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have you ever eaten a banana ? |
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evolume might like this: some german guy reckons he's worked out where echinoderms get their pentaradiality from - apparently from a sessile pterobranch. and he reckons hemichordates are not stem-group deuterostomes but reduced chordates. |
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what sort fo idiot would think that! |
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Who or what is the HOLY SPIRIT? |
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in the words of Eddie Izard "ooooo HOLY GHOST OOOOOO" |
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i completly agree with i_x_ten about people blaming a higher existance on things they don't understand, most every culture has done it, ancient greek, egyptian, aztec, whatever. they have gods for the sun, the moon, war, health, inundations and prosperity. that is abit off the topic though, i find evolution much easier to believe that all the animals and species were created seperatly, gorillas and chimps are very close to humans. especially physically and gorillas or chimps (not sure which) are intellectually the equivalent of roughly 8 year olds. i mean, if the closest species there was too human was an elephant, then i might be skeptical, but there are lots of similar species all through out nature that evolved from one another, evolution is going on now, it take thousands for there to be any obvious show of it. |
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i think people who criticise evolution obviously don't know enough about it |
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that is SO TRUE! you get creationists saying the most ludicrous shit, getting evolution confused with the big bang and cosmology. the "why are monkeys stil laround" thing is another good example of how they know jack shit about what they are talking about. p.s. if you think kent hovind is a good creationist, you should die. |
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evolution is real hippos are always on water |
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Natural Selection vs. Natural drift DISCUSS!!! |
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it's a problem. they hear a little about it, decide it's wrong and then avoid it at all costs. not even considering looking into it. it's like they choose to deny the facts. |
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yeah man you are right they will be like whales on future, is that what means e v o l u t i o n ? |
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yep. many a time ive been on creationist forums and theyre all "so where are the transitional fossils?" showing that they know fuck all. so then i go and list about 20 "transitional" arthropods from the burgess shale, and strangely, no one replies to it. they know literally nothing, and blatantly ignore any evidence they are aware of. they keep going on about piltdown man aswell, as if it has some sort of bearing on evolutionary theory. YES WE KNOW IT WAS A FAKE! WE FOUND THAT OUT 50 YEARS AGO!!! |
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i might sign up to a christian forum. i can see myself getting banned pretty quick though. |
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i like muslim ones. their creation stories are much more fun. |
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evolution also has a more plausable answer, in that monkeys and gorillas are different species. same reason you cant fly. |
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a monkey didnt one day just give birth to a person, btw |
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precisely what Kent Hovind thinks evolution is about - "how come monkeys aren't giving birth to humans today?" |
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oh dear. thats quite alarming really |
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monkeys stayed in the jungle. the other dudes didnt. |
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why did the Brazilian football team evolve better than all the rest? |
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i will not post in this stupid thread. i will not post in this stupid thread. i will not post in this stupid thread. ah fuck. |
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i agree ah fuck too |
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Why haven't ALL lifeforms evolved into humans then, eh? Like that seagull tridenti had hot sex with. |
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0_o |
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the semen of god. |
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dinosaurs are scared of the basement |
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insane christian video |
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although this guy's pretty hot |
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the big bang may be wrong but creationism is even more wrong |
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Why can't they just say "I believe in god, but god is beyond the natural universe, and whatever the scientists wanna say is fine by me cause proof denies faith and all that shit yo dawg," |
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well hello I'm sorry, but you don't seem to know what your on about.. neither you nor mr ten.. people haven't been all "oh, we don't understand it therefore it is god" and no-one does that. it's more "these findings are incompatible with my beliefs, so they are untrue" which really is the most basic assumption in the world; everyone does it and it is as common within sciences as outside them. make sure you actually know what you're criticising or you're just as bad as whoever it would be you're criticising (which wouldn't be many people); you don't understand, so you make something up and criticise that instead... |
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*not many out of those you intended on criticising that is all |
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"oh, we don't understand it therefore it is god" what the bloody hell are you on about? of course people throughout the ages thought that. people thought that the weather and climate were acts of god(s), for example.... "these findings are incompatible with my beliefs, so they are untrue" is completley different. most people will belive the most rational explanation for something, until it can be proved, or rather disproved. only then if it causes conflict with someones religious beliefs will they choose to disregard it. |
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Watched the first few minutes of this. It's so funny when he says "I love reading Science books" and all the books on the projector screen that he quotes look like school textbooks for 13 year olds. ROFL |
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oh save it I had lots and lots about this in history of ideas and we read some old texts (diaries and reports mostly.. of course the earliest diaries were priests' as no-one else could write, but there were occasional instances of other people who one way or another had gotten an education who wrote diaries) and if you are going to criticise the people of old (which daggerhappy did.. you didn't until now).. well.. you can't criticise them for going "I don't understand; it must be god," as they couldn't have not understood something they didn't try to understand; their belief in god made it so that they didn't feel a need to understand. In fact none of the records of natural phenomena of any kind go "oh, I don't understand why these weird fiery-like things fall from the sky," but rather "god showed his anger at [insert recent event] by letting fire rain from the sky." |
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he makes some good arguments against the big bang HOWEVER all the time he is saying "so the universe came out of an explosion! everything came from nothing" and there i am thinking "well if you believe in god then you must think that god made everything from nothing too" by criticising science he's criticising himself! |
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and your last statement.. well first of all what one finds to be rational depends on ones view of the world; there is no universal rational principle that dictates what is rational and what isn't and there are lots of scientific theories that aren't even halfway rational (like atom theory, evolution, plate tectonics, both quantum and normal physics, etc). |
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well yeah ok whatever, i don't really care that much. you're in a right touchy mood. |
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He doesn't make good arguments against the big bang except "I don't understand it and there has been a lot of debate around it" he's mental, like everybody who thinks they can prove or disprove the existance of a supernatural being using science. |
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I just pointed out that you were criticising someone for doing something you yourself was doind in the same act of criticising; you bit your tail. |
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...yes, and for being the best arguer in this online forum, you win TEH INTERNETS!!x10000!!!11 congratulations! you should be very proud... |
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i'm glad this has finally been settled. |
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What an obnoxious fucker. He does so much harm by making the dumbasses feel proud of themselves that he deserves to be isolated on Galapagos. |
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You want to watch it till the Colorado Canyon theory and the "Darwin was a racist" part |
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1:26:30 and forth -> WOW Fucking dragons |
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if he can't even do the simple research to figure out how heavier elements "evolved" into hydrogen, this man does not deserve the title of Dr. |
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he's not just some doctor, he's Dr Dino: |
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And I believe you meant "from". |
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i tired to watch it, but i just can't anymore. this guy is infuriatingly misinformed and ignorant. it would be fairly easy to give a very convincing lecture questioning the bible by asking the very same questions. but i guess their answer for everything would just be, "god made it that way." it's pretty easy to explain something when your entire body of evidence consists of a divine, all-powerful being. at least science is able to seek higher knowledge and understanding (whether it's correct or not) rather than blindly accepting the word of something like "god" as truth. |
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