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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2005-10-06 06:16 [#01742499]
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OH COME ON.. musically nirvana was nothing, it was the circumstances around them that made them big.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-10-06 06:19 [#01742502]
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yeah well, we can't all like same music.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2005-10-06 06:38 [#01742508]
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it has nothing to do with the "like" term.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2005-10-06 07:11 [#01742529]
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we definitely need someone to come along and break the mold. i can't even listen to radio anymore - most of the rock is so bad and according to formula that it literally causes me physical pain to listen to it.
i'm not sure we'll ever have another revolution in rock - mainly because there's so many genres and subgenres now that they have all become autonomous of one another.
frank black said it best, "it's easy to become famous these days." but staying famous, much less being REVOLUTIONARY, that's a whole other ball of wax entirely.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-10-06 08:56 [#01742633]
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YEAH NIRVANASA WAS SGOOODDDDDD YEAAAHHH
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nacmat
on 2005-10-06 08:59 [#01742636]
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I love nirvana... but we dont need another nirvana or anything similar... we need to wait and enjoy what future brings us, unless us ourselfs start doing the new revolution (those who make music)
there is always a new turn
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Anus_Presley
on 2005-10-06 09:05 [#01742642]
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I don't agrree. I don't see why.
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Anus_Presley
on 2005-10-06 09:06 [#01742643]
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I get my fairr dose of fantastic music as it is. I don't need to hearr it on the rradio and SMTV:Live
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-10-06 09:25 [#01742664]
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i agree with cuntychuck, nirvana didn't break any mold or strike any new ground, they assumed a style and even had to go to court and pay a settlement for ripping off another artist. the mark they made was a consequence of their commercial success, not their innovation.
that said, i think they were good at what they did, rudimentary lofi pop rock with expensive production.
i'd rather i didn't have an opinion about this, but what's done is done i suppose...
the last thing the world needs is more rock music.
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staz
on 2005-10-06 09:28 [#01742665]
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I really wanna start a band but I don't really know anyone who would be interested.
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2005-10-06 09:36 [#01742680]
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Try here
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-10-06 09:38 [#01742681]
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i'm interested, if we can call the band "staz and the razzle dazz" and do a mix of glam rock and the teletubbies.
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staz
on 2005-10-06 09:39 [#01742683]
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Sounds brilliant. I have a low budget microphone just aching to be used. We'll probably need more than two members, though.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-10-06 09:40 [#01742685]
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i'm sure i can serve as at least three different members.
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staz
on 2005-10-06 09:41 [#01742688]
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Well I can sing and dance and play some merry melodies. Would be cool with a real drummer though. Wouldn't even have to be very good.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-10-06 09:44 [#01742690]
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i can sing like mariah carey, after a terrible car accident that claims most of the octaves. but more importantly, i'm very handsome and photogenic. we can't lose!
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2005-10-06 09:44 [#01742691]
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Can I play kazoo in Staz and the Razzle Dazz?
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-10-06 09:45 [#01742696]
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i dunno, CAN YOU!?!?!
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2005-10-06 09:47 [#01742699]
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not very well, but you can practise in my garage...
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staz
on 2005-10-06 09:48 [#01742704]
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Your garage stinks of cat food and immigrants.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-10-06 09:48 [#01742707]
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i don't think so, it smells funny in there. staz and i might reconsider if you get rid of the moldy mattress in the corner, though...
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-10-06 09:49 [#01742708]
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and the cats and the immigrants.
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2005-10-06 09:49 [#01742712]
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but my mum wont let me bring prostitutes into the house
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staz
on 2005-10-06 09:52 [#01742722]
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Then you should stop asking your "girlfriend" to come over.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-10-06 09:53 [#01742724]
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look, man, do you want in on the razzle dazz or what?!?!? there's probably four or five other people who are soiling themselves with the desire to kazoo for the razz right this moment!
you can borrow staz's place for entertaining purposes.
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ToXikFB
on 2005-10-06 09:53 [#01742725]
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"The ballad of kurt cobain" . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . YOU'RE DEAD!
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-10-06 09:55 [#01742728]
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un unreleased gem from the stormtroopers of death archives?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-10-06 09:57 [#01742734]
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i like their music before they got famous better. im glad they got famous just so i got to know them, but their music and hype around them are two different things imo.
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ToXikFB
on 2005-10-06 09:59 [#01742739]
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live @ cbgb's, i forget the year
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-10-06 10:02 [#01742750]
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you're talking about staz and the razzle dazz, aren't you? because in that case, i absolutely agree.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-10-06 10:06 [#01742754]
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can you tell me what your favourite rock band is? and what contemporary rock band you liek the most?
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2005-10-06 10:16 [#01742763]
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demo cassette cover
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-10-06 10:19 [#01742767]
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thanks for asking. i'm not too big on rock music these days, but i liked interpol's first album quite a lot. i've been known to enjoy some super furry animals, especially their first album, but it's nearly ten years since that came out. i haven't heard the most recent weezer, but i liked the first, third and fourth albums here and there.
my favorite rock album is probably "mouth by mouth" by his name is alive, although "stars on esp" by the same band would give it a run for its money. i think "everything's alright forever" by the boo radleys is great. i'm sure there's a lot that i don't immediately recall.
i like pink floyd when they were piloted by syd barrett. and the dark side of the moon.
i like the first boston album.
i like the first five or so ramones albums.
i like a lot of odds and ends, like "walk don't run" by the ventures. or "the tra la la song" by the banana splits.
my tastes are idiosyncratic and should not be trusted, mostly.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-10-06 10:21 [#01742768]
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"tape head opening" and "pressure pad" would be great names for the a-side, and the b-side, respectively!
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2005-10-06 10:24 [#01742771]
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2005-10-06 13:30 [#01742955]
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nirvana's success helped to kill what was happening in the early 90s
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2005-10-06 13:31 [#01742958]
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Not a lot was happening in the early 90's, was it?
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2005-10-06 13:55 [#01742989]
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for me there was though. bands like Alice in Chains, Pearljam, Fishbone, RHCP, Primus... successful and popular bands had very distinct styles. nowadays there's more cloning going on. now whenever i turn on the radio it's clone after clone playing soulless noise. the vocal style that Alice in Chains' frontman originated is now copied by many.
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-06 14:00 [#01742991]
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any one heard lightning bolt ?? they r amazing!!
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OK
on 2005-10-06 20:12 [#01743187]
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mainstream is just fine nowadays, thank you. don't mess with it for now please.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-10-07 07:15 [#01743366]
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what do i get for answering your question? i want a cookie, or something...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-10-07 08:38 [#01743456]
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haha, well, i just wanted to see why you would think nirvana wasan't something special musically :)
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Q4Z2X
on 2005-10-07 13:36 [#01743755]
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Even if Nirvana wasn't the greatest thing, they are better than most bands that reached their level of popularity. They wrote music about something, even though much of it seemed to be about being angsty.
I guess the problem now, is that the world is getting gradually more fucked up and it's not being represented at all in music, or at least not in a non-annoying or heavy-handed way. There seems to be little music left that has any sort of relevance to anything other than mindlessly feeling good.. It's all mindless dancey popgarbage or throwback feel-good garage rock derivative shit, and the stuff with a meaning at the forefront is hushed by that bombartment. I'm not saying that that sort of stuff isn't to be enjoyed by anyone, ever. It just gets sickening. There's only so much candy you can stomach.
The whole problem is that, now more than ever, if anyone has their music heard by the masses through the music industry and the intended meaning of their music is to point of the bad of society or show some sort of higher regard for humanity than most, they will likely be labelled as hypocrites. I don't think Nirvana had that sort of message in their music, but their whole aspect of sounding or acting 'underground' while being mainstream seemed to show that they were trying to expand popular music to include something more heartfelt and less of an industry-puppet sorta thing. I guess they became a sort of antipuppet puppet in the process and sort of collapsed upon this realization.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2006-03-17 06:25 [#01861726]
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r40f, i was definitelly thinking avantgarde oriented. because i'd think you need some knowledge for non avantgarde music and i don't have any :)
anyway, i was listening to nirvana again last night and it makes me wonder why no one makes that sort of rock music anymore..i wish the late 80's would repeat all over again. that was some ace time music wise!
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2006-03-17 06:54 [#01861753]
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I despise Nirvana, always have. I discovered like 12 bands last week that are miles better.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2006-03-17 06:56 [#01861757]
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yes, but you probably find dillinger escape plan to be better too so it's not a big deal :)
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2006-03-17 06:58 [#01861760]
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Not the same sort of music though is it? I always thought Cobain could structure songs well but compared to other bands of their ilk at the time they were lacking, and they sound positively quaint these days. Boston of the 90's
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2006-03-17 07:04 [#01861765]
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they had the misfortune of being signed to a big label. they were doing fantastic music before that, much less polished..also they sounded way better live..you don't see many rock bands experimenting that much..not sure what you meant with boston reference.
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glasseater
from Switzerland on 2006-03-17 07:08 [#01861770]
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we need a good suicide like nirvana
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big
from lsg on 2006-03-17 07:08 [#01861771]
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kurt always wanted to be famous and be on a big label
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