 |
|
You are not logged in! F.A.Q Log in Register |
 |
|
 |
 Now online (2)big recycle ...and 306 guests Last 5 registered Oplandisks nothingstar N_loop yipe foxtrotromeo Browse members... |
 |
Members 8025Messages 2614123 Today 2 Topics 127542 |
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
*religious belief |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
surely "belief" is an unsupported opinion? anyway, who gives a shit, whinging about definitions and proving god is crap, and never goes anywhere. evolution is more fun |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
I think it's more like oscillating |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
you're saying the the more we learn, the more questions are raised? |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
two people argue, one person doubts. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
no, that's just opinion. belief is the best you can do in any case. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
ah. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
in other words: belief is a supported opinion. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
so spiritualism, and the spiritual side of religion, that are not belief? |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
I guess so. If I see a rock I know its a rock, if I read a book about rocks I learn what kind of rock, then how that rock formed, then where that rock came from, then what that rock is to me, then what am I, learning leads to dilemma, knowledge is not what we learn, its what we discover and observe. I feel like an ass for stating so much. It's all just opinions subject to change. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
yes they are they are supported by the bible and the world around you |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
the spirit exist..oh yeah..can you feel it? |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
some people are not prone to feel it ..its all a divine plan |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
supported by the bible, yes i have never seen anything in the world around me that supports anything spiritual, nor has anyone i know |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
the more dominant religions are only so rife because they have books to support them. how successful would have christianity been without a bible? |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
..oh yeah.. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
god created it |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
ive never seen anything that supports that over any other idea. certainly never seen god creating anything. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
well, be that as it may, it is indeed support for christian beliefs |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
it definately meets their criteria |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
it meets any criteria for supporting that belief.. your criteria are not different, but your beliefs are. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
evolution is real whether you believe in it or not. no matter what you may read on the infernet. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
i'm glad this has finally been settled. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
The displacement of the idea that facts and evidence matter by the idea that everything boils down to subjective interests and perspectives is -- second only to American political campaigns -- the most prominent and pernicious manifestation of anti-intellectualism in our time. -- Larry Laudan, Science and Relativism (1990) Seeee? Mister Laudan here sais that Drunken Mastah is a Texas hick. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
my criteria are different i want evidence that can be validated, is plentiful therefore more reliable, ties in with other evidence, and if in the form of an experiment, one that can be repeated. thats not faith! |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
I'm not anti-intellectualistic.. or, well, I may even be that at times, but I don't know what you mean by the expression.. I'm not against higher education (I'm doing that myself, so...), but I AM against intellectuals, when addressing people outside of their own field of study still use the terms that are most likely only known to people that study what they study; for public information you should use a language that everyone can understand. However in this case I am being critical and I must say that some people need a bit more critical perspective on things for their relationship towards it to be healthy. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
still no difference in criteria, just difference in beliefs; you don't accept their evidence as evidence of what they accept it as being evidence for because you don't believe in what they take it as evidence for. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
i believe in wizards, hobbits and the ring of power. i read a very convincing book about it. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
most of your "knowledge" comes from books or stuff you read or hear or somehow come by second-hand. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
|
Messageboard index
|
|||||||||
