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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-03-27 16:31 [#00145813]
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his latest book is called the business, not scifi, very witty as usual. haven't finished it yet.
look to windward, one of the best i've read.
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-27 16:31 [#00145814]
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Complicity was so cool....theres a film apparently but I doubt it'll work as well...
The Wasp Factory is a classic as well...
We have a fucking good taste on this board...if I do so myself...
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-03-27 16:34 [#00145819]
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that scene from the wasp factory in which his brother discovers those flies in the brain of that kid... so well written, it really gave me the creeps.
i saw a play of it last year, it was ok, but (as it was dutch) it totally lacked the scottish dialogues and all that.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-27 16:35 [#00145820]
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I saw a Complicity (most of it). Its got Sickboy from Trainspotting in it. It was lame.
I read Espedair Street and the Glass something. Both were pretty shit. The Crow Road I enjoyed though.
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-27 16:37 [#00145830]
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another book i love is the acid house-the first story is amazing..terrible film adaptation though.
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-03-27 16:38 [#00145833]
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i saw acid house the film.
it was disgusting.
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-27 16:43 [#00145841]
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yeah...my old dealer was watching that and I knew the Fly bit was coming up and had so much fun watching their faces....
priceless...:)...
The question remains tho...is Walsh a one trick pony?...will be interesting to see how long he continues...(Trainspotting is still by far his best work...and he'll def be remmebered for that...)...
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-03-27 16:45 [#00145847]
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i think it was the last scene right? the fly bit. took me completely by surprise. luckily i was pretty wasted already when i was watching it.
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-27 16:46 [#00145848]
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dunno-ive not really kept up since 'ecstasy'-what was filth like?? trainspotting is a classic book though. especially if you can forget the film whilst reading it...if that makes sense..
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-27 16:48 [#00145853]
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nah the last scene is the one with sickboy (dunno the actors name) getting struck by lightening whilst tripping...i think out of all the stories in the film, the 'soft touch' one is the best....
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-27 16:49 [#00145856]
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Filth was brilliant, not as good as Spotting of course. Don't bother with Glue.
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-27 16:49 [#00145857]
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the fly bit where he find his mum & dad doing odd stuff with Strapon & anal cavities...(I shouldn't have given it away...)...but ekkk...yuck...
I read TS well bfore the film so enjoyed both but they are very different...I so loved the scotch in it...didn't take long before you could hear the voice in your head, which was his intention I think...
I'm a ex/recovering whatver skaghead myself and that shit was very realistic and pretty accurate...good he saw the comedy in the situation as well, easy to be too dark with that subject...
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-27 16:50 [#00145860]
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That "Blind Cunt" story of his is well cool as well...what book is that in?...
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-27 16:51 [#00145863]
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hmv brum have it (filth) for 1.99 in the sale-i shall pick it up.
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-27 16:53 [#00145865]
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dunno jand-dont think blind cunt was in acid house???....
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-27 16:54 [#00145869]
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Yeah the dialogue sinks in and you definitely hear the voices - good device.
Ken: I'd definitely get it.
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-27 16:56 [#00145873]
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yeah-its like burgess's clockwork orange-once the dialogue works its way into you after a few chapters, you get more imagery with the characters...
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-27 16:58 [#00145878]
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I haven't read it. Is it good?
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-27 17:03 [#00145889]
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clockwork orange? yeah its smart-i enjoyed it-as i say the dialogue is a mix of sorta-russian, sorta gangster...wished id have read it before id seen the film.
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-27 17:05 [#00145891]
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im off now peeps, have a smart night-laters ;>
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-28 08:56 [#00146961]
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GOT IT LAST NIGHT JONESY!! (filth) for 1.99...am onto chap 3, can tell its gonna be a good un...
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-28 09:01 [#00146966]
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Yeah its good. Some sick shit in there so don't lend it to your gran.
I found out last night that my ex-landlord(left Jan 2002) who we lived in the same house with is a gangster with a very dark history.
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2002-03-28 09:03 [#00146969]
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FILTH = Welsh's best work easily....
LOL...IMO, but I am a sicko...=)
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-28 09:05 [#00146972]
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C'mon man, Trainspotting was better.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-03-28 09:12 [#00146986]
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The Beatles Anthology... it's got LOTS of pictures to hold my attention.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-28 09:14 [#00146988]
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I always stay away from auto/biographies but Shane McGowen's looks good. Anyone read it?
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-28 09:15 [#00146989]
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ive only read up to filth-outside of trainspotting, the acid house was the most impressive...
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2002-03-28 09:17 [#00146990]
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Hey Ophecks have you read that NEW Paul McCartney Bio?...If so, is it good?...I have been wanting to get it started ASAP...
Just curious....
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leftrightronic
on 2002-03-28 09:19 [#00146991]
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hmm a couple that immediately come to mind are:
The Holographic Universe, 1984, The Falcon and the Snowman.. anything by Arthur C. Clarke and Ray Bradbury
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-28 09:21 [#00146993]
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I remeber reading some of that book by Erik Von Daniken about aliens and the Aztecs and shit. Something of the gods it was called. Anyone read it.
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-28 09:33 [#00147009]
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mmnn new macca biog? ive read many years from now...that a good read..
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-28 09:41 [#00147023]
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Chariot of the Gods... was well popular at one stage, altho he's seen as a bit of loon nowadays...
Shane McGowans looks cool...not sure if the one I was fingering in Waterstones was the offical one tho, it was called "Shame Mcgowan? Isn't he dead yet?" or something similar anyway... good bit about Shane believeing you shoudl legalise Crack...
mmmmm....would make the weekend go with a swing I guess...
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leftrightronic
on 2002-03-28 09:42 [#00147025]
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the boys from brazil --excellent read!
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-28 09:44 [#00147026]
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I'm a sucker for a good Bio...
Marc Almonds - Tainted Life ...is very very good...loads of tales of producing albums on E and valium addiction and the like...
Boy Georges is's a good laugh as well...
Anything by Victor Bokris is cool - Wahol, Patti Smith, Burroughs etc...
And THE WARHOL DIARIES are a must read...Brett EE got so many of his AP style from Andy's Diary & Interview Magazine...(all that "Patrick is wearing Armani, Gucci Loafters" etc lark...)...
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-28 09:45 [#00147027]
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i got the bowie biog 'inside out' from hmv for 1.99 as well!! looking forward to readin the spiders from mars period bit...
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-28 09:47 [#00147029]
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jesus-i would never have made that connection-batemans observations are very warhol...
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-28 09:49 [#00147032]
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Interesting. What do you make of Warhol? I just write them them all off as pretentious wankers. A bit unfair probably. I just don't get it.
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leftrightronic
on 2002-03-28 09:49 [#00147034]
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id love to find out more about warhol.. some character he was
i heard about these experimental films he made, like just taping some guy sleeping for hours.. stuffes , know about this?
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-28 09:50 [#00147036]
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Yeah, Chariots of the Gods. I got bored. Nice ideas though. Aztec alien spaceship runways and shit.
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-28 09:54 [#00147039]
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i think warhol was important for reaffirming an updated version of dada- he extended the duchamp tradition-like most great artists his influence of ideas etc is more important than his work...
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-28 09:54 [#00147040]
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soz that last post sounded WELL pretentious...
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-28 09:57 [#00147043]
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Ken: ha, ha. You're one of em.
Just kidding. I've never investigated art. Its never appealed to me really. I love photography though. There was this Manics exhibition in Cardiff with pictures by Picasso, Warhol and Pollock. They meant nothing to me. there were photos from Nam that were amazing though.
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leftrightronic
on 2002-03-28 09:58 [#00147044]
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i learned bit bout dada, fun shit that was.. the highest art possible they thoughts
they would recite shit to eachother, like words and letters they cut out and pasted together randomly and drone on and on, odd heh
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-28 10:04 [#00147048]
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i wrote my dissatation on minimilism in the early 60's so had to do alot of obvious research into influence of past movements-dada was fascinating..its had such a broad and heavy influence pn everything-from architecture throcht to furniture and music-its arguable that punk would not have existed in the way it did if it wasnt for punk
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-28 10:05 [#00147050]
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erm..dada..
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leftrightronic
on 2002-03-28 10:08 [#00147052]
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KEN: for everyone here that isn't quite as familiar with dada, give us a good rundown of it's aesthetics and style..
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-28 10:15 [#00147054]
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will do mate-just have to get on with some work at the mo ;>
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-28 11:20 [#00147115]
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Theres a great Warhol exhibition at the Tate Modern....I went the morning after that AFX gig at the Astoria...
Enjoyed it muchly, despite the drug fueled paranoia & total lack of sleep....:)..
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-28 11:24 [#00147121]
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RE: DADA...
Have you read LIPSTICK TRACES by Greil Marcus... the story of DADA & the Situationists as well...It's way up there on my TOP 10 list...
Futurism was another great movement that had a lot to do with DADA...
Am dreaming of doing an Art History course/degree but it seems all the rich kids go for this as it's seen as "easy"...go figure...I'm pretty well informed on the subject anyway but would be nice to have some actual academic grounding beyond my O Levels (left school at 16....so have learnt to educate myself to a certain extent...but nothing beats actually having to study full/part time...)...
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-28 11:27 [#00147124]
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Jand: respect to your self education. Its not easy finding time to learn when you're working.
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