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See? Would a Racist know these facts? England: not Racist |
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race is a huge sociatal trauma. you can't subjucate peoples without that leaving a mark, on both sides. for the oppressors side, they have to deal with the guilt somehow. coming to face with it, is a big first step. too big a step for most. it doesn't help with that, then, that our entire culture seems one big defense mechanism for looking away and lulling us into thinking we're okay. the best in fact, so that's why we just can go on, for instance, with these colonial wars, with drones, diplomacy and the old fashioned kind Trump favors. and we say black and brown people are just mistaking when they're bringing up racism. or they're told, the ugly liberal way, that they should bring their message nicely, thus putting the onus on them. us never changing, them always having to explain themselves they're people too. |
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it's cute when people like roger get offended by social realities because they are unable to perceive the world beyond the comfort of their self-righteous little navel how can racist patterns and structures possibly be real if i think of myself as a fundamentally decent person your heart's in the right place, you're just an idiot with an ego |
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Alright, meta-human, I know you've fucking sublimed into the stratosphere above mere mortals and their need to have a job. |
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megxit ep |
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polygarchy |
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i do sympathise, i wish you too would have found a way to not have the world eat away your neurons |
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"posh man feels sad" is not news. bring back the guillotine |
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today's thot: enjoying the enemy of your friend suffer pain and vengeance is a form of empathy. how movies set you up to be all "yeahhh!" when a bullet goes through the bad guy's kidney but physically wince when a main character is unexpectedly shot |
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bootlicker |
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does anyone like Suits? i actually watched two seasons but i'd be hard pressed to find a show that's more cliched |
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i like how hardcore dude likes the same MTV shows as that i did. (i mean: reality tv is better than Suits. i don't think Suits disliking is too controversial here.) |
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the.. punk rock.. mba |
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why is there no White Britons thread 😤 |
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eh eh he's just so wholesome |
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tony knocks it out the park with the boomer jokes |
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I still maintain that I’m not “looking away”, big. Part of your attitude towards me (ie defining me) has really pissed me off. |
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i made a general statement and i'm leaving it at that |
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this statement refers to itself, as well as your previous statement. |
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never mind what you're arguing, if you've posted a statement and are leaving it at that, posting about this afterwards does rather ruin the gravitas |
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also the Suits statement |
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impressive display of |
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You still won’t accept that you judged me as being someone who minimises racism in the Uk, and went on to “teach me a lesson”. But hey why question yourself? Because you’re too busy pointing fingers that’s why. |
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which fingers |
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Index. |
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the virgin piers and the chad harry |
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i've engaged you, despite your endless mean personal attacks, but that's been enough |
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Here I said some sort of apology: "I guess you are knowlegable on this subject, but I thought you attacked the article on weak grounds, so that's how I got to fragility. That was probably the wrong conclusion." But you didn't read that because you were bezerking over 'lesson', this lesson: "I guess i can understand not wanting to be read the lesson by yankees, I'm sure it was published in the NYT for reasons. " So I can clarify with above quote that I mean fragile when it comes to race issues. But it's hard to keep it apart, because you are fragile, you can't take criticism. You're not able to think 'Well, that's just his opinion". |
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Also I'll point out this apology: "I love you, big; but my gosh you rubbed me the wrong way!" Which reads: "I'm sorry I was mean, but it's your fault!" |
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I didn't accuse you of being someone "who minimises racism in the Uk" But maybe you are part of the problem, because my whole point is that racism is a system to which people knowingly and unknowingly add, but not with the direct actions people still imagine, with bad words and stuff. But that's not what this started about, because it just started with me disagreeing about the merits of the article. |
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aw cmon guys this is xltronic, can't we just gang up on roger wilco like usual agree to disagree and give each other a sloppy wet kiss |
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Well, I'm just glad we've contributions from white people in Canada, Switzerland, France (of all fucking places) and wherever Big's from (Lechtenstein?) harping on about white people all being racist and they don't even know they are and how worrying it is that they might get defensive about being accused of something that has fuck all to do with them personally. Meanwhile in India, Africa, the Middle East, China, Russia, Israel... No racism. Why can't we be more like *them*? |
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what have you been accused of you big baby |
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No, it means I’ve always like you, but that by trying to make me out to be “part of the problem” really rubs me the wrong way. If I was to point out that I learnt how not to judge people by their race as a kid in England, that there’s also always been an inclusive side, doesn’t mean I minimise or condone the racism, bigotry, hatred, or homophobia to name some of the issues society and the world is facing. Yeah it’s far more important to talk about the issues at hand, but all I was pointing out is that I felt like the article wasn’t totally hitting England on the head. It’s ridiculous reasoning to believe that if i point out there’s some good then I mean there’s no bad. At risk of repeating myself: racism is an issue in the UK, and pretending it isn’t there or minimising it is not something I’ve ever expressed. I’m against firearms but it doesn’t mean I think everyone in the US loves guns and shooting people. You just come across as a well meaning yet pretentious and judgemental person, which is a shame. You can think what you want of me, I really don’t care anymore. You don’t know me and you seem to be the kind guy waiting to pounce at any time. For the greater good of humanity of course. |
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I should agree with him that I’m a racist, or a minor racist, or someone “part of the problem”? This guy doesn’t know me and forms an opinion that he’s totally blowing out of proportion and that I find offensive. I know people like him and I find them arrogant and insufferable. What I find astonishing is that he really means well. |
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big, would you define England as a “racist nation”, or would you define it as a nation with a worrying amount of racism, and a growing trend towards nationalism? It just seems silly to point a country out and declare it racist in an article. It’s all I’m trying to say ffs. Maybe on the day I wasn’t reading it with the right frame of mind, I don’t know. But from an initial comment you started to define me according to your little charts in your head. It’s not cool, man, to define someone so aggressively. “We were going to England for our holidays but had to cancel as it’s a racist nation you know...” |
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Connect four! Good night! |
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interesting vid, not saying we don't have racists, but would suggest its at a lower level than currently being suggested |
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battle of bamber bridge |
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i think it would be rather strange to not call what was a hundred years ago the largest colonial empire in history a racist country |
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racism is not a personal flaw my bro it's a social system |
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Are there any non-racist countries? |
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nah |
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It occurs to me, perhaps because as a child of Europe I am endowed with the Enlightenment value of Reason, that if everyone is Racist... maybe that means no one is?? In which case, why are you picking on England? Jealous?? 😂 |
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I cant argue against that, all I know that the vast majority of people I know have never come across as racist to me, but there are deffo pockets of little Englanders who still have the attitude that the British Empire never ended, but we certainly don't have a monopoly on racism |
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Whats weird about round where I live, there are loads of Georgian era houses built on the back of the procedes of the north atlantic slave trade |
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Beautiful houses but the abject misery the represent, I guess most people wouldn't connect the two |
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interesting map |
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100 Golden Racist Posts ! |
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