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offline dave_g from United Kingdom on 2007-02-12 14:07 [#02049266]
Points: 3372 Status: Lurker



well that made me chuckle. If regular life is too tough, I'm
sure the air force won't be.

From what I can gather the American armed forces seem to be
either a bunch of cowboys or brain washed robots, bet hey,
go for it.
If you're really like your internet persona then maybe you
will benfit from a good kick up the arse doing drill, etc.

P.S.
Don't forget that orange panels on the roof to designate
friendlies could also be deadly orange rockets... best to
shoot first, ask questions later.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2007-02-12 14:11 [#02049269]
Points: 23472 Status: Lurker



perrsonally i don't think you should join


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2007-02-12 14:37 [#02049282]
Points: 8833 Status: Regular



so i dont really know about the usaf, but i have a friend in
the army who joined for pretty much the same reasons (paying
for college, life experience etc.) and he despises the army
at this point (he's been in for more than 3 years now).

i think the biggest issue is that he isnt the type to just
bend over for someone when they ask (maybe a reason why
being in the army wasnt the best of ideas) so while theyre
jerking off all their gung-ho hooah USA USA! compatriots,
theyre telling him he's a fuckup and a piece of shit.

so yeah um dont just goin in thinking that because there are
some benefits that you dont have to pay for them.


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2007-02-12 14:39 [#02049283]
Points: 8833 Status: Regular | Followup to hedphukkerr: #02049282



oh, and as a side note, after two and a half years of
ensuring him that he wont be shipped off, he was sent to
iraq about a month ago, and im scared for him every day.


 

offline Rostasky from United States on 2007-02-12 15:31 [#02049320]
Points: 1572 Status: Lurker



Jarhead is a good movie to keep you out of the military.

I know I wouldn't last in the military, not because of the
job I'd be doing, but because of the people I'd be doing it
with.

Besides, I'm not straight enough to join the army.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-02-12 16:06 [#02049332]
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These opportunities are also provided elsewhere, and if they
aren't, then they should be.

Sure, obeying can take strength, but only if you're
opposed to what you're being told you should do or if you
find it difficult, etc, and this isn't always the case. In
the army, obeying can be used as a way of relieving yourself
of the responsibility of your actions; you're "just"
following orders; the choices wasn't yours to make; there is
no other option.

Another thing from that commercial is the "strength of
character" thing.. that doesn't really mean anything..
what's character? It also sends my thoughts to Nietzsche's
"good, strong character" (which is a bad thing, mind you).

I hate quoting stuff, but he's got the sting, and it also
generally serves as a description of Bush, who has indeed
been described by the people who work with him as a "strong
man who does what he thinks is right no matter what people
say."

"Once the decision has been made, to shut your ears even
to the best counter-arguments: a sign of a strong character.
Also an occasional will to stupidity.
"


 

offline edgey from New York (United States) on 2007-02-12 16:53 [#02049351]
Points: 408 Status: Regular | Followup to rad smiles: #02049258



touché!

I actually didn't go. They keep us pogue's behind the
lines.



 

offline edgey from New York (United States) on 2007-02-12 17:04 [#02049355]
Points: 408 Status: Regular | Followup to Drunken Mastah: #02049332



Well, that's the shame here in this country; there aren't
alternatives to what the military can offer (point for point
anyway). That's not to say there aren't opportunities
though, the trick is the get the truth up front, and know
what you're getting into.

The unfortunate thing is that Bush has so pushed the US into
public view with a bad foreign policy, that his persona has
become a picture of america, and that really isn't the case
here. The military is an arm of our legislature here, and
unfortunately bad policy has our military looking bad as
well.



 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-02-12 17:30 [#02049377]
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Any military looks bad in my eyes.. with the possible
exception of medics and mine-clearers, etc, but they
wouldn't be needed if it weren't for the other dickheads.



 

offline edgey from New York (United States) on 2007-02-12 17:54 [#02049382]
Points: 408 Status: Regular | Followup to Drunken Mastah: #02049377



Well, the formation of militia is usually a responsive act.
I could see opposition to a 'pro-active' military, but as
long as we have something
(land,religion,concepts,property,life) to defend, there will
always be need for someone to defend it. Not that I agree
with all of those things, but none-the-less, there you have
it.

What should look bad in your eyes, are the causes for the
formation of militiaries... not the militaries themselves.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-02-12 18:11 [#02049388]
Points: 24588 Status: Lurker



Maybe you can use your experience and time in the Armed
Forces to emerge as the American James Blunt. Wow, that
would be great.


 

offline unabomber from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2007-02-12 23:45 [#02049453]
Points: 3756 Status: Regular



ouch


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2007-02-13 00:29 [#02049460]
Points: 5125 Status: Regular



What about WW2? That wasn't worth fighting?


 

offline EVOL from a long time ago on 2007-02-13 01:12 [#02049461]
Points: 4921 Status: Lurker | Followup to swift_jams: #02049117



what is it with fucking dumbass kids these days?!? call the
fucking godamn jobs back your godman fucking self! go the
fuck in there! and i know this might sound ridiculous but
do it every fucking day! you think they have someone purely
dedicated to looking over 152871 million applications and
they just fuckin hand pick yours out of the fucking blue?!?
they don't know you from a piece of shit on the ground!
managers have a billion other things to be worrying about on
a daily basis than which fuck head wrote the prettiest on a
piece of paper! go in there, attach a face to the name,
make yourself known and make it seem like you really need
it! lazy ass no good silver spoon think everything should
be handed to you spoiled mother fucker!!!


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-02-13 01:48 [#02049463]
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word on that

If it's a store that sells something you can know stuff
about (in other words, not mcdonalds), you go in there a few
days a week, talk about what they sell.. example: record
store. Drop by, talk about music with the staff, ask for
recommendations, but then show that you really know stuff,
you were just hoping they'd know more.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-02-13 01:49 [#02049464]
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and pictures on applications seems to be a good thing.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-02-13 02:40 [#02049477]
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Did anyone hear that recording of the Americans who blew up
the British convoy?

The two standout comments were,

"That sucks."

and

"We're going to jail, man."

It was like a bad teen movie.


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2007-02-13 02:43 [#02049478]
Points: 14294 Status: Lurker | Followup to Drunken Mastah: #02049464



who is your avatar?



 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-02-13 02:45 [#02049480]
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Kierkegaard. How so?


 

offline EVOL from a long time ago on 2007-02-13 02:50 [#02049481]
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linkage? or should i just search ut00b?


 

offline b6662966 from ? on 2007-02-13 02:59 [#02049482]
Points: 1110 Status: Lurker



swift_jams, think twice about this. The USA has shown every
sign that they plan to attack Iran within this year which
could spark WWIII. Fuck the AF, go to college and if you
get drafted pretend to be gay.

EVOL, is that Wanderlei Silva or Chuck Liddell in your
avatar?


 

offline EVOL from a long time ago on 2007-02-13 03:12 [#02049483]
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THE AXE MURDERER!!!!!!!


 

offline zero-cool on 2007-02-13 03:17 [#02049484]
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email me what that top secret stuff is plz.


 

offline b6662966 from ? on 2007-02-13 03:50 [#02049489]
Points: 1110 Status: Lurker



EVOL, nice. I wonder how many people like PrideFC in here.
You checking out the Pride show in Vegas in a couple of
weeks?



 

offline EVOL from a long time ago on 2007-02-13 04:17 [#02049497]
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i wanted to go to the first one back in october when i still
lived there but at the time i was unemployed (which is why i
moved back to cali around thanksgiving) so i couldn't afford
the $100+ ticket just to go all by myself. but i wasn't to
upset because the cards weren't as nice as they could have
been. this time tho wanderlei is worth it himself and
takanori and shogun and henderson oh and trigg those are the
main guys i wanna see. but the trip out there alone is
another $100 in gas. that and the fact that my car is on
it's last leg. i'll try and find a viewing party at a bar
somewhere to watch it on ppv at least.


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2007-02-13 04:30 [#02049500]
Points: 5733 Status: Addict



fuck the military. i don't see why i should put my life on
the line for a country that i don't feel all that patriotic
for at all. the only armed force i would ever consider to
join would be the UN forces, but of course they don't
actually have their own.


 

offline b6662966 from ? on 2007-02-13 05:19 [#02049507]
Points: 1110 Status: Lurker



Yea I agree this card is more evenly matched than the first.
I mean shit fuckin butterbean fought. Im definitely driving
down to Vegas for that weekend, but weather or not we get
tickets to the show still remains to be seen. I heard most
of the fighters just chill at the Ceasars Palace swimming
pool getting drunk, so were probably checking that out.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-02-13 05:23 [#02049508]
Points: 12878 Status: Addict



oh fucking hell


 

offline swift_jams from big sky on 2007-02-13 10:39 [#02049605]
Points: 7577 Status: Lurker



Still highly considering it if I can't find anything
worthwhile by the month's end. To do these "other things in
life" you all are suggesting because of any "talent" I may
have, I need to go back to college. I have NO money to go to
college right now, and the way to get money is by working,
right? Well, I can't find a job, (even at McDonalds). So, no
easy job > no money > no college > no better job. THAT's why
I'm saying the air force might be good. Besides, OFFUT AFB
(StratComm) is here in Omaha. I'd be good if I did it.


 

offline dave_g from United Kingdom on 2007-02-13 10:42 [#02049609]
Points: 3372 Status: Lurker



video link to the A10 pilots "blue on blue", which Ceri
mentioned...
Bunch of cowboys.



 

offline swift_jams from big sky on 2007-02-13 10:44 [#02049610]
Points: 7577 Status: Lurker



No one seems to get my point.


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2007-02-13 10:54 [#02049614]
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the whole thing's a joke, right?


 

offline mimi on 2007-02-13 11:05 [#02049623]
Points: 5721 Status: Regular



did you know you're not allowed to do it doggystyle in the
military? im not joking, they have a rule


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-02-13 11:18 [#02049625]
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I felt sympathy for air-crew when they showed the event on
BBC television.


 

offline i_x_ten from arsemuncher on 2007-02-13 11:33 [#02049628]
Points: 10031 Status: Regular



xlt: swift_jams' personal journal blog and some electronic
music as well.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-02-13 11:39 [#02049635]
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g_lol


 

offline OK on 2007-02-13 11:58 [#02049645]
Points: 4791 Status: Lurker



so why can´t you get a part time job, go to comunity
college. instead of joining the air force going to comunity
college, serving fro 20 years and retiring?

army are easy solution for people with no options i.e.
uneducated people. i don't think you're uneducated.


 

offline OK on 2007-02-13 11:58 [#02049647]
Points: 4791 Status: Lurker



if you can't get a job you're not trying.


 

offline Akira from out of space on 2007-02-13 12:04 [#02049648]
Points: 185 Status: Lurker



dont!!! you'll get out of it all brain washed!


 

offline i_x_ten from arsemuncher on 2007-02-13 12:24 [#02049656]
Points: 10031 Status: Regular



theres nothing wrong with wanting to join the armed forces,
it can offer good prospects. and politics aside, and i
admire the job they do. regardless of the politics of war or
justification or morality or whatever, your countries armed
forces are there to get their arses kicked or kick arse so
you don't have to.

if however you join with the mentality of wanting an easy
life you'll be in for a shock and you'll fucking hate it.



 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2007-02-13 12:46 [#02049660]
Points: 19377 Status: Regular



test


 

offline edgey from New York (United States) on 2007-02-13 12:47 [#02049661]
Points: 408 Status: Regular | Followup to i_x_ten: #02049656



Actually, I'd consider a life in the military to be easier
than normal life... You don't have to make any decisions,
everythings thought out for you, from the socks you put on
in the morning, to the lunch you eat, to every aspect of
your daily routine.


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2007-02-13 13:22 [#02049669]
Points: 22557 Status: Lurker



my cousin joined the national guard and his "shift or
whatever" lasted untill right after 9/11

they tried to bully everyone into enlisting again, saying
they had to sign something that got them back in

it was like him and one other dude who didnt sign back up,
they spent a couple hours telling everyone they had to


 

offline edgey from New York (United States) on 2007-02-13 13:46 [#02049682]
Points: 408 Status: Regular



Appropriate.

LAZY_PIC


 

offline ebolawasher from Dublin (Ireland) on 2007-02-13 15:55 [#02049734]
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Unless the US army band needs a new pompom semaphore, I
can't imagine you being a us army member who would be of any
use. I'm a big fan of war. You don't have the character to
be an effective soldier. You might be smarter than the
average US soldier, but that's hardly a challenge. Though,
having just thought of some poxy two-frame swift_jam.gif on
Dan Rather's Fallen Heroes, I'd say go for it. You're a
fucking clown anyway! ha ha!


 

offline QRDL from Poland on 2007-02-13 16:05 [#02049739]
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He would make a great tattooist. Are tattoos allowed in the
army?


 

offline edgey from New York (United States) on 2007-02-13 16:14 [#02049740]
Points: 408 Status: Regular | Followup to QRDL: #02049739



Actually tattoo's are not allowed in the military, it's
considered destruction of government property (I kid you
not!).

Also, to be stated again, he's interested in the AF, not the
Army, *big* difference.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-02-13 17:02 [#02049760]
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that's army strong!

swift: better to go live with your mom; she doesn't kill
people.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-02-13 17:03 [#02049762]
Points: 24588 Status: Lurker | Followup to edgey: #02049740



Members of the US armed forces are seen as Government
property? That's incredible. So, instead of saying 'wow,
there's been a whole bunch of human being dressed up in
combat gear killed over in Iraq', we should say 'there's
been a lotta Government Property irreparably damaged
over in Iraq' ?


 

offline stilaktive from a place on 2007-02-13 18:30 [#02049782]
Points: 3162 Status: Lurker



Just become a jungle woman in Cambodia


 


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