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             from Greatest Hits on 2016-10-09 06:01 [#02505123] Points: 25604 Status: Regular
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 | today was a day i declared for one purpose: spoil myself rotten. post on forums. eat ice cream. drive around. torrent
 the cheetah ep...
 
 i logged into what.cd to torrent the cheetah EP, and it
 curtly informed me that two of my torrents had been deleted
 due to inactivity. it would seem the people prefer aphex
 over nevenen, and who am i to argue? torrented.
 
 there's what constitues a pre-listen: shitty PC multimedia
 speakers, half-listening, half-reacting to half-wit
 half-half-reactions in the cheetah EP thread, then a tangent
 into the mechanics of dog-bopping chirality. gruetoof the
 mp3s to my fone.
 
 the set and setting continues with a long drive listening to
 crystal method, buying a coffee at a cumby, and a pack of
 savers, eating them one by one by one. throwing the
 watermelon ones promptly out the window. there were four in
 the pack; this may have negatively influenced my review.
 
 
 
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         |  EpicMegatrax
             from Greatest Hits on 2016-10-09 06:11 [#02505124] Points: 25604 Status: Regular
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 | i roll up to an intersection and think: yes, here's our synchronization pulse. i flick through the playlist and wait
 for the green arrow. start the EP just as it turns green.
 later, as the album ended, i was at the exact same
 intersection, waiting for the exact same green arrow. ending
 as it goes green. "oh, that's cute," i thought.
 
 how? as we established in my other thread, music is a
 rhythmic programming language to create a desired state of
 mind, and the grammar consists of self-organizing structures
 arranged to generate specific results at a distance, douglas
 adams improbability-drive style.
 
 driving to music is something that i've taken to almost
 bruce lee levels, really, and most of this is me. listening
 to the voice in my head telling me: yes, right here, drop
 the aphex album. that i've half-listened to while posting on
 the internet. the math of it is floating around in my
 subconscious, and having something like that regurgitate at
 the precise moment for something like green-arrow bookends
 is a skill i have arduously developed.
 
 however, proper tunes are important to the mechanism
 working. that it came out properly means the album itself is
 somewhat coherent; listening to it microwaved a bit of
 something and the album became conscious inside my
 subconscious mind for a very brief moment; yelled out when
 it wanted to be played. consequently, on the job of "picking
 tracks that go with the other tracks, and flow together" i
 give this a 9/10. this completes section one of the review.
 
 p.s. i'm squinting at it and i wonder if it'd play as well
 if you sorted the tracks lexically as opposed to just going
 by the official playlist. i suspect there's a lot of this in
 his albums
 
 
 
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         |  EpicMegatrax
             from Greatest Hits on 2016-10-09 06:59 [#02505125] Points: 25604 Status: Regular
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 | it's not an aphex album without internet arguments; this is part two of the review.
 
 i spend a goodly amount of time thinking about
 what wMw thinks and what SignedUpToLOL thinks but not much time thinking
 about what RussellDust thinks about afex's thingks, because
 he doesn't want to know how his favorite music is made, and
 thus avoids thinking entirely (leaving me with scant thought
 to think about, which means no writing about writing
 either...). elusive thinks it's fukn surgical.
 
 yes, alright: oh, it sounds so aphex, i just can't word it
 with my fumbly wording worders halp. here it is: everything
 is detuned slightly flat. like the whole song is melting, or
 sinking downwards. it goes with this thing i began noticing
 in car ads a decade ago: a mercedes cutting through the
 mist. the colors are... what is that? desaturated.
 the colors are desaturated. the moody aphex vibe is a grey
 and foggy morning with those sort of colors, and i had
 reasonably good success getting that sort of sound back when
 i did music by just thinking of that, and now how do i do
 the things to be like that? but, like bopping dogs, it's
 staring into infinity. also, ram the release up to max on
 all your envelopes, be very deliberate with reverb, and then
 use gating to make all the timing snap like cher's bumhole.
 
 is he a fukn surginal dark lord? well, sure, he's very good
 at all the above, but it's nothing mystical. then we combine
 wMw with elusive with SiLoL, and here it is: that circkloin
 track lets him do these mental mathematical tapestries of
 noises but there's absolutely zero funk to it. no humanity.
 i think i need to listen to some mouse on mars just to feel
 emotion again.
 
 as a topic for internet shitposting, this album gets a 4/10.
 we've had these arguments before, but it's nice to clear
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             from Greatest Hits on 2016-10-09 07:24 [#02505126] Points: 25604 Status: Regular
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 | this leads us to the next stage of the review: how aphex-y is this aphex? well, quite aphex, but more on that now:
 
 SiLoL thinks it's like analogue bubblebath and i agree: yes,
 that one track is pretty much an AB melody, but it has more
 at the end; it's a bit better. now when i would have put
 that on, i can put on this instead. then ZX2 whatever at the
 end, yes, bwoon dub finally develops a sense of humor. those
 moments when i want to hear bwoon dub, but, no, i'm not that
 straight-lipped now. what do i do? ugh... but, no more.
 
 the synth tones? yes, it's like he's doing prophet VS
 patches on this little joke synth box of his, and it's not
 quite as psychedelic as the VS but the bottom end sounds
 better than the VS could ever manage. i like it. i recall
 the pg800 or whatever has no filters; i imagine that forces
 one to construct a track's harmonics upfront. he's done
 this, with a circkloincloth whatever, no funk, but it has
 the satisfying beauty of a level of breakout (before the
 little ball and paddle get to work and ruin it all).
 
 aphex has spoke of filling holes in his catalogue, a cheetah
 is a cat, holes filled: 5/10. replaces various tracks off
 AB, drukqs, and analord, but nothing that wasn't present
 before. it's kind of hard for him to score a good number in
 this CATegory at this stage of iteration
 
 
 
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         |  EpicMegatrax
             from Greatest Hits on 2016-10-09 07:31 [#02505127] Points: 25604 Status: Regular
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 | where does it fit into my personal collection of tracks? this is the hardest to rate, especially right now. i'm not
 overwhelmed. slightly whelmed, sure, but that's about as far
 as it goes. the pre-listen on PC multimedia speakers was not
 impressive; the car proper listen was better. it's
 definitely getting more car time, but a certain sort of car
 time. i used to hate the track "drown in the now" by crystal
 method, but... why did i hate this track? fuck me, it's
 great for driving fast. i don't really ever put on aphex for
 those moments hunter s. thompson referred to -- the ones
 that "drag the blood to the back of the brain." no, aphex is
 more cruising around while stoned. not particularly fast.
 half lost in thought. space on my fone is limited and i'm
 deleting orphaned dj selek for this one instead. i should
 also delete the acoustic computer one. this has more carplay
 value than either, but not nearly as much as crystal
 method's album "divided by night" and that's as close as i
 can get to a number for now. keep trying, richard
 
 
 
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             from the turtle business on 2016-10-09 12:17 [#02505131] Points: 31593 Status: Regular | Show recordbag
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 | I appreciate the gift of prompting me to visualise Cher's bumhole. You can't put a price on that.
 
 
 
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 | i read somewhere that these cheetah stuff are hard to use, maybe he just couldnt take the 'human' out of that machine.
 maybe it doesnt give you the possibility to do so.
 
 
 
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 | maybe its just not your tempo 
 
 
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         |  EpicMegatrax
             from Greatest Hits on 2016-10-09 21:57 [#02505173] Points: 25604 Status: Regular
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 | so, yes, i realized i nailed it even better than i meant to: everything is detuned slightly flat
 
 if everything is detuned flat, then it's all in tune, and
 nothing is flat, right? there's the trick -- it's a moving
 target. what's my ear latching onto? ok, yes, there. now
 let's melt that. then it's melted off somewhere; what next?
 a thousand little tricks buried in iterating over like that.
 half from listening to others' music closely, the other half
 just from messing around. half of messing around is
 accidental discovery, the other half is "i have it in my
 head, now how do i get it into the computer?"
 
 eventually everything tastes like robot tears on a misty
 morning. the "acid" sound, i'd almost argue, more than 303
 twonks.
 
 
 
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         |  EpicMegatrax
             from Greatest Hits on 2016-10-11 03:37 [#02505389] Points: 25604 Status: Regular
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 | sorry, no, it's not off AB, it's SAW 85-92. the (korbychevsky mix) track is a dead ringer for delphium or
 actium or one of those. as flip as i come off about all of
 this, though, when i said it was slightly better, i was not
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             on 2016-10-11 15:46 [#02505393] Points: 16155 Status: Lurker
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 | "what wMw thinks and what SignedUpToLOL thinks but not much time thinking
 about what RussellDust thinks about afex's thingks, because
 
 he doesn't want to know how his favorite music is made, and
 
 thus avoids thinking entirely (leaving me with scant thought
 
 to think about, which means no writing about writing ..."
 
 Sorry, what?
 
 
 
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             from Greatest Hits on 2016-10-11 17:37 [#02505394] Points: 25604 Status: Regular | Followup to RussellDust: #02505116
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 | I don't want to know about how the art my favorite artists
 make. --RusselDust, Cheetah EP thread
 
 i do suppose that's a grammatical trainwreck and i could
 have misparsed your intent.
 
 
 
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             on 2016-10-11 18:03 [#02505396] Points: 16155 Status: Lurker | Followup to EpicMegatrax: #02505394
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 | Problem is I don't put much care into my posts, or activity here. I can't even be bothered checking the thread you're
 talking about.
 
 I never double check for grammar or spelling either.
 
 I believe in making the most out of very little, when it
 comes to this art I mention. Often extensive focus on
 equipment steers us off course, and beyond the actual point.
 I know how most of the music I love is made, it's usually
 not very difficult to work out. When it comes to ae or
 Aphex, there can be an interesting element as to working out
 how a certain sound was managed, what gear was used, but
 that's about it. The gear isn't that important. I know some
 very knowledgeable gear heads with tons of tools who
 unfortunately seriously lack creativity, dare I say talent.
 
 I guess I forget you can also be sarcastic, so I won't
 mention the bit about thinking.
 
 
 
 
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 | There's always something interesting to note about technique, I'm not trying to be a spoilsport here.
 
 I think you understand me perfectly, and I don't feel the
 need to go on about this, so I'll just mention that when we
 read a great book, we know how It was written, or more
 precisely we know what tools were used. It's the creativity
 that takes center stage. When I hear a great melody, hook,
 or beat, I'm pretty aware of the process (in general) that
 goes through in order to create it. It's just not what
 interests me when I listen to a Prince track, or read a
 great story. It's not about the author's typewriter brand.
 
 I do enjoy technical tricks of course. How a machine was
 used. But it still all boils down to the brain and
 creativity.
 
 Comparing writing to making music is of course possibly
 really far fetched. I'm just trying to justify the
 grammar-mess you used as a quote to make an overstatement
 about me, and more importantly about 'thinking'.
 
 
 
 
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         |  RussellDust
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 | I prefer the melody to the material process used to create the melody, which generally requires fingers and an
 instrument, or pen.
 
 If i met an artist I love I'd compliment his work, but not
 necessarily how it was made. I would definitely not
 compliment his or her tools.
 
 Sorry, I'm bored, possibly confused, generally well meaning.
 
 
 
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         |  mohamed
             from the turtle business on 2016-10-11 18:47 [#02505402] Points: 31593 Status: Regular | Show recordbag
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 | i couldnt give a shit about how music was made. 
 gear talk is boring.
 
 
 
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         |  RussellDust
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 | I love that this is in connection to the cheetah ep. He's not exactly keeping his tools to himself. Syro's artwork
 came with a list for fuck's sake. I think it's possible his
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             from United Kingdom on 2016-10-11 19:33 [#02505409] Points: 6123 Status: Lurker | Followup to RussellDust: #02505406
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 | it's kind of a pointless list because it lists nearly every piece of gear ever made
 
 
 
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 | Actually no it isn't, and no it isn't. 
 
 
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             from Greatest Hits on 2016-10-12 17:14 [#02505457] Points: 25604 Status: Regular
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 | i was just having a goof with that anywaya, because i was nicking bits from the cheetah proper thread to reply to, and
 yours was mixed in with what i was grabbing...
 
 i guess i was trying to make a point about state of mind. my
 attitude has always been towards painting a mood or a vibe.
 this manifests in technical ways, but it's more just...
 write, playback, is this what feeling/mood i wanted? can i
 make it moreso? rinse the flangers and repeat until returns
 diminish
 
 
 
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         |  EpicMegatrax
             from Greatest Hits on 2016-10-13 09:35 [#02505568] Points: 25604 Status: Regular
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 | so, yes, in this track -- ~here~ -- i've thrown the desaturated sound under the bus and gone supersaturated.
 like a blinding stock image of sunflowers under a blue sky.
 i wasn't trying to be contrarian, i was just trying to make
 a sunny track because i wasn't feeling moody. cheer up, acid
 lords
 
 
 
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         |  EpicMegatrax
             from Greatest Hits on 2016-10-13 09:43 [#02505569] Points: 25604 Status: Regular
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 | this isn't really a review. it started off as a parody of a review, sorta formatted like a review. then peter
 reviewyneux. it is a fragment of the end of the other thread
 about the thing -- it got me thinking, you know? like...
 yeah, that's a good point, but... and, until i argue it all
 out and type it up, it's a lot more nebulous and circular.
 so, ground floor, i've sat down and worked my own opinions
 out a bit more thoroughly.
 
 the replies help just as much. people arguing with me, or
 misunderstanding in a funny way. then i am having to format
 my nonsense in reply to their nonsense, i suppose, and this
 begins to box in some semblance of an understanding. and a
 sort of pressure on my bullshit that's akin to natural
 selection. like i said to someone today, "what i say is bad
 enough; you don't want to know what i throw out."
 
 i felt like i should write this in case kettel minge storms
 in here and demands to know who, exactly, do i think i am,
 writing this and expecting it to be red
 
 
 
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             from Greatest Hits on 2016-10-13 10:13 [#02505572] Points: 25604 Status: Regular
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 | then snow is not sunny and my metaphor has collapsed. desaturated, supersaturated? that's all i know about the instagram
 filters they use on acura commercials. i figure the answer
 is "that moody RDJ feel" is really how RDJ feels, possibly
 when he's hiding away inside some 80s synth, or possibly
 just in general.
 
 then you lot are so into aphex that it comes to be like
 recognizing someone's voice. how do you do that? it's
 complexicated, but it's not just voice, but accent, the way
 they say words... irony is, i don't have a particulary firm
 idea of what his real voice sounds like...
 
 so, yes, you're feeling someone else's feelings, and you've
 spent so much time feeling them that it's immediately
 distinct from all the other feelings you feel from other
 someones. now you're asking: what's this feeling that i'm
 feeling, and what synthesizer will make me this feel...y?
 
 obviously, it's the prophet vs
 
 
 
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         |  EpicMegatrax
             from Greatest Hits on 2016-10-13 10:32 [#02505573] Points: 25604 Status: Regular | Followup to SignedUpToLOL: #02505133
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 | I appreciate the gift of prompting me to visualise Cher's bumhole. You can't put a price on that.
 
 i got to that part of the sentence: "to make all the timing
 snap like..." and then it just kinda showed up. cher's
 bumhole? sure, alright, moving on.
 
 later, i was puzzling over it. i can't even remember the
 last time i thought of cher. usually, i can figure out where
 these things came from, somewhat... but, no, it's like i
 handed off my brain's microphone to the studio audience for
 a moment. i decided: something in me has landed on this as
 the resonant frequency of someone's funny bone. i wonder
 who?
 
 
 
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         |  EpicMegatrax
             from Greatest Hits on 2016-10-13 10:49 [#02505574] Points: 25604 Status: Regular
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 | to clarify -- or muddle it further 
 "make all the timing snap like cher's bumhole" -- cher's
 bumhole is drastically different from the usual sort of
 things i'd pick for that spot.
 
 thinking about it, i could tell it was culled from stuff
 i've read here. i don't use the word bumhole very often;
 people here do. cher? people who know about cher are
 typically a little older than me. obviously european... belb
 would say bumhole....
 
 so my conclusion was that i'd bodged up a joke for someone
 in particular, or a general archetype of sorts on this
 board.
 
 then someone's to lol dropped in to say, "yeah, out of all
 this stuff, this thing here, it's beautiful." then he's
 gone. left the thread. so, yes, bumhole is a belb word, but
 signeduptolol is stranded in london or something and he's on
 here enough to recognize a belb word and
 
 i am delighted that someone reacted in that manner.
 
 
 
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         |  SignedUpToLOL
             from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2016-10-13 12:45 [#02505575] Points: 2853 Status: Regular
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 | It's funny because even though I was born in London (albeit the Bowie-belt of the Beckenham hinterland), and have lived
 here most of my life, I do feel stranded here, like I
 can't get away. And I have tried to get away, numerous
 times.
 
 I am not sure what magazine it is here, it's like National
 Enquirer but called something like Now! or Take a Break or
 Take a Shit but the front page currently carries the
 legend "Dying Cher turned me Gay"
 
 
 
 
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             from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2016-10-13 12:52 [#02505576] Points: 2853 Status: Regular
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 | Looking it up it is actually the National Enquirer UK, so I guess it's almost exactly like the National Enquirer,
 and not like Take a   Shit, at all.
 
 
 
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             from Greatest Hits on 2016-10-13 15:47 [#02505580] Points: 25604 Status: Regular
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 | you've tried to get away from it your whole life, but Take A Shit magazine has still immanentized cher's bumhole into a
 direct portal to your subconscious mind. the word shit comes
 from the german scheiss, to separate. what do i want to
 keep, and what do i want to flush? snappy envelopes allow
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             on 2016-10-13 16:32 [#02505581] Points: 16155 Status: Lurker | Followup to SignedUpToLOL: #02505575
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 | A visit to see old RD would be fun......ONE DAY!!! 
 
 
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             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-10-13 16:41 [#02505582] Points: 31541 Status: Lurker
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 | Extraordinary 
 
 
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         |  EpicMegatrax
             from Greatest Hits on 2016-10-13 22:38 [#02505616] Points: 25604 Status: Regular
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 | I'm the king of the JUNGLE aint no girl here with a safe bumhole
 and when it comes to the boys
 I'm no homophobia-ist
 I rent their bums to some close friends
 who just happen to be nonces-es.
 
 I read they need my vibrancy in the UK
 Go as a student but then I over stay
 --SignedUpToLOL in a belb rap battle thread ~
 cite
 
 elaboration: in the car, i said: googaggling
 site:xltronic.com bumhole belb will turn up something. i
 just know it. when i get back, i should googagglego on this
 query and find out what!
 
 tallying up: i decided bumhole was a belb sort of word,
 here's signeduptolol using it in a belb rap battle thread,
 and also mentioning the UK trapping him like a fly in
 amber.
 
 this arose from cher's bumhole. cher's bumhole? that sticks
 out like a trombone sneeze. everything else in the post makes
 sense, more or less, but...
 
 then in trying to suss out why i'd done that, where it came
 from, etc. it starts to feel like a bit of a machine. but i
 don't have all the variables... so, i reach these points
 that i absolutely love. i know googling xlt's archives for
 "bumhole belb" will deliver something dope, trippy, etc. but
 i have absolutely no idea what it will be until i actually
 google it...
 
 i vaguely remember that thread, but i still can't say if
 that's where it all came from. it's just likely.
 
 this aphex twin EP review is getting rather long. needs
 snappier envelopes. careful control of information
 
 
 
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         |  EpicMegatrax
             from Greatest Hits on 2016-10-13 22:57 [#02505618] Points: 25604 Status: Regular
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 | this sort of absurd reverse-engineering of words and reality is something i've always done. it was a hobby. stuff to
 think about while riding the subway. idle amusement. somehow
 it's turned into something with a lot of practical
 application, so i put a bit more serious effort into it.
 disciplined and structued as opposed to idle tinkering. a
 bit later, there was a moment: how i am flying through air?
 i think i was just fired out of a canon. tacobel's canon...
 no, back! back, molynuex!
 
 it's a subtle thing: oh, yes, that's a belb word. i'm
 certain. the phrase still confuses me, but yes, my brain
 assures me it's a belb word. i'm not provided with a reason;
 i have to work that out myself. being able to trust myself
 with that sort of unexplained certainty is one part. the
 other part is becoming so familar with my own paths of
 thought that i can trust myself with that sort of
 unexplained certainty. eventually you start to say: i've
 seen this sort of unexplained certainty many times before,
 and i suspect it constitutes a pattern. after you work the
 pattern out, you spot it whenever it runs by your mental
 assembly line... that's where i am now. i spot it, i chase
 after it to see where it's going. after enough of this i'll
 begin to spot patterns in that, and achieve what the buddha
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         |  EpicMegatrax
             from Greatest Hits on 2016-10-13 23:02 [#02505619] Points: 25604 Status: Regular | Followup to RussellDust: #02505400
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 | Comparing writing to making music is of course possibly really far fetched. I'm just trying to justify the
 grammar-mess you used as a quote to make an overstatement
 about me, and more importantly about 'thinking'.
 
 yes, you were part of the thing where i have two serious
 points and then a third mock point for a giggle. this guy
 has this interesting point, this other guy has this other
 interesting point, and russeldust prefers not to make
 points.
 
 writing, though, like music, is a thing where your style is
 nothing more than thousands of bits of other peoples' style
 collaged together. the individual voice arises in personal
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         |  EpicMegatrax
             from Greatest Hits on 2016-10-13 23:09 [#02505620] Points: 25604 Status: Regular
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 | in conclusion, i give this EP a 7/10 overall. 
 
 
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         |  RussellDust
             on 2016-10-14 11:19 [#02505635] Points: 16155 Status: Lurker | Followup to EpicMegatrax: #02505619
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 | Yes all people are influenced. I like to think bits get added though, if you're lucky, if you know what I mean!
 
 
 
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