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Archrival
on 2006-09-01 14:40 [#01963715]
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yeah chosenlord had some sweet tracks on it :D
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pigster
from melbs on 2006-09-01 18:57 [#01963782]
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ahh THat ep thing : )
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lucifer
on 2006-09-01 19:59 [#01963793]
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I listened to this leak today but fell asleep, will listen to it tomorow again.
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cx
from Norway on 2006-09-01 21:08 [#01963800]
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springtime epigram turned me off cause it sounds so much like boc its almost a ripoff. both in mood and actual technicality.
this goes for dew in mouth as well..
matthew unburduned is one of the better tracks, but to me, this whole album isn't that good.
beneath the layers of compression, noise and sound, there isn't all that much content.
what i mean by this is that I don't really hear many good SONG IDEAS.
vengeance drools for instance, it sounds like prodigy, only more compressed and louder.
it seems he has a technique that he applies on average song ideas, and then somehow creates something that sounds new.
but if the bottom song idea isn't that good, then i'm sorry but its only half as good as it can be.
i mean if you really listen to the tracks, there aren't that many new ideas in rhythm and composition, nor in arrangement or melody.
not that music that follows a certainly formula can't be good, but in this case i feel he hasn't quite pulled it off.
not for me anyway.
one last thing, i do appreciate what he's trying to do, but i think he did it better on his last album.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-09-01 22:39 [#01963810]
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he should just change his name (again) to "Sounds Like..." and we can all go home.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2006-09-02 11:19 [#01963998]
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the first track is good. the rest of the tracks aren't very original sounding to me. i hear autechre, BOC, aphex twin, prefuse, amon tobin... but i don't hear anything distinctly chris clark. shit when i first listened to 'Matthew Unburdened" i thought it was a remix of autechre's 'Vietrmx 21.' then 'Night Knuckles,' which is very pretty btw, sounds like a slightly harsher remix of aphex's 'nannou.' i mean i like it, but jeez, does clark even have a 'signature sound?' or is his 'thing' is that he is a Warp doppelganger?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-09-02 14:00 [#01964062]
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yes. and people seem to like it that way.
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staz
on 2006-09-02 14:05 [#01964064]
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i think he was more distinct previously, to be honest.
anyway, my biggest problem with this album is just how loud and void of any real dynamic it is. just sounds like it's about the heavy production and how thumpy and obnoxious it can be. the "ripoff" factor is so so, 99% of music is pretty derivative anyway, and i think he's got some cunning ideas in there on tracks like frau wav and dew in the mouth (medulla b-side? ^_____^). it mostly sounds like empty crap, though.
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cx
from Norway on 2006-09-02 19:11 [#01964148]
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i think some of the reasons why people like it is because it tells them something about what the music is trying to convey.
like if i listen to a track, i can appreciate not only the music itself, but also waht lifestyle, mood, intention etc the track and track maker has.
it's like you are living a part of his life, or you are transported into another world that you like, and thus you like the music.
the music doesnt even have to be that good as long as it has those signals.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2006-09-02 19:39 [#01964153]
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your review makes me feel emotional too.
this is the kind of emotion it is... except messier:
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Babaouo
from Dolce (Monaco) on 2006-09-02 20:12 [#01964160]
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anybody for a little Extend?
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obara
from Utrecht on 2006-09-03 03:08 [#01964202]
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bollocks
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-04 14:21 [#01965318]
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yeah! arsewipe!
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-09-04 14:26 [#01965325]
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He's one of the second generation of Warp musicians, like Claro, who instead being influenced by Jungle, Techno, Ambient, Hip Hop etc, is influenced by...earlier Warp musicians.
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-04 14:31 [#01965329]
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whos claro? you mean brothomstates, you noob!
boards of canada (remember, they joined warp quite late) [chris] clark brothomstates quinoline yellow
the new generation of IDM - is this IDM2?
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-09-04 14:34 [#01965335]
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Yeah, all I remember is hearing that Claro Intellecto record and thinking that it was pretty unoriginal....
Nah, BOC have their own sound, they signed in '97-'98 perhaps the last of the 1st gen.
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-05 02:12 [#01965632]
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just ordered body riddle from warpmart
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melack
from barcielwave on 2006-09-05 05:22 [#01965682]
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well, you didnt like analord at the beggining, neither... :)
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melack
from barcielwave on 2006-09-05 05:23 [#01965683]
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wtf! hahaha i just forgot about the second page... lets forget it...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2006-09-05 07:15 [#01965720]
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i was blinded with analord 10 (which btw isn't my fav one anymore) but aphex and clark are two different things tho. the thing is i just like to see some effort put in in terms of songwriting.
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Archrival
on 2006-09-05 12:07 [#01965895]
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songwriting LOL!!!! :D come on Tolstoyed, what are you talking about? please exaplain.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2006-09-05 12:19 [#01965899]
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im talking about being able to write a song, which clark obviously isn't :)
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Archrival
on 2006-09-05 13:25 [#01965946]
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hey ,hey hes very very able to make nice nice music, dont know why you talking about "songwriting", sounds like you wants him to do stuff like good singer/songwriters like that, but yeah I dont think Clark sits down and "write" music like that...its sounds so strange, I mean the words songwriter and Clark in the same sentence, I see CLark more as a producer/sound explorer and making ace tunes..songwriter, nah he doesnt make songs just phat tracks thats it ;)
u mean like a good composition, like the way he structure tracks and builds it up or melody changes or melodies or what do you mean?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2006-09-05 16:04 [#01966016]
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autechre explore sound and do stuff with it. clark seems more like he's playing with sounds..
we can't all like same stuff so it's all good
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-09-05 16:12 [#01966019]
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Just so we're all "clear" (little joke for the linguists), here's a handy Reference guide to the word Claro as pertaining to recent techno / IDM.
Brothomsates - musician Claro - an excellent album by Brothomstates Claro Intelecto - musician Neurofibro - an excellent album by Claro Intelecto
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2006-09-06 01:01 [#01966159]
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i loved BOC's TCH probably as much as you do so when i saw you creaming about this i was like, excited to hear it. but now i think it's crappy. i still love TCH though. listen to it practically every day still. but this.. this body riddle. i think it's crappy. what i'm trying to say is,
YOU LET ME DOWN!!
jerk.
:D
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obara
from Utrecht on 2006-09-06 01:15 [#01966160]
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i like body riddle. good album.
shoot me
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Archrival
on 2006-09-06 02:20 [#01966183]
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sorry mate, a missunderstanding...this certainly aint no TCH and thats for sure, and I hope I didnt write that in my recommendation...but Its a great album and one of the best albums so far this year.
You should have asked me mate if its as good as or even close to TCH :D then there wouldnt have been a problem :P
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2006-09-06 03:02 [#01966184]
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This album is good but it dosent touch Clarence Park and it dosent even come CLOSE to Empty the Bones.
Ted, however, is as good as any of the best songs on those albums.
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melack
from barcielwave on 2006-09-06 05:22 [#01966229]
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i hope clark doesnt read this thread, he will became a bit sad, as ive read he almost see body riddle as his deffinitive album or something. it seems that he has put lots of effort (?) on it...
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2006-09-06 10:46 [#01966349]
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he might cry and write depressing songs
wouldn't mind hearing that though
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2006-09-06 11:52 [#01966378]
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naw, i just thought i could trust your judgement. but it would seem tastes can be similar and still very different.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2006-09-06 11:56 [#01966380]
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"Im quite chocked at the moment and havent been excited like
this since I first heard Roygbiv back in 98."
"You should have asked me mate if its as good as or even close to TCH :D then there wouldnt have been a problem :P "
this seems like a clash to me..like you were overexited at first and have calmed sown after you read all the comments by people who don't see this as particulary good release.
i have nothing personal against clark btw, it's just his music that is dubious :)
if he reads this thread he might try and actually do something good :-)
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Archrival
on 2006-09-06 14:47 [#01966501]
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:/ seems like to be excited is a bad thing around these electronic music forums...:( yeah, I was very happy when I heard the album and today I was amazed how goood the album is when me and a friend (Sejd on this forum) chilled out to it, reallly nice experience...dont take everything to litterally...its easily one of the best albums this year, hands down...its not better than TCH. It has some tracks thats as good as a lot of tracks on Music Has the right or even better than some tracks on it...whats the deal?
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nacmat
on 2006-09-13 10:19 [#01970220]
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this album is great.
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melack
from barcielwave on 2006-09-13 10:43 [#01970226]
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youre are great too. its nice to see comments by you in other threads, not only in yours... althought it means a shorter way to the 30000...
please, leave this stupid idea and be happy.
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Archrival
on 2006-09-13 14:01 [#01970346]
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was that meant to me?! if...why are you friendly to me? I get paranoid when people are friendly on these kind of forums :P its scary, so unusual...im going home this is too scary :(..going to listen to freescha on my way home,by the way, their new album is stunning, have to make a new topic about that one before im leaving :D nice melack, u gave me a good idea to "big up" freescha, they deserve it, top notch stuff!!!! :D
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2006-09-13 14:41 [#01970365]
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body riddle is great empty the bones is timeless
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Archrival
on 2006-09-13 14:49 [#01970371]
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album of the year.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-09-13 14:53 [#01970376]
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If the year in question was 1998.
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Archrival
on 2006-09-13 15:05 [#01970393]
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ok, dog belch let me have you hmm lets say top 5 then in no particular order, you can have mine then (you obviously dont want it but anyway :P)
:D
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Archrival
on 2006-09-13 15:09 [#01970396]
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let me have your top 5 album of the year list I mean :D
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-09-13 15:20 [#01970407]
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I was going to actually try but anything I thought of was a reissue, so, make of that what you will.
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Anus_Presley
on 2006-09-13 15:23 [#01970410]
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omg, all this time and it's Archrival not Archival.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2006-09-13 16:22 [#01970426]
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good album with very good moments
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Archrival
on 2006-09-14 06:03 [#01970620]
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Vengeance Drools! mmmmmm "Archrival droooooools" :D
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melack
from barcielwave on 2006-09-14 11:31 [#01970751]
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mmm if you are refering to my last post before this one, no, it wasnt for you, i was talking to nacmat. if im being friendly to you is because i like the way you talk about certain albums that i will finally be loving and thinking similar things as you... but, errrm, sorry if i have scared you... o_O
ill try not to be friendly anymore... (?!?!?)
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nacmat
on 2006-09-14 13:43 [#01970806]
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melack is like the nicotine in a cigarrette... the addicting part
visca el melack
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Archrival
on 2006-09-14 14:18 [#01970813]
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hehe no no Melack be friendly :D thats the way to go :D it was just bad sarcasm on my side :D its nice to be important but its even more important to be nice :D
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Archrival
on 2006-09-15 06:15 [#01971200]
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fav at the moment = Frau Wav
least fav = Night Knuckles
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