-01-10 23:01 [#02592930]
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have to say I agree with Roger on this one, there is probably some racist people who don't like her for that reason, but by in large I think a lot of people don't like her cos she is a drawing massive attention to herself in the media and doesn't kotow to royal protocol, I don't care myself this is just the vibe I get from people like my mum who follows this crap,
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-01-10 23:02 [#02592931]
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I think it could genuinely be much more to do with her being American, and seen as uncouth and vulgar rather than race
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2020-01-11 00:06 [#02592936]
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theyre not that into the social tissue arent they
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-01-11 00:55 [#02592938]
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I think it's OK to be Racist against royalty.
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big
from lsg on 2020-01-11 01:19 [#02592939]
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there's a big grey bar and i thought it stopped there for a second
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big
from lsg on 2020-01-11 01:23 [#02592940]
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and your comment was bad. everyone knows about tabloids, yes
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big
from lsg on 2020-01-11 01:35 [#02592941]
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i agree there's a lot of links to the daily mail. i disagree the article is bad
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2020-01-11 06:48 [#02592945]
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didn't read but am enjoying the piercing insights by this board's greatest political intellects itt
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2020-01-11 06:49 [#02592946]
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it's not racism that kills its people with racisms
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wavephace
from off the chain on 2020-01-11 07:09 [#02592947]
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It was racist for Harry to marry Meghan in the first place because the royal family are literally welfare queens and Meghan becoming a welfare queen reinforces harmful canards, myths, tropes, and stereotypes about women of color being welfare queens (which they aren't). Also the institution of marriage itself is extremely problematic. At least they're raising their kid NB though
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big
from lsg on 2020-01-11 09:02 [#02592949]
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pretty special people think a country like Britain isn't racist, maybe watch this, while turning off your defensiveness for a second
(kinda unrelated, here's a good doc i saw the other day, that's about the police state (Britain but more largely applicable) and so inevitably about institutional racism)
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RussellDust
on 2020-01-11 11:20 [#02592952]
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Fucking hell big...
Racism is a problem in the UK. It’s not a safe haven. What I’m trying to say is that the tone of the article is a bit extreme.
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RussellDust
on 2020-01-11 11:21 [#02592953]
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But hey let’s just look at it one way...
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RussellDust
on 2020-01-11 11:24 [#02592954]
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What comment was bad? Gosh you’re a passive aggressive piece of work. I bet you think very highly of yourself.
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2020-01-11 12:29 [#02592955]
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Gee, totally non-racist woman repeatedly refers to the "average white person"... Look at me being defensive, I've proved her point!?!?.
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2020-01-11 12:43 [#02592956]
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The thing about being lectured to by a woman with a PHD in Racism Studies, is that she'll "prove" your sorry racist ass is racist, and show you that you don't even know what racism is even though you're the living embodiment of racism. White academics love racism, love it, it's the gift that keeps on giving. Who isn't racist? Only have white friends? Racist. In a mixed-race relationship? Racist, must be some colonial, slave shit role play going on. Once looked disapprovingly at some youth dropping his fried chicken bones onto the street, the street where you live not him? Failed to take into account systematic racism and 2000 years of trauma - Racist. Took a black man's job? Racist. Gave a black man a job. Just the one? Racist.
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-01-11 13:14 [#02592957]
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is england Racist? let's ask these middle aged white nerds
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-01-11 13:17 [#02592958]
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i read that as hand job at first glance, i was wondering if you could masturbate somebody in a racist way
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-01-11 13:19 [#02592959]
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followup to roger not russ, obvs
anyway i'd feel like jeremy beadle
(Racist.)
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big
from lsg on 2020-01-11 13:27 [#02592960]
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Any (suspected) downplaying of racism just makes me hella mad.
Saying the article is extreme is tone policing. I'd say just look at what the article tries to get across. And don't judge its methods: dismantling centuries of oppression and collective gas lightning isn't easy. In the process of doing that someone may sound harsh.
Roger Wilco: yes, that's the defensiveness. Good that you spot it, now try to do something productive with it. Taking in this information is a good first step.
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big
from lsg on 2020-01-11 13:27 [#02592961]
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hey!
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RussellDust
on 2020-01-11 15:05 [#02592962]
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I never downplayed racism! Are you looking for shit without realising it? Do you think I think England is racism free? You just jumped the gun because I stated that did I not know England I’d get a very black and white idea of what it’s like to live there from that article, probably written by someone who’s never lived there.
Of course it’s full of racists, it’s a world wide phenomenon. White nationalism is a big thing in Europe at the moment, and England has its fair share of cunts. Since the whole brexit thing hate crime has drastically gone up, because many people mistake leaving the European Union with hating forreigners and wanting to “protect our land and heritage”. “Oh cool brexit confirms my hatred”.
Don’t take me for a fool, big. I haven’t been this pissed off here since mo wanted to kill my family.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2020-01-11 15:24 [#02592963]
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t'ammazzo la famiglia e' slang del palazzo :)
sei della gang e ti lamenti
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big
from lsg on 2020-01-11 16:07 [#02592966]
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The author is British and wrote a book 'On Race, Identity and Belonging.'
I guess i can understand not wanting to be read the lesson by yankees, I'm sure it was published in the NYT for reasons. Here I have think here about this author, who wrote an incredible book on race and the Netherlands, she first published it in English, in the US, because she suspected Dutch publishers wouldn't dare to take it on. In the Dutch publication that did get out now, she explains all the fragility the English book in the Netherlands brought up (I can't and don't want to talk for her, but it's akin to the Robin DiAngelo video: people just can't think beyond the personal. So, like, they think she wrote a scientific book of great insight just because she was slighted some time on the street, you know).
I guess you are knowlegable on this subject, but I thought you attacked the article on weak grounds, so that's how I got to fragility. That was probably the wrong conclusion.
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wavephace
from off the chain on 2020-01-11 16:14 [#02592967]
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Racism is just a symptom of the real problem: whiteness. To end racism we need to exterminate whiteness
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-01-11 17:00 [#02592968]
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always capitalize the word Racist.
RESPECT.
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RussellDust
on 2020-01-11 17:01 [#02592969]
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What lesson? Sorry, are you trying to give me a lesson you silly arrogant man?
Anyway you keep coming at me and I just don’t get it. I guess you need to always find someone whose “ignorant” unlike you, mr humanity.
I don’t like being judged by some guy who’s never had a conversation with me.
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big
from lsg on 2020-01-11 17:05 [#02592970]
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You were angry about this being published in the New York Times, no? In you very first post.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2020-01-11 17:16 [#02592971]
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really are we talikng about drama
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2020-01-11 17:17 [#02592972]
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i need to take a shit
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-01-11 17:21 [#02592973]
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this thread really highlights the pivotal role of white feelings in the Racism controversy
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big
from lsg on 2020-01-11 17:29 [#02592974]
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I disgreed and expressed that. I explained myself as well as possible. You make it all out to be enless attacks and me wanting to feel superior in all kinds of ways.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2020-01-11 17:36 [#02592975]
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yes ahe is teatrized for that
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2020-01-11 17:40 [#02592976]
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i wanted to go to chinatown tonight putting the the timezone palestine trousers full of rhombous repairs and black shirt cos i fear id duplicate a shoting in el paso my love
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2020-01-11 17:41 [#02592977]
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thruthisi everithing is the caritas for zakaria
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2020-01-11 17:42 [#02592978]
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no smoke near kids that sell
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RussellDust
on 2020-01-11 17:50 [#02592979]
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LoL
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RussellDust
on 2020-01-11 17:51 [#02592980]
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I love you, big; but my gosh you rubbed me the wrong way!
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2020-01-11 21:19 [#02592989]
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Black women have the sweetest tasting fannys, Asian the most aromatic.
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