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Gonzola
from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2002-03-27 12:28 [#00145513]
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albert camus - the stranger willam gibson - neuromancer
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-27 12:31 [#00145521]
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Vladimir Nabakov's Lolita was great.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-27 12:34 [#00145527]
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ken: well, i'm not an expert either, but Isac Asimov did it for me when I was younger. i just didn't like Hawking's style. He's such a bad writer, but this does not extend to his theories... I dare not speak of them, since I know so little.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-27 12:39 [#00145542]
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Didn't he MC on some of Cylob's records?
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-27 12:40 [#00145545]
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Oh, yeah, jonesy reminded me: Mihael Bulgakov's Master and Margarita is a fucking awesome book
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TrevorGod
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-03-27 12:41 [#00145550]
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My favourites are:
-Homer - Iliad/Odyssey -Virgil - Aeneid -James Joyce - Ulysses (my favourite book) -Apollonius Rhodius - Argonautica -Dante - The Divine Comedy -Tom Robbins - Fierce Invalids Home From hot climates -Charels Dickens - A Tale of Two Cities -Ernest Hemingway - The Old Man and the Sea -William S. Burroughs - Junky -Jack Kerouac - Big Sur -Irvine Welsh - Filth
I'm sure I forgot quite a few but that's the quick list.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-27 12:41 [#00145551]
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jonesy: is that some cruel non-PC joke aimed at physically challenged people?
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-27 12:42 [#00145553]
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What is it about? Is it theory or fiction?
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Chri5py
from my Solarbear (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-27 12:42 [#00145555]
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My Fav books are "Not now Bernard" and "There's a hippopotamus on our roof eating cake"
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-27 12:44 [#00145560]
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i thought cylob sampled a speak and spell for that track? oh well back to the book chat pls-this is great ;>
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-27 12:48 [#00145573]
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jonesy: are you referring to Hawking's book I mentioned? If yes, then it's part autobiographical ramblings, part PC crap, part theory (ina "popular science for morons" style, like: 'I'm as wideeyed and surprised as you kids, reading this. Gee, is universe a strange place...It is, it is indeed...')
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-27 12:50 [#00145578]
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im put off by the autobiographical ramblings already...
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-27 12:50 [#00145581]
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Meho: of course not. I'm PC to tha max.
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-27 12:54 [#00145588]
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im gonna read that bill hicks biography next 'the american scream'....
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-27 12:55 [#00145589]
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anyway, it has some bullshit about him not being an unhappy person despite his degenerating illness and putting some brave face on and stuff. He's pretending he's being just like anybody else, while everyone (including him) knows that's just new-age fecking dogshit. He is DIFFERENT and should be fucking aware of it (proud or sad, does'nt mean shit to me). People desperate to belong to the crowd (even if that crowd is the whole human race) put me off. But, I'll say this again: this does not mean I have any comments on his theories. I don't know enough...
Anyway, gotta go now, dutuy calls. Perhaps I see you later, boys, if not, please behave and see ya all tomorrow.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-27 12:57 [#00145592]
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Catch you later dude.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-27 12:58 [#00145595]
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I heard something about his wife beating him. What's condition has he by the way?
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2002-03-27 12:59 [#00145596]
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have a good day MEHO
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Archrival
on 2002-03-27 13:10 [#00145601]
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pantalaimon: "Interview with the Vampire - Anne Rice" Could you please tell me more abut that book, im very curious. Describe what that books about, I just heard a track called "Interview with the Vambire" by Raskass and it was amazing, I hope the book is as good :)
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-27 13:24 [#00145620]
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http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0345337662/qid=10172 35429/sr=2-3/ref=sr_2_3/104-7811808-2812737
i find amazon.com really useful in finding new books to read, its how i've came across most of the books i have.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-27 13:26 [#00145621]
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Archrival btw that link was for interview with the vampire, hope it helps
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-27 13:40 [#00145634]
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I dig Anne Rice as well...love her Gothic Homo-erotic style...and the film of Interview was very cool as well...even if they played down the obvious sexual side of the relationships therein...
Hawking has Motor Neurone disese...and yeah, there was something about his wife beating him....but it was hushed up...
I always thought he would make a good Davros (from Dr Who)...the resemblance in uncanny...on offence, of course..
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-27 13:43 [#00145640]
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And I belive a lot of his work is looked down on by a lot of phyicists...despite him being award the Physics Chair at Cambridge (as previously owned by Newton amoungst others)...
I never much like his writing style either...I have a MP3 audio book of A Brief History but it's not his speaknSpell voice...someother guy...
Big pity...that would have been sampling heaven...
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-27 13:45 [#00145643]
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And there is that MC Hawking track doing the rounds...more than one I believe...
Check http://www.mchawking.com/ ....
very cruel but funny (as is a lot of cruel humour...)...
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-27 13:47 [#00145646]
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That Naked Lunch movie is pretty autobiographal...i.e. Burroughs did shoot his wife (Joan) in a bizzare William Tell party trick....
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TrevorGod
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-03-27 13:48 [#00145647]
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There are physicists that look down on everything but their own ideas. Hawking is pretty much the most universally acclaimed physicist right now. I was actually taking Physics at university, until I ran out of money, and Hawkings theories are very highly regarded by most professors and students
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-27 14:25 [#00145672]
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really...I heard that a lot of his theories (apart from his early work) have had a lot of problems....
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-27 14:25 [#00145673]
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well, i dont know much about his theories-i get lost quite quick when it comes to the big bang/black hole theories. never good at thinking things through on that level-i was lost at school when it came to physics.
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TrevorGod
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-03-27 14:28 [#00145675]
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Pretty much every major theory has serious problems. Their purose is mostly to explore new ideas and then prove them wrong. They are theories afterall not laws.
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-27 14:32 [#00145678]
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im reading a book on planet wobbles at the moment-thats well smart, how astronormors have discovered planets outside of our solar system-the slight wobble suggests that they are rotating around a star-just reading about hot jupitars at the moment-they are fucking incredible...
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TrevorGod
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-03-27 14:37 [#00145681]
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There is some really amaizng science going on right now. We've got planet wobbles, superstrings, and blackholes,...
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-27 14:40 [#00145683]
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The big bang theory is pretty cool...but the name is very disceptive...as it wasn;t really an explosive...more like a ballon being blown up, if that makes sense...
New theories have now been dsicovered (to do with Multiple Universes, 11 dimensions) that have come up with a pretty well accpeted theory of the Big bang etc...as well as being able to look at things prior to the Big Bang (previously impossible...looking beyond that singularity)...
Check out the work on Hubble Deep Field as well, on the web...it enabled Phsycists/Astromers to view the Universe all the way back to the BB...
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-27 14:41 [#00145684]
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d'you know that the russains are planning to send a probe to europa to test for signs of microbiological lifrforms?? amazing-planned for 2004 or something. jupiter amazes me though-its so volatile-theres a famous 'eye' storm isnt there?- thirty times the size of the earth and its been going for an estimated 300 years!! mindblowing..
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-27 14:42 [#00145685]
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Did anyone see Room 101 with Patrick Moore? He was a right chauvanist and I could barely understand a word he uttered.
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-27 14:42 [#00145687]
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Superstrings are dead BTW...turned out they were a deadend...(there were 5 superstring theories)...all of which can now be explained as the outcome of a higherlevel theory....
PS I'm no Physics expert (by a long chalk) but I try to keep up with some of the more famous discoveries of late...
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-27 14:43 [#00145689]
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KEN...check CHAOS by Jame Gleick for some info on why that storm has been there so long...
Very great book (like most of Gleicks work...very easy to read also)...
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TrevorGod
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-03-27 14:47 [#00145693]
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Yeah... Superstrings were born and then died pretty fast. I'm jsut saying a lot of really interesting stuff has been hapening lately. Pretty much every theory we hear today will be shot down within 5 years (at the most). We just have to enjoy the theories and hope they make us think. The main purpose of a theory isn't to find answers by proving something correct but to prove that somehhing is incorrect. By eliminating all the impossible outcomes you will be left with the correct answer.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-27 14:48 [#00145696]
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WHY GO ROUND THE HOUSES?
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-27 14:56 [#00145700]
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cheers jand-much appreciated-has gleick published alot?? any other recommeendations? (have some waterstones birthday vouchers to use up!!)
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-27 15:07 [#00145712]
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Yeah, Gleick done a great bio of Richard Feynman, a book on Speed called FASTER (not the drug BTW)....probably others but my ZX81 RamPack is wobbling today and my mem is getting wiped every 5 mins...;)..
He's a fine writer...CHAOS has loads of stuff about Fractals etc as well...great pictures etc...
Also...OUT OF CONTROL by Kevin Kelly is my fave Pop Science book...it's subtitled "The New Biology of Machines"...
It's on Textz as well...if you wanna check it out...I had problems dling it before as it wasn't complete but theres enough there to get a good idea on whether you'll like it....
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BaronVonPickleF
from United States on 2002-03-27 15:22 [#00145723]
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Who will I ask when my stupid questions come up my first impulse is to call my mom up but then I'm standing there holding the telephone wishing his headache would leave me the hell alone the last thing I need is pain to fill my empty spaces and right now I feel pain in planty of places !!!!!!!!!!!!!!THE BARON HAS SPOKEN!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Xanatos
from New York City (United States) on 2002-03-27 15:25 [#00145728]
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Hitchhiker's Giude to The Galaxy other's that were already mentioned...
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BaronVonPickleF
from United States on 2002-03-27 15:27 [#00145730]
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I wanna go home and show off this weekend but I can't and it feels like I'm gonna go off the deepend it's painfull being here but it's unfit there my mothers gone away and it's not one bit fair !!!!!!!!THE BARON HAS SPOKEN!!!!!!!
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-27 15:28 [#00145733]
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nice one jand-have found those two on waterstones-chaos for 6.99 and out of control for 61.99-think ill give chaos a go first-thanks mate ;>
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-27 15:28 [#00145735]
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meant 16.99...
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-03-27 15:33 [#00145738]
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My favorite book is "The Crying of Lot 49" by Thomas Pynchon.
He's also written other some great books, like the imponderable "Gravity's Rainbow."
His newer books aren't that good though. :(
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raskolnikov
from Miami (Mexico) on 2002-03-27 15:47 [#00145746]
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dostoievsky "crime and punishment", "el sepulcro de los vivos" (i dont know the translation)
kafka..
pappini "Gog"
Juan Jose Arreola...
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-03-27 15:53 [#00145750]
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right now fearsum endjin by iain m. banks, but i have to read it again.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-27 16:21 [#00145793]
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I liked Complicity and the Wasp Factory. I read The Player of Games but sci-fi ain't my bag. Everything else I've read was pretty crap though.
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joey
from montréal (Canada) on 2002-03-27 16:28 [#00145809]
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tom robbins - fierce invalids home from hot climates. the guy is an absolute genius
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