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Gimme some good reading fo the weekend. Heres some tips Scott Smith's "A Simple Plan" Anthony Burgess' "A Clockwork Orange" Stephen King's "On Writing - A Memoir of the Craft" Paulo Coelho's "The Alchemist" Louis-Ferdinand Celine's "Journey to the End of the Night" Antoine De Saint-Exupery's "The Little Prince" Katherine Dunn's "Geek Love" Bret Easton Ellis' "American Psycho" Joyce Carol Oates' "Zombie" John Fowles' "Magus" Richard Dooling's "Brainstorm" Yamamoto Tsunetomo's "Hagakure: The Book of the Samurai" Voltaire's "Candide" Gregory Maguire's "Wicked: The Life and Times of the Wicked Witch of the West" Clive Barker's "Thief of Always" The bible |
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whats your favs? |
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Ohhh I forgot "The Art Of War" and Chuck Ds "Fight The Power" will add more good stuff soon.. |
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Read Niall Griffiths 'Sheepshagger'. I just bought his first novel 'Grits'. He's amazing. I know its an obvious one but Ken Kesey's 'One flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest' is amazing. Irvine Welsh's 'Trainspotting' is one of the best I've read too. Also Tom Wolfe's 'A Man in Full' is class. |
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Ahhhh great topic.... Here are a few of my Fav's: Irvine Welsh - Glue Hunter s. Thompson - Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas Orson Scott Card - Enders Game Alexandre Dumas - The Count of Monte Cristo Steven King - The Stand : The Complete and Uncut Edition Timothy Zahn - Star Wars: Thrawn Trilogy Just to name a few....=) |
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Huxley-Brave New World Kerouac-On the Road Burroughs-Junky Irvine Welsh-Maribou Stork Nightmares Nicholas Saunders-E for Ecstacy Camus-The Outsider |
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Iron Lung: weren't you disappointed with Glue? |
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WHoah!!! thanx Ironlung!! great suggestions, im outta here!!! rolling to the library right now...CYA! :) (Hunter s. Thompson - Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, everybodys talking about this one, havent seen the movie etither). |
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actually I meant FILTH...I am SO SORRY, it was his best/sickest work yet. Yes, I was mistaken, I WAS dissapointed with Glue...It was the last one I read and I didnt care for it much.... FILTH = Excellent Glue = So So Thanks Jonesy...its been a long night=) |
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sophies world-jostein gaardner(i found it hard going, but worth the perserverance) the dharma bums-jack karouac (a privalege to read) life after god-douglas coupland (touching) christine-steven king (just a great story with great characterisation) wind up bird chronicles-haruki murakami (a thousand stories all in one) -norweigian wood-murakami- im well into this man at the moment, he tells a great story and uses great imagery.. pete mcarthy-mcarthys bar, (never been to ireland-reading this makes me wanna go..) nice photo archrival!!! |
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fuck, I typed a mile long list and my connection snapped... oh, well, here we go again: Watership down Julio Cortasar's short stories collections Borhes' short stories Thomas Dish's Camp Concentration Max Stirner's The only one and his property Gateway by Frederick Pohl Neuromancer by William Gibson All by Nietzsche loved Remarque, Hemingway and Traven when I was a kid Besnilo by Bora Pekic Fama o Biciklistima by Svetislav Basara Baudrillard - all ... Oh, well, I'could probably go on forever |
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Doug Coupland - Life After God ... (is his best & my personal fave, but the rest are very good as well)... Chuck Paulaniuk "Choke" or "Fight Club" or "Invisible Monsters" or "Survivor"... Brett Easton Ellis - Someones mentioned American Psycho so go for "Glamourama"...His early books are very good as well if you like that 80s nilistic LitBratPack thing (Jay Mcinery are all that)..- Less Than Zero, The Rules of Attraction... If you like "One Flew Over.." by Ken Kesey then you probably like "The Elctric Kool Aid Acid Test" by Tom Wolfe - it's the story of Kesey & his experiments with LSD... Dave Eggers - "A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius" - Over Hyper a bit but a fucking good read and Style-wise, way up there....The McSweeneys Journal/Website by the same is very cool if you like modern US Lit... I could go on, I basically live in a library...or so it seems sometimes... |
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grug |
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has anyone heard of the author Wil Self |
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Heard of Will Self...good guy..."My kind of Psychosis" etc... Wonder if he's off the Smack nowadays?...He got caught doing it in the Toilet of a Plane during an Election contest...not that wise to shoot up in the midst of the Conservative Party... but funny...hell yeah!! I was cheering him on... |
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"The Elctric Kool Aid Acid Test" ...is really cool.....Kindy cheesy, but it was cool. |
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fuck! well reminded jand-i forgot easton ellis!! glamorama is ace-great story, but american pyscho did it for me, that really fucked my head up for a while.. have our read any of his other stuff? i hear that the informers is a good read...???? |
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you read his tough tough toys for tough tough boys |
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How about some Carlos Casteneda? Or some Sartre (try Nausea)? |
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i saw a south bank show on will self couple of years ago-he owns an old disused lighthouse somewhere on the welsh coast and chills out there on weekends on his own. he said to get off the skag he had to acquire a fear of needles... |
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oh, yes, John F Szwed's Sun Ra biography Space is the place |
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didnt like 'girlfriend in a coma' mind-that was just rediculous. |
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KEN - yeah The Informers is pretty good (if a little thin compared to those 2), kinda fits in between AP & GL....Did you notice Patrick Bateman makes an appearance in GL?...(as well as "one of the Aphex Twins" ... I kid you not...)... I got AP when it was first published and it was so much trouble to get hold of - none of my local bookshops wanted to touch it & I had to go to 2 or 3 before I found someone who would order it for me...It's a fucking powerful book and so much better/deeper than the film (which was a kinda dissapointment for me...didn't think it really "got" the book at all...)... xf: nope, not that one..."Great Apes" is one I've read... |
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KEN...I think non-realist side & ending of GIAC puts some people off - but if you can get your head around that...it's one of his best...didn't like it so much first read thru but on subsequent reads, it's now one of my fave DC books... |
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Lars Saabye Christensen: Beatles |
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i agree-the first half of giac was class-good insight into the chracters, initially a great tale of love lost and waiting-and reminded me of generation x in many ways, but the ending just left me a bit like, 'oh..ok'. theres a great bit about climing up a hill and the earth was thick like dog food-thats a great image..i guess i should reread.. agree with the ap film, its good but farcical, a great performance, but not a good adaptation. my mate has the dvd and the director comments in a bonus interview that that was the angle she wanted..shame-could have been class-you know they're making ap 2? no joke!! |
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Frank Herbert's Dune books anything by Neil Gaiman A Game of Thrones - George R R Martin (better than LOTR imho) Enders Game - Orson Scott Card Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams His Dark Materials Trilogy - Philip Pullman Interview with the Vampire - Anne Rice The Reality Dysfunction - Peter F Hamilton |
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i heard Neuromancer was good but i just couldnt get into it, i didnt like his writing style. if you want to read some weird horror short stories get some H P Lovecraft books! |
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AP2...no, please...no...:(... Yeah, go for a Re-read...it's a bit of new DC style in GIAC but it does work well as long as you don't mind it seeming a bit unrealistic...it was a bit of a suprise when you read it the first time...I was the same as you thinking "mmm...ok"... |
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pantalaimon: yeah, I got this same problem with Gibson, but it only needs a little getting used to (after these other "straight" writers you mention...) SHit I can't believe I forgot Roger Zelazny's Creatures of Light and Darkness, as well as Philip K Dick's Ubik, Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldrich, A Scanner Darkly and so on... |
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btw A Game of Thrones by George R R Martin is a "must read" for anyone. Awesome book. |
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Roger Zelazny's Amber books are meant to be good. i need to get some Philip K Dick stuff, he's next on my list. oh and Isaac Asimov is good too, i loved the Foundation Trilogy |
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l o r d o f t h e r i n g s |
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i was going to mention Lord of the Rings but thats one of those "goes without saying" things isnt it. oh and did i mention A Game if Thrones was good? |
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I started Great Apes and Glamorama but had to put them down i just couldn't get into them. I read the Informers and Less Than Zero. He's good at giving you a view of US rich kids. |
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förresten ictroboy! jag tror jag hitta don artist om du vill veta. |
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Oh yeah reflex, Filth was brilliant. |
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I never had any problems with Gibson style...kinda Chandler-esque; that sort of world-weary detective thing of Film-Noir fame... "The Sky was the colour of a TV tuned to dead channel"...what a great first line.. That whole Neromancer series was good... But I think I enjoyed the Virtual Light/Iduro/All Tommorrow Parties ones even more (and the cover art on the Hardbacks is soooo cool...I've got a thing about Hardback books; expensive but worth it to read stuff as soon as it's published...I hate waiting for paperbacks to come out even if they are 1/2 the price).. Didn't like "The Difference Engine" tho at all - the one he did with Bruce Sterling (who I don't really rate fictio-wise...non-fiction he's ok)... |
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FUCK!!!! FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK!!! I can't believe I forgot Lord of The Rings. I'm such a dumbass, god, I'd kick my own ass If I could... btw, Amber is pretty cool and fun but if you want to read the essential zelazny, find Creatures of Light and darkness, Lord of Light and Dream Master. They kill, while Amber is just a pleasant read. |
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I just reread LOTR (last read it when I was 15 or something...)...loved it soooo much more this time around...was wasted on a younger me... "Less Than Zero" got mentioned on The Simpsons the other day...weird that they put Lit jokes in it but it made me laugh... |
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yep-and check this out jand for the WORSE sequel story ever...one of batemans ex highschool victims recovers from her ordeal after years of therapy and reaps revenge on the male population-she's pissed and wants 'even-in technicolor. what a terrible idea... |
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jand: I've seen the difference engine on textz.com, so, you don't think it's worth spending office internet budget and printer on? I liked the Neuromancer trilogy better than the other one (although it is also good), and I liked sterling's stories from the '80s (Mozart in Mirrorshades was ace) and his Islands in the net novel.... So? Oh, yeah, that opening line is one of my favourite ones. And i forgot Burroughs: Naked Lunch. That one's a killer |
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KEN...that sounds like the worst sort of sequel ever...argggh... meho...I didn't like it but your milage may vary as they say...not Gibson enough for me...(and probably the victorian angle didn't help...)... Mirrorshades is that CyberPunk anthology, yeah?...I've never seen that in a shop or I would def have bought... Burroughs..I like his life better, was really into all that Beat Gen thing of his, Kerouacs etc.. but never really liked his books/writing style...all that cutup lark was an interesting way of working but didn't produce much quality text...Cronenbergs Naked Lunch movie was pretty cool tho once you let go of all rational thought & let it flow... |
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I'm still sooo pissed at the idea of a AP sequel, would be better to film Glamourama (which would make an excellent movie if done right)...I wonder if BEE had anything to do with the writing...it really doesn't sound like it... |
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fuck! burroughs!! you read 'junky'? thats a great book-not read naked lunch yet-man there so much to read and such little time!!! one book ive always wanted to read but it really is a book that you need time foe is stephen hawkings brief history of time-id love to complete that before i pop off... |
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jand: well, i didn't like the film. too slow, too cheesy, and the book is a fucking delirium. And it's written more or less straight (as in no cut-up, no montage), kinda Hubert Selby meets Philip K. Dick Mirrorshades was an anthology I think, but I have never seen it either (well, I do live in Serbia...), but the story I mentioned was in one of our SF magazines and it was really great, along with some other of his stories... The most of other cyberpunk was written by wannabes wanking into their typewriters about exotic drugs, exotic technology and shit, wearing their mirrorshades on and listening to some electronic music I guess. But newer Bruce sterling shit is too much by numbers for me... |
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now glamorama would make a GREAT film-its such a great story-i reckon in the wake of sept 11th there will be an odd surge in terroist activity films-have read somewhere that there will be a film based on the events of sept 11th-might just be sick bullshit though. |
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ken: I've read other hawkings book (Black holes and baby universes or something like that) and, besides rad scientific ideas, it's complete crap: pathetic, PC, patronising style....... |
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no, in an interview ellis completely revoked the insinuation that he helped with the sequel-the last connection he had with ap is the fictional daily email drop ins from 'patrick bateman' to promote the film... |
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really meho? i dont know much about this area i must admit-d'you have any recommendations? its obviously such a broad area its difficult to know where to start-i just assumed that hawkings was the daddy of that particular field... |
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