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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2010-06-14 22:19 [#02384046]
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if they are saying "fuck you" then why would they be saying it to the fans. if its just humor then its obviously towards people trying to sound like them. like, "this is what you sound like when you try to sound like us". in a track like etchogon i get the feeling that even if they are making fun of someone they really bring it home in the end and make a clear picture out of it. or maybe i'm crazy, i dont know.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2010-06-14 22:22 [#02384047]
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no ones laughing at you its just music
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Terence Hill
from Germany on 2010-06-14 22:23 [#02384048]
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60 seconds of reverb is the new amen break
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2010-06-14 22:25 [#02384049]
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holy shit nth dafuseder on repeat
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NIL-0
from trans pennine express on 2010-06-14 22:29 [#02384052]
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M62 is a fitting tribute
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Barcode
from United Kingdom on 2010-06-14 22:31 [#02384054]
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M1 more like, sounds like a road crash
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2010-06-14 22:37 [#02384055]
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hahahah thanks for the lolz.
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NIL-0
from trans pennine express on 2010-06-14 22:39 [#02384056]
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for a smug cunt whose often spouting pseudo zen shite, you dont half sound like a needy teenager with issues anytime theres an autechre release
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Barcode
from United Kingdom on 2010-06-14 22:50 [#02384060]
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nah, just havin a laugh, shame you're an up your own arse fanboy with no sense of humour
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cx
from Norway on 2010-06-14 23:08 [#02384069]
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The most glaring example of it being a joke was bnc Castl. After the heavy srs stuff they did and with the titles etc as sadist said, it was a surprise to hear something like a toy factory being torn down or something.
The same feeling kind of came around when Oversteps was released.. I mean.. These synths.. BELLS?!? Okay. Not exactly Pen Expers or Bine.. But alright.
But isn't that kind of what makes Ae great? How many confields or drafts after another would be exciting before it would be boring?
In the end they always do the weird mindfuck sounds, and Oversteps and Move of Ten are just as full of mindfuck as Confield or Draft was.. They are true futurists in that they always seem to evolve.. Took me some time to let go of the past and move into the future, but I'm glad I did.
MoT is full of great sounds and nice moods, as well as fucked up rhythms.. Those tracks specifically the ones I listed earlier are top notch! FOr me anyway. Sadist let GOOO of the past.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2010-06-14 23:10 [#02384070]
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doubt its "a joke" and more so just "humor" ?
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Guybrush
from the white room on 2010-06-14 23:12 [#02384071]
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jesus wept..
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2010-06-14 23:28 [#02384076]
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okay it's maybe not a joke.
but that humour thing is exactly what i'm talking about. they have the right to make fun of themselves and their music but it just crushes the whole image.
i liked it more when they seemed to be lifeless computer controlled machines from space creating weird 5th dimensional alien algorhytmic tracks with gear made out of awesomenium.
now you can clearly see they are just humans.
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Barcode
from United Kingdom on 2010-06-14 23:34 [#02384077]
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so the image is more important to you than the music. that's autechre all over, like a book with no pages, they only sell you the cover.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2010-06-14 23:38 [#02384078]
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lol dude! i just coughed my bong reading this
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2010-06-14 23:40 [#02384079]
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regardless of all that its just such visual music, i get so many mental images from their stuff that it makes me insane. with the oversteps stuff i get this kinda vibe, and , this, this, and this .
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2010-06-14 23:41 [#02384080]
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i wasnt really smoking a bong. that image isnt right for today. its matured i think.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2010-06-14 23:44 [#02384081]
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nice to hear 24bit y7
the acid squelch is every bit if not more satisfying than traele
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2010-06-14 23:46 [#02384082]
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not the image but the feeling it creates. i'll listen to the album nontheless and probably like it. it just won't have that impact.
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Barcode
from United Kingdom on 2010-06-14 23:57 [#02384084]
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art would have so much more relevance if we hadn't a clue of the creator
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2010-06-15 00:02 [#02384085]
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exactly my point
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Greg Reason
from Brisbane (Australia) on 2010-06-15 00:05 [#02384086]
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Fuck it's funny how often people pull out the "they've sounded the same for ten years" shtick. Listenin real hard huh
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Barcode
from United Kingdom on 2010-06-15 00:09 [#02384087]
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not the same, a lot worse
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2010-06-15 00:19 [#02384090]
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Haven't heard the whole album yet, but fucking hell.. nth Dafuseder.b is fucking incredible. rew(1) really loud is immense.
I'm enjoying this a hell of a lot more than Oversteps.
Barcode, stop being suck a dildo dog. This release has some clear examples of them putting the ae flavor back into 2010.
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cx
from Norway on 2010-06-15 00:20 [#02384091]
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we all see things differently, but you are missing a lot of good stuff that you COULD maybe like.
I can list at least 10 classic tracks from quari/oversteps/move that i love. I'm not expecting everyone to love these, but to me they are awesome and I wish everyone would see that.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2010-06-15 00:45 [#02384094]
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My 2 word track review of 'Move of Ten'.
1. Etchogon-S - bit silly. 2. y7 - kinda boring. 3. pce freeze 2.8i - heavy, good. 4. rew(1) - fucking immense! 5. nth Dafuseder.b - best track. 6. iris was a pupil - majestic, oversteppy. 7. no border - very boring. 8. M62 - kinda whatever. 9. ylm0 - interesting, oversteppy. 10. Cep puiqMX - really good.
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Barcode
from United Kingdom on 2010-06-15 00:53 [#02384096]
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In truth, if you enjoy it good for you. Personally I think they did some interesting stuff a loooooong time ago, but electronic music caught up rendering them completely irrelevant, not to mention boring as hell, but music is entirely subjective; other than banter it's not worth going ape about.
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Terence Hill
from Germany on 2010-06-15 00:55 [#02384097]
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what's relevant bro?
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Terence Hill
from Germany on 2010-06-15 01:01 [#02384098]
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rew1 is so good it keeps crashing my iPod, i kid not.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2010-06-15 01:02 [#02384099]
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ive never dared review an album (negatively) after mere hours of listens!!
impossible to absorb new material that quick imho.
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Barcode
from United Kingdom on 2010-06-15 01:12 [#02384101]
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Sorry, the word impotent would be more appropriate.
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Terence Hill
from Germany on 2010-06-15 01:15 [#02384103]
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what's the good, potent, interesting stuff?
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Barcode
from United Kingdom on 2010-06-15 01:48 [#02384110]
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Not gonna happen. Suffice to say, Autechre's key selling point is/was technology, now everyone has access to that technology their value is completely diluted. Someone else put it to me a lot more succinctly. If Autechre came out 'now' as brand new artists - bye bye, no one would ever know they came and went.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2010-06-15 01:57 [#02384111]
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so you're saying the SNR has decreased ... not necessarily the talent
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2010-06-15 01:58 [#02384112]
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"true artists/designers - surrender! even my mom has a copy of photoshop!"
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2010-06-15 02:04 [#02384114]
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"If Autechre came out 'now' as brand new artists". The FACT is they haven't come out now and are not brand new artists, so whoever put that to you is as stupid as you.
Everyone knows your opinion is worthless/uninteresting or Barcode magazine wouldn't be the flop that it is.
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jnasato
from 777gogogo (Japan) on 2010-06-15 02:27 [#02384122]
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This thread is a wonderful example of opinions skating on the border between love and hate; opinions flying back and forth between deepest ends based on whims, with ridiculous amounts of internal philosophy, trying to balance external aesthetic, with perceived artist intentions, with back catalogue consideration, with label and future considerations...
Oh, man- it's dense.
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2010-06-15 02:35 [#02384125]
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"Suffice to say, Autechre's key selling point is/was technology"
That's a total load of bullshit. Their selling point has always been their composition. Technology is just a means to that end.
Haven't been home to check out the album yet but I'm looking forward to it
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2010-06-15 02:46 [#02384127]
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let's get back on topic
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2010-06-15 02:52 [#02384130]
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back on topic.. yeah.. i want to blow my ears out with rew1.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2010-06-15 02:57 [#02384133]
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Exactly! What is the best way to treat a room for track 3. pce freeze 28i from 1:38 to 1:42 on a hot day if you have a bit of flu.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2010-06-15 03:01 [#02384136]
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lazy_setup
missing a few other panels in the group shot but been a great night so far!!
but now im on headphones and still going strong
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2010-06-15 03:03 [#02384137]
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id kill to hear nth' d at a night out certainly has the forward energy going
but that background atmosphere sound in a club? ... trojan horsed
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cx
from Norway on 2010-06-15 04:02 [#02384143]
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I guess you just don't get it.. There were a lot of electronic artists back in the 90s.. The reason Ae became popular was because of their musicality, compositions, ideas and how they used the technology.
The fact is a lot of people have been touched on an emotional level by their music, not just some intellectual level.. In fact I propose 99% of ae fans care only about the emotional level and not the analytical technical level.
Just read most threads on here or watmm about new ae releases.. Most people talk in emotional terms.
Not to say that technical level doesn't heighten emotional impact, it does.. But very few people listen without being emotionally engaged, and that was always ae's selling point.
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2010-06-15 04:45 [#02384144]
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after 2 listens:
It's good. Doesn't really come close to the high water mark of Confield/Gantz graf (imo), but that's alright. Nice companion piece to Oversteps.
pce freeze, nth Daufesder, and Etchogon are the immediate standouts.
I found it a bit more enjoyable when i took the headphones off and put it on some really loud speakers.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2010-06-15 04:47 [#02384146]
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Autechre: Emo Pioneers
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Greg Reason
from Brisbane (Australia) on 2010-06-15 05:18 [#02384147]
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Yep. I couldn't give a fuck what kit they use I just enjoy the fuck out of their stuff. Especially Draft and Quaristice.
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jnasato
from 777gogogo (Japan) on 2010-06-15 05:29 [#02384150]
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In this day and age, live instrument performance is high-tech as shit. Like imagine a 17-person jazz group playing improv bebop for 1 hour, where the climax comes as they all peak on shrooms and e.
Fuckin' alien shit. I'm pretty sure they'd be albe to levitate.
Like when Richard Devine learns how to play all his shit in realtime with a handful of sticks, THEN he will be phuture.
Everything other than purely live electronic music is child's play.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2010-06-15 05:33 [#02384151]
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im like 5 or 6 listens in, its just better every time
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2010-06-15 05:46 [#02384154]
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"Everything other than purely live electronic music is child's play. "
then go "child's play up" something as masterfully sequenced as drukQs or Draft and go live in a bank. Yeah, that's what I thought.
I don't understand how one could place more importance on any technique over the experience of the final composition itself. I appreciate "skill" as much as anybody, but I listen to music for the "creative download" of it, not to watch somebody's hands tweaking some knobs or playing some drums-- that's far less interesting.
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