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offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-01-10 01:09 [#02592896]
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LAZY_TITLE


 

offline RussellDust on 2020-01-10 16:47 [#02592912]
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Yes it’s well known that the UK is terrible with its black
community compared to the US....

What a shit article, basically citing tabloids and saying
“hey look at England!”.


 

offline big from lsg on 2020-01-10 19:04 [#02592914]
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Nah, it's a good way of exposing underbelly, overt racism.

Underbelly, overt racism as opposed to institutional racism,
which the article (an opinion piece, btw) goes into as well
(maybe you have to scroll further down for that)


 

offline big from lsg on 2020-01-10 19:21 [#02592915]
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Oh, and a whataboutism as well


 

offline big from lsg on 2020-01-10 19:31 [#02592916]
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I now realize you're saying she went from a rock to a hard
place. But I'm pretty sure it's worse than anyone really can
imagine.


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2020-01-10 20:06 [#02592917]
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Straight outta Compton
Crazy motherfucker named Meghan
From projects to the palace
Now I’m back again
Pack a glock when I go fox hunting
Cos the royal motherfuckers need culling


 

offline RussellDust on 2020-01-10 20:06 [#02592918]
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Yeah the British tabloids excel at it, but the British
tabloids don’t represent the UK, unlike what the article
is trying to say.


 

offline RussellDust on 2020-01-10 20:07 [#02592919]
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“Maybe you have to scroll down...”

God you can be patronising.


 

offline RussellDust on 2020-01-10 20:17 [#02592920]
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Have you lived in England much, big?


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2020-01-10 20:20 [#02592921]
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Is she mixed race? Don’t know owt about her tbh and
thought she was white until this thread.


 

offline Roger Wilco from Mo's Beans on 2020-01-10 22:55 [#02592927]
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"Britain’s communities of color,"... Who the fuck talks
like this? Apart from aggrieved professional victims that
work in either academia or the media, most people just want
to get along. And do get along. If this country was such a
hotbed of steaming RACISM there'd be riots. But hey, it
sells New Yorker articles and music by that closet poof
Stormzy


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-01-10 23:01 [#02592930]
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have to say I agree with Roger on this one, there is
probably some racist people who don't like her for that
reason, but by in large I think a lot of people don't like
her cos she is a drawing massive attention to herself in the
media and doesn't kotow to royal protocol, I don't care
myself this is just the vibe I get from people like my mum
who follows this crap,


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-01-10 23:02 [#02592931]
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I think it could genuinely be much more to do with her being
American, and seen as uncouth and vulgar rather than race


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2020-01-11 00:06 [#02592936]
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theyre not that into the social tissue arent they


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-01-11 00:55 [#02592938]
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I think it's OK to be Racist against royalty.


 

offline big from lsg on 2020-01-11 01:19 [#02592939]
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there's a big grey bar and i thought it stopped there for a
second


 

offline big from lsg on 2020-01-11 01:23 [#02592940]
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and your comment was bad. everyone knows about tabloids, yes


 

offline big from lsg on 2020-01-11 01:35 [#02592941]
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i agree there's a lot of links to the daily mail. i disagree
the article is bad


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2020-01-11 06:48 [#02592945]
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didn't read but am enjoying the piercing insights by this
board's greatest political intellects itt


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2020-01-11 06:49 [#02592946]
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it's not racism that kills its people with racisms


 

offline wavephace from off the chain on 2020-01-11 07:09 [#02592947]
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It was racist for Harry to marry Meghan in the first place
because the royal family are literally welfare queens and
Meghan becoming a welfare queen reinforces harmful canards,
myths, tropes, and stereotypes about women of color being
welfare queens (which they aren't). Also the institution of
marriage itself is extremely problematic. At least they're
raising their kid NB though


 

offline big from lsg on 2020-01-11 09:02 [#02592949]
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pretty special people think a country like Britain isn't
racist, maybe watch this, while turning off your
defensiveness for a second

(kinda unrelated, here's a good doc i saw the other
day, that's about the police state (Britain but more largely
applicable) and so inevitably about institutional racism)


 

offline RussellDust on 2020-01-11 11:20 [#02592952]
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Fucking hell big...

Racism is a problem in the UK. It’s not a safe haven. What
I’m trying to say is that the tone of the article is a bit
extreme.


 

offline RussellDust on 2020-01-11 11:21 [#02592953]
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But hey let’s just look at it one way...


 

offline RussellDust on 2020-01-11 11:24 [#02592954]
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What comment was bad? Gosh you’re a passive aggressive
piece of work. I bet you think very highly of yourself.


 

offline Roger Wilco from Mo's Beans on 2020-01-11 12:29 [#02592955]
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Gee, totally non-racist woman repeatedly refers to the
"average white person"... Look at me being defensive,
I've proved her point!?!?.



 

offline Roger Wilco from Mo's Beans on 2020-01-11 12:43 [#02592956]
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The thing about being lectured to by a woman with a PHD in
Racism Studies, is that she'll "prove" your sorry racist ass
is racist, and show you that you don't even know what racism
is even though you're the living embodiment of racism. White
academics love racism, love it, it's the gift that keeps on
giving. Who isn't racist? Only have white friends? Racist.
In a mixed-race relationship? Racist, must be some colonial,
slave shit role play going on. Once looked disapprovingly at
some youth dropping his fried chicken bones onto the street,
the street where you live not him? Failed to take into
account systematic racism and 2000 years of trauma - Racist.
Took a black man's job? Racist. Gave a black man a job. Just
the one? Racist.


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-01-11 13:14 [#02592957]
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is england Racist? let's ask these middle aged white nerds


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-01-11 13:17 [#02592958]
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i read that as hand job at first glance, i was wondering if
you could masturbate somebody in a racist way


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-01-11 13:19 [#02592959]
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followup to roger not russ, obvs

anyway i'd feel like jeremy beadle

(Racist.)


 

offline big from lsg on 2020-01-11 13:27 [#02592960]
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Any (suspected) downplaying of racism just makes me hella
mad.

Saying the article is extreme is tone policing. I'd say just
look at what the article tries to get across. And don't
judge its methods: dismantling centuries of oppression and
collective gas lightning isn't easy. In the process of doing
that someone may sound harsh.

Roger Wilco: yes, that's the defensiveness. Good that you
spot it, now try to do something productive with it. Taking
in this information is a good first step.


 

offline big from lsg on 2020-01-11 13:27 [#02592961]
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hey!


 

offline RussellDust on 2020-01-11 15:05 [#02592962]
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I never downplayed racism! Are you looking for shit without
realising it? Do you think I think England is racism free?
You just jumped the gun because I stated that did I not know
England I’d get a very black and white idea of what it’s
like to live there from that article, probably written by
someone who’s never lived there.

Of course it’s full of racists, it’s a world wide
phenomenon. White nationalism is a big thing in Europe at
the moment, and England has its fair share of cunts. Since
the whole brexit thing hate crime has drastically gone up,
because many people mistake leaving the European Union with
hating forreigners and wanting to “protect our land and
heritage”. “Oh cool brexit confirms my hatred”.

Don’t take me for a fool, big. I haven’t been this
pissed off here since mo wanted to kill my family.


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2020-01-11 15:24 [#02592963]
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t'ammazzo la famiglia e' slang del palazzo :)

sei della gang e ti lamenti


 

offline big from lsg on 2020-01-11 16:07 [#02592966]
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The author is British and wrote a book 'On Race, Identity
and Belonging.'

I guess i can understand not wanting to be read the lesson
by yankees, I'm sure it was published in the NYT for
reasons. Here I have think here about this author,
who wrote an incredible book on race and the Netherlands,
she first published it in English, in the US, because she
suspected Dutch publishers wouldn't dare to take it on. In
the Dutch publication that did get out now, she explains all
the fragility the English book in the Netherlands brought up
(I can't and don't want to talk for her, but it's akin to
the Robin DiAngelo video: people just can't think beyond the
personal. So, like, they think she wrote a scientific book
of great insight just because she was slighted some time on
the street, you know).

I guess you are knowlegable on this subject, but I thought
you attacked the article on weak grounds, so that's how I
got to fragility. That was probably the wrong conclusion.


 

offline wavephace from off the chain on 2020-01-11 16:14 [#02592967]
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Racism is just a symptom of the real problem: whiteness. To
end racism we need to exterminate whiteness


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-01-11 17:00 [#02592968]
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always capitalize the word Racist.

RESPECT.


 

offline RussellDust on 2020-01-11 17:01 [#02592969]
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What lesson? Sorry, are you trying to give me a lesson you
silly arrogant man?

Anyway you keep coming at me and I just don’t get it. I
guess you need to always find someone whose “ignorant”
unlike you, mr humanity.

I don’t like being judged by some guy who’s never had a
conversation with me.


 

offline big from lsg on 2020-01-11 17:05 [#02592970]
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You were angry about this being published in the New York
Times, no? In you very first post.


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2020-01-11 17:16 [#02592971]
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really are we talikng about drama


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2020-01-11 17:17 [#02592972]
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i need to take a shit


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-01-11 17:21 [#02592973]
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this thread really highlights the pivotal role of white
feelings in the Racism controversy


 

offline big from lsg on 2020-01-11 17:29 [#02592974]
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I disgreed and expressed that. I explained myself as well as
possible. You make it all out to be enless attacks and me
wanting to feel superior in all kinds of ways.


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2020-01-11 17:36 [#02592975]
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yes ahe is teatrized for that


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2020-01-11 17:40 [#02592976]
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i wanted to go to chinatown tonight putting the the timezone
palestine trousers full of rhombous repairs and black shirt
cos i fear id duplicate a shoting in el paso my love


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2020-01-11 17:41 [#02592977]
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thruthisi everithing is the caritas for zakaria


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2020-01-11 17:42 [#02592978]
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no smoke near kids that sell


 

offline RussellDust on 2020-01-11 17:50 [#02592979]
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LoL


 

offline RussellDust on 2020-01-11 17:51 [#02592980]
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I love you, big; but my gosh you rubbed me the wrong way!


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2020-01-11 21:19 [#02592989]
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Black women have the sweetest tasting fannys, Asian the most
aromatic.


 


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