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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2008-06-17 18:16 [#02216558]
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BTW you can take pictures/screenshots with the camera you find in the Nomad, and export them.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2008-06-17 18:19 [#02216560]
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One more pic, most of my other ones are spoilerish
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OK
on 2008-06-17 19:03 [#02216563]
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i waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaant
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QRDL
from Poland on 2008-06-17 19:23 [#02216564]
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Thanks Ophie. I'm sure I tried R2, but who knows... I'll check tomorrow. Too much work right now
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2008-06-18 03:37 [#02216586]
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I finished it last night. Awesome game and a fitting conclusion to the series (at least for Snake). The ending got a bit crazy as expected, but I did a little net research afterwards to make things a bit clearer.
It isn't a perfect game though. The boss fights are nowhere near as memorable as those from the original MGS and MGS3, despite the obvious wink to characters of past. The controls still don't feel 100% perfect either, especially when controlling the Metal Gear, which was a pain in the ass at times. Also, what purpose did Hal's MK2 robot serve when used as an item in game? Every time I tried to use it, he said the battery was about to go....
I loved returning to Shadow Moses Island though. As someone above wrote, I feel that if you didn't play the original, that section would totally go over most peoples heads, but for people who have followed the series over the last 10 years like myself, it was a brilliant and unexpected move. I actualy replayed the original MGS about a year ago on the PS2 and it is still by far the best from the series (though MGS3 and indeed MGS4 come pretty damn close).
I do kind of wish it was a little longer though. I think my total playtime was about 20 hours and at least half of that was cutscene cinematics. I died and replayed areas quite a bit too, so it would be interesting to know exactly how much gameplay there really is... but fuck it, MGS4 has always been like an interactive movie anyway and the action scenes are so intense, it's nice to catch your breath and watch the story unfold.
One question though: whos grave is snake visiting at the start of the game? It looks to be the exact same grave as the one where The Boss is burried, but AFAIK, he didn't know who The Boss was until Big Mama revealed it at the end.. or am I wrong?
Anyway, to conclude - great game! Not perfect in the same way that GTA4 wasn't perfect either, but definitely one of the best games ever made and a real labour of love.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2008-06-18 06:07 [#02216626]
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Great words Brisk.
The MK2 comes in handy to scout out what lies ahead, as well as has the ability to electrocute (and knock out) the enemy.
I believe the grave is The Boss's. But yeah, I guess he really only did just find out about her.
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2008-06-19 16:35 [#02216925]
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I love this game
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OK
on 2008-06-19 16:42 [#02216927]
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marry it then!
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2008-06-19 16:50 [#02216928]
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My eyes are too bloodshot to get married.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2008-06-19 19:22 [#02216947]
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BiG sPoIlErS
That was Big Boss' grave, which happened to be right beside The Boss'. In the ending you can see Snake arriving at his grave and he glances over at her grave without giving it that much attention.
BTW, check PSN, there's a Metal Gear Database up now. 77MB of information and pictures, very cool and free and enlightening and confusing (I didn't take this picture)
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2008-06-19 21:25 [#02216951]
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It's funny how Johnny used to be shitting his pants all the time, now he's all marty Mcfly and grabbing girls asses hahah
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2008-06-19 21:27 [#02216952]
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Snake = CYNICAL SARCASTIC SMOKING CRAZY ASS
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2008-06-19 23:09 [#02216957]
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I've been playing Metal Gear Online the last couple of days, it's really fun though the map selection is very weak right now. The original MGO had a more interesting set of maps and I want more of the mountain/jungle/snowfield settings back. A Shadow Moses map based on the Crying Wolf area would be tubular and could have/should have been implemented already, but Konami want to bleed us dry and I'm willing to bend over.
Stealth of course is all but non-existent unless it's that .5% of the time that you get to be Snake, but I like the generally slow pace of this game. I spent 3 hours leveling up my knife skills in hysterically fun ''knife-only'' servers so I could perform the CQC throat-slit and it was worth my evening.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2008-06-19 23:24 [#02216958]
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Snake is... the shit
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2008-06-19 23:58 [#02216959]
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i had to stop reading this thread because of possible spoilerzzz but i love all you guys.
update: the 80gb bundles seem to be impossile to get. i did see them online at sears and gamestop but waited a day to think it over. i shouldn't have thought about it.
i really want the backwards compatibility because my ps2 is dying. also, the dual shock controller. i may just give in and buy a 40gb at some store nearby.
sony continues to drop the ball on this system. taking out backwards compatibility to boost ps3 game sales? i guess that's how you award loyalty.
also, i'm disturbed by the few gamer store employees who said "it's just a rumble feature" about the bundle, but maybe they were just trying to sell the rumbleless 40gb or perhaps that + 55 more bucks for a controller. ever since the lovely n64 rumble pack, i think it's an essential, simple feature to gaming.
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2008-06-20 09:13 [#02217012]
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that's cool idea to have the camera on Snake's face while using the Codec, it's like the old days
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2008-06-20 09:14 [#02217013]
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I just started Act 5, I really don't want this game to end, I'm like getting depressed about it and everything
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retape
from http://retape.net (Norway) on 2008-06-20 09:41 [#02217026]
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I thought the whole game was kinda depressing/sad. but in a good way though, I loved it.
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2008-06-20 09:43 [#02217029]
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Of course i love how they put so many different hidden elements in this game.
for example in the beginning of Act 1 there's an Officer's uniform in one of the lockers in the PMC buildings, they won't even bother with you, and if you get the Big Boss emblem, they will be scared or somthing
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2008-06-20 13:19 [#02217076]
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I hope the future of Metal Gear will be sweet. I want to be on the production team for the new series. maybe i can help design some characters eh?
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OK
on 2008-06-22 05:25 [#02217385]
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wtf over eleven hours of play and probably about two of them or less are actual gameplay.
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2008-06-22 08:44 [#02217406]
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Me and my brother beat the game this weekend. One of the best games I've played this generation, and a landmark for graphical prowess. The length was appropriate (even though seeing the series end feels a bit sad) and the amount of closure is satisfying. I still have no idea about some of the craziest shit in MGS2, and how that relates to anything, but I'm willing to applaud Kojima for making one mess of a story at least APPEAR reasonable and tight-knit. Gameplay was very old school, although the first person and third person shooting modes made it all seem relevant again.
I agree that some of the earlier boss battles were not as exciting as they could have been, mainly because they were so rare to come by and yet not all that difficult. Aside from that, I feel anybody who owns a PS3 and is not playing this game is an idiot. In fact, anyone who likes good games is going to enjoy this experience.
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OK
on 2008-06-22 12:55 [#02217429]
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i dont like it so far and im a fan of the series. MGS2>MGS1>MGS3>MGS4 so far.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2008-06-22 15:12 [#02217454]
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I think MGS3 remains my favorite. Maybe. God bless MGS2 for pushing the envelope as far as it could go, but it ended up being a heavy millstone around MGS4's neck... too many things for its sequel to explain, too much time spent explaining it, some of it wasn't worth explaining in the first place, and some of the explanations are just too much. The pacing is just off from from the comparatively brisk, genre-bending self-contained potboilers that were MGS1 and 3. There's a lot of superfluous stuff that could have been edited here.
Still, can't be too hard on the series for being overambitious, especially in this industry. It's sad to see the Solid series end, because there's nothing else that could ever replace it. It was unprecedented and probably inimitable.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2008-06-22 15:13 [#02217455]
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You've earned it, Lt. Solid Snake.
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2008-06-22 15:42 [#02217458]
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impressive snake!!
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2008-06-22 16:21 [#02217470]
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the erotic sadomasochism associated with writing female bodies in agony is what keeps any true man going in battle...
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2008-06-22 16:21 [#02217471]
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writ-h-ing
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QRDL
from Poland on 2008-06-22 16:51 [#02217475]
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Well, I've finished it a couple of minutes ago. To answer your question Ophecks, I got quite a lot from what was going on in the 4-th act. Before buying the game I watched specials prepared by GameSpy which contained the most memorable cinematics and boss fights from the previous parts, so I believe I understood the most important things. I don't think that this whole effort was worth it though, because it wouldn't hurt if there was less of the story in this game. I could probably write something about the Japanese take on pop-culture which produces horribly overblown results, but I admit that I must miss some magic because of not having the memories of grwowing up with the game. Anyway, the cutscenes were very well done and enjoyable as long as the dialogue was limited. Which is probably why it was such a pain for me to watch the ending.
The rest of the game, the shooting mechanics, the inventory, the stealth elements, the boss battles - all spot on, very very fun. 9/10.
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2008-06-22 17:17 [#02217485]
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for me, as someone who's played 1 and 2 and most of 3, it was precisely the ending (and events leading up to it) that made the most sense, and with any LESS dialogue I would have felt cheated
this need for extended closure is, of course, a result of their weaving a ridiculously bloated storyline across two decades, which could only be resolved in this (admittedly trying) manner.
but more than fan service, it's a surprisingly interesting alternative history scenario that touches on current political events as well... you can read it as pure fiction or a sort of cloaked conspiracy theory, whatever rocks your boat.
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QRDL
from Poland on 2008-06-22 17:27 [#02217486]
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What was much worse that the actual lines was the way they were delivered. Even Sunny's sighs pissed me off. As I said before, the setting wasn't as ludicrous as I had expected, some of the ideas for this whole alternative reality really made sense.
I downloaded MGS for PC a couple of days ago and I think I'm going to give it a try soon.
Now, I have no idea what my next game for PS3 should be. GRID seems to be a good racer. Maybe MGS3 in compatibility mode if I find some way to buy it in Poland. It seems that in Iceland, there is no way to get anything more than 1 year old. Will it work on the standard 40GB version?
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blaaard
from Imatra (close to sky) (Finland) on 2008-06-23 04:02 [#02217518]
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if the PC version don't work properly (which is very likely, apparently it will run only on old hardware...), try using an emulator with the original Playstation disks/iso's. I'm currently playing it on ePSXe, and after a little config time it now runs (almost) perfectly. in my opinion the best game of the series by far...
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2008-06-23 04:32 [#02217523]
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or you could just play it on your PS3... emulation of PS1 games works fine.
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QRDL
from Poland on 2008-06-23 04:54 [#02217525]
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First I would have to get the original game and it has never been a popular series in Poland. Hmmm, is it possible to run PSX games burned from disc images on PS3?
Blaaard, I'll try emulating PSX if this is indeed the easiest thing to do.
Thanks for the tips guys.
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2008-06-23 05:10 [#02217526]
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as to your first question: no, PS3 will not read them.
I agree running it on good software is probably the best alternative. Proper emulation makes the game look like a PS2 game, which is either a great advance (as I think), or blasphemy to the original (as some might think). I'm all in favour of adding texture filtering and anti-aliasing to old crappy looking PSX games. But if you'd rather emulate PSX 100% accurately, nothing's stopping you. That's why I love emulators.
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QRDL
from Poland on 2008-06-23 06:26 [#02217538]
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I'll let myself be stopped and rather emulate it with all the bling.
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2008-06-23 06:50 [#02217540]
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Finished it today, great game but a bit too short imo... I did something like 22 hours. The end was petty sad, it nearly made me cry.
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2008-06-23 20:33 [#02217720]
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I'm on my second playthrough now and i met up with Mk. II, but all my stuff is still missing from my inventory. How do you get all your stuff from a previously cleared game?
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2008-06-23 21:02 [#02217724]
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I remember getting the double-disc PS1 Metal Gear Solid as a hand-me-down, and never playing it because i didn't like it, then i got older and i loved it and thought i was the only person who had it hahah, like it was a game no one else knew about.
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2008-06-24 03:54 [#02217769]
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did you remember to load the completed game file rather than start a new game? you can easily test whether you've got your stuff by checking the song list on your ipod (which you get from the onset).
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2008-06-24 10:42 [#02217889]
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yeah i didn't realize that i had to load from the last save. Big Boss Hard is really fucking frustrazting, i'm trying to go through it under 5 hrs, with no alerts, no damage, and no kills. I wonder if it's even worth it, since if i mess up, i have to start al the way from the beginning of the act.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2008-06-24 11:09 [#02217890]
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No damage, or just no healing items? I don't think anyone has done a no-damage run yet. That would be hard for me to fathom. The rail-shooting segments are the biggest hurdle there.
I have a completed save of The Boss Extreme beaten in under 3.5 hours, no kills no alerts no damage. I'm such a badass. The hardest part was definitely copying it over to my PS3 after I downloaded it from gamefaqs. The rewards are neat but sort of disappointing.
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2008-06-24 12:27 [#02217900]
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you just copied the data through USB? haha damn
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2008-06-24 12:43 [#02217902]
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does this operatioon not work when doing it with a mac?
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2008-06-24 14:38 [#02217917]
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i wonder how save game downloads are gonna work for the new trophy/achievement system? i did the same thing as ophecks after i completed the game... it's fun running around with full stealth.
also, why the hell have us euros had to wait for the metal gear database? i can understand the delay in translating it for non-english speakers, but at least release it for brits for christ sake..
oh and i sold my copy of MGS1 for the PS1 for £20 today.
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2008-07-13 20:52 [#02221802]
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got this. 80 gig dualshock bundle. it's great. been neglecting it a bit for other things (real life)
wanted to put a good solid 6 hours into it today but i've been stuck on the fight with the suicide gekkos. it's rediculous. i want to put my fist through my tv.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2008-07-14 06:04 [#02221874]
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Are you charging up the rail gun completely before shooting the Gekkos with it? That kills them instantly and makes it pretty easy, and the game doesn't really let you know that you can charge it.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2008-07-14 06:15 [#02221880]
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If you want the trophies you'll probably have to play the game again to actually trigger them, otherwise everybody would just download uber-saves. Kind of sucks considering how hard I worked to earn all of Uncharted's rewards.
For games like Warhawk, where stats and performance is saved on their server, when they update the game you'll get all the trophies retroactively, because you can't cheat the server. They know you're legit.
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2008-07-14 20:22 [#02222030]
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yeah i'm a doofus. i wasn't charging it and also i was letting them get inside the rubble and then they'd jump on me when i was killing another one.
i got past it last night and i beat the rest of the game tonight. i haven't read what others have said about it much but i will after i post this.
i honestly found the majority of the storyline/cutscenes to be awful. but there were some good bits that i enjoyed, mainly the artsy visual explanation parts.
i'd give the game an 8 at best. mgs, mgs3, mgs4, mgs2
i'll discuss this with you great people soon! but for now the home run derby is on and i want to read a summary of the mgs series storyline to see if i understood everything.
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yoyoyoyo
from Sweden on 2008-07-15 11:19 [#02222149]
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i need to buy it
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