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panopticonic global technocracy

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-16 00:45 [#02574618]
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Technocracy is even worse than oligopoly (which is worse
than monopoly)- computerized oligopoly. So now they control
us with: criminal law, criminal economics, criminal
algorithms, in a totalitarian total takeover in defiance of
the non aggression principle (aka ethics). Living itself
will only be possible in the black market, as all routes to
obtain the fees to pay human farming landlords for the
revokable privilege of dwelling in unownable territory are
shut down by the technocracy. Youtube/facebook/twitter etc
are now just doing what ebay/amazon already did. They have
sucked so much out of the economic ecological niches that
they reverted it to survival of the fittest. You now have to
be predatory to merely survive at a subsistence level.
starting at 30:00
is a good description of how the borg plans to eat humanity
and discard its skin.


offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2019-04-16 01:07 [#02574619]
Points: 10938 Status: Lurker

Dunno, as Techno listener technocracy always seemed like a
good thing to me. I think electronic music prepared me for
this future. Was i brainwashed?


offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-16 01:22 [#02574620]
Points: 27798 Status: Regular

don't have to worry too long planet will be too hot to
inhabit for us proles, the rich will have atmospherically
sealed arcologies like the eden project on steroids, we will
try to break in by the domes will be made of transparent
aluminium like star trek 4, a small pocket of nomadic tribal
exiles will exist in walrus yurts at the poles subsisting on
a bartering economy based on bacterial mats and algae


offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2019-04-16 01:24 [#02574622]
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as long as it's technocracy as opposed to tekwar, i think
we'll be alright


offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-16 01:36 [#02574624]
Points: 21386 Status: Regular | Followup to Monoid: #02574619

It is possible that electronic music was largely a psyop to
induct people into transhumanism. In the future I imagine
people will go to some sort of google transhuman clinic. A
white labcoat guy (argument from authority) will come out
and show you a laptop screen with some 8 bit characters
dancing in 4 frames of animation to a cheesy upbeat 8 bit
melody. "Those are your family members, they've already
successfully uploaded. They're having a great time in the
singularity and want you to join them. To upload your body
does cost your earthly life savings but you'll be reimbursed
with digital money. Enjoy you're stay in utopia." Then
they'll kill you and add another 8 bit character to the
screen. That will be you, everything you represent, in your
new perfect digital form.


offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-16 01:41 [#02574625]
Points: 27798 Status: Regular

sounds like an electronic purgatory, a hacker could have a
laugh, like change a variable so your cock suddenly becomes
100 feet long in the middle of the high street


offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-16 01:42 [#02574626]
Points: 27798 Status: Regular

its what id do if I was an electronic god


offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-16 01:57 [#02574627]
Points: 21386 Status: Regular

By the way, when poor people die, I'm pretty sure the
default is they burn you (cremation). That's because,
even after death only rich people are allowed to own
property under the earth, just like they can only own
property above it. I won't leave any bones or fossils, so
even if some really advanced future technology can resurrect
someone from their bones it'll be impossible for the poor,
they'll be burned to save space for graves of rich people. I
never existed! I already have no evidence in life, it'll all
be immediately erased after death. The government will
probably even recycle my barcode. Maybe that's for the best
since life is at a base level about killing and eating other
advanced evolutionary designs, rewarding stealing and adding
their lifeforce and energy to yours, then about technocracy
when intelligence gets advanced enough. Maybe this realm is
evolving toward hell and it's best to be erased as soon as


offline Tony Danza from a society on 2019-04-16 02:15 [#02574629]
Points: 2722 Status: Regular | Followup to w M w: #02574627

Refraining mutually from injury, violence, and exploitation
and placing one’s will on a par with that of someone
else—this may become, in a certain rough sense, good
manners among individuals if the appropriate conditions are
present (namely, if these men are actually similar in
strength and value standards and belong together in one
body). But as soon as this principle is extended, and
possibly even accepted as the fundamental principle of
society, it immediately proves to be what it really is—a
will to the denial of life, a principle of disintegration
and decay.

Here we must beware of superficiality and get to the bottom
of the matter, resisting all sentimental weakness: life
itself is essentially appropriation, injury, overpowering of
what is alien and weaker; suppression, hardness, imposition
of one’s own forms, incorporation and at least, at its
mildest, exploitation—but why should one always use those
words in which a slanderous intent has been imprinted for


offline Tony Danza from a society on 2019-04-16 02:15 [#02574630]
Points: 2722 Status: Regular | Followup to Tony Danza: #02574629

Even the body within which individuals treat each other as
equals, as suggested before—and this happens in every
healthy aristocracy—if it is a living and not a dying
body, has to do to other bodies what the individuals within
it refrain from doing to each other: it will have to be an
incarnate will to power, it will strive to grow, spread,
seize, become predominant—not from any morality or
immorality but because it is living and because life simply
is will to power. But there is no point on which the
ordinary consciousness of Europeans resists instruction as
on this: everywhere people are now raving, even under
scientific disguises, about coming conditions of society in
which “the exploitative aspect” will be removed—which
sounds to me as if they promised to invent a way of life
that would dispense with all organic functions.
“Exploitation” does not belong to a corrupt or imperfect
and primitive society: it belongs to the essence of what
lives, as a basic organic function; it is a consequence of
the will to power, which is after all the will of life.

If this should be an innovation as a theory—as a reality
it is the primordial fact of all history: people ought to be
honest with themselves at least that far.


offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-16 03:27 [#02574634]
Points: 21386 Status: Regular | Followup to Tony Danza: #02574630

What book is that from? Interesting words, kind of a "might
is right" philosophy (or maybe truth). But might/right rhyme
so the "might is right" meme will outcompete a more accurate
meme ("right" implies ethical, maybe might is often fit but
not ethical). The real algorithm running is survival of the
fittest, but what is fit doesn't have to be mighty in the
obvious sense (a flea can be mightier/more fit than a much
larger dog). So I guess the question is can some sort of
organized hivemind based on the non aggression principle be
more fit than the technocracy of government+corporations. It
is possible for cooperation to exist as well as war, for
example all the individual cells in one human body, but
that's because they have the same dna so they all have the
same goal of being replicated in the germ line of sperm/egg.
Bees/ants similarly operate as a single organism. Humans
have fairly similar dna to eachother so are more altruistic
toward eachother then other species like pigs/cows. Can
goodness be more fit than evil? It's probably just a never
ending unwinnable battle. But it would be nice, and better
for everyone, if they were allowed to fucking live on some
fucking territory without being farmed. Even though it might
be better for everyone as a group, the algorithm running on
the individual actors might not push toward that direction
for the group since they operate independently. David
friedman talked about that here (didnt read but looks
similar to a speech at first glance, the spear part and
ratinoal ignorance)


offline hevquip from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2019-04-16 05:39 [#02574638]
Points: 3122 Status: Regular

take your meds


offline Roger Wilco from Mo's Beans on 2019-04-16 06:18 [#02574640]
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"Maybe this realm is evolving toward hell and it's best
to be erased as soon as possible.

Do what I do. Get an office job, one where you're allowed to
wear headphones, and listen to Ligeti all day.


offline Chodi from 1337V1773 on 2019-04-16 07:29 [#02574643]
Points: 999 Status: Addict

did malcom x lose? no

Everyone hold their panties till the UK and US shed their
ass skin.



offline Chodi from 1337V1773 on 2019-04-17 11:09 [#02574814]
Points: 999 Status: Addict

is Ligeti your wifeline


offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2019-04-17 12:53 [#02574840]
Points: 11806 Status: Lurker

you know what's a funny joke? the number of leftist
philosophers who claim influence from nietzsche or heidegger


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