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could be, but once he got there he wasn't too happy about it. |
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that's why i hate him, i have no sympathy for his suicide whatsoever, exept on some general human compassion level of course it's just all about the music |
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We really need more flat singing, angst and nonsensical lyrics. Nirvana were a good group, but I have a feeling they'd be about 1/2 as legendry, had Mr. Cobain not blown his brains out. |
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that 'smells like teen spirit' voicing the the opinions of an entire generation argument while i couldn't make any sense of it drives me nuts too |
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such a sorry for himself petty person |
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there are very few good bands anymore. perhaps my tastes have changed (or haven't changed with new music) but i cannot enjoy most modern rock music. the only bands i enjoy listening to that are "newer" are the Bronx, Death From Above 1979, Eagles of Death Metal, Blood Brothers, etc. i don't know of any good punk bands, and i still like to listen to punk. i guess they were right about punk being dead. |
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i often get idea (even in this thread) people only know one side of nirvana. the most obvious one, the most hyped one. there was a lot more to them.. |
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i know it all i like the later stuff better because it's somewhat more intricate |
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i don't remember when was the last time i listened any of their proper albums. i only listen to that with the lights out thing and absolutely love it. shows what nirvana was about quite good i think. |
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...and if "nevermind" and "badmotorfinger" hadn't been released in the same time. Soundgarden could be more popular , earlier....well, speculations. |
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soundgarden and nirvana imo never had anything to do with eachother, pearl jam just wore lumberjack shirts as did kurt |
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soundgarden sucks very much. nirvana on the other hand.. |
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i always like soundgarden and pearl jam, though they don't have much in common with nirvana..i think i'll dig out alice in chains cds today, they had a couple of ace songs! |
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pearl jam and nirvana i could see, although that first album with all the soloing not i like then both, though not in a actively listening way |
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of course they have something in common. nirvana/soundgarden/pearl jam/alice in chains - they were all the superstars of tha Grunge. top hit albums, singles. those are the most popular names from that era i think. with my mates we used to hate that genre name no less than some people hate the name "idm" nowadays. |
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they were all from seattle and that's pretty much it. they were probably labeled as the same music but infact they weren't so there :) |
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they were just wrongfully piled together at the time, this is proven by the fact it the genrename is now obsolete, as far as i know. it was just lazy journalism: nono's who knew nothing about music writing about grunge like they discovered something, all serious music journalists then had to open each article about one of these bands with a statement about how dumb the category was |
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sure :) it's all the fact they came from almost the same area means something. but, of course, in time all the scene went mainstream and shit and nowhere. however, back to the topic - do we really need new Nirvana ? and if we do - are there any living strong personalities/group leaders ? who could replace icons like Cobain or Staley ? |
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no we don't need a new nirvana and i don't think it is possible anyway. the early 90's mainstream music industry was a bizarre anamoly that actually let talented artists become commercially successful. that climate simply has not existed since then in america. rap and pop are far more popular than rock now. the major labels are simply not interested in signing artists anymore - bands like sonic youth and the melvins would never be on majors now. the sad thing about nirvana is that the posthumous legend-making and hype has obliterated the truth about them - that they were one of the very best rock bands ever. period. they're in a list of important rock star genius that reads something like t rex, led zeppelin, black sabbath, nirvana. they've been hyped to death, that's the crime. the art they made, the music is what's important. |
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music was too rough for contemporary listeners..if someone started doing music like that nowdays very few would listen to it. which means majority of hype is made by people who don't even know nirvana and their music. and that's quite disturbing. i was listening to babes in toyland live today and they came pretty close to what nirvana was doing live, a bit more simple perhaps. |
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exactly. who would publish something like "confusion is sex" these days. or maybe....well, yeah, sure. if big labels' target is rap-rock or nu-metal , they wouldn't sign up something like Sonic Youth '83. |
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try these guys, I like 'em |
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this is the whole problem with today's mainstream rock in a nutshell. it is a deliberate attempt to co-opt the successful elements of popular bands and turn it into a quick product. i know why you would post this in the nirvana thread. it's like someone took the glossiest, most superficial elements of nirvana, combined them with a !!!-style-disco beat and emo singing, got dressed up like the strokes and here it is, Kill The Young. an "edgy" name, befitting the dullest of commercial music. |
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no offense to you, 010101, but this band sounds exactly like every third-rate band that wanted desperately to relive nirvana that i've ever heard. |
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nickleback rock! yeah!! |
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That is what I thought when I first heard them. Listen to the other track on the site, that is what impressed me. I think they have a certain amount of originality, even though their influences can clearly be heard. |
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oh man nickleback, my cousin's gf said it was good (and they do like good stuff generally), i was like 'but it's pretty cliched' |
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sorry, i still would say the same thing. it's not enough to use compression and cute pauses in a pop song. the difference is that a band like nirvana flat out wrote great music. that's what's important to me in art. they weren't even that "original" themselves. they ripped off the killing joke and all that shit. but they took from influences in a good way, like black sabbath stole blues riffs. they lacked all of that pretension that is the bread and butter of almost all other commercial and pop music. they just went and rocked. |
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hey black sabbath invented heavy metal |
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I don't think anybody really invented anything, there were tons of bands that sound suspiciously like Black Sabbath before Black Sabbath existed. But Black Sabbath definitely upped the ante. |
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yea i guess i know, it's just a cool thing to believe |
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The first band the be called Heavy Metal was The Byrds! I wish I had room for useful information in my head!! |
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the strokes |
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from the mind of big: "kurt always wanted to be famous and be on a big label" "soundgarden and nirvana imo never had anything to do with eachother, pearl jam just wore lumberjack shirts as did kurt" "they were just wrongfully piled together at the time, this is proven by the fact it the genrename is now obsolete" wrongfully piled together? have you ever listened to their music and paid proper attention? |
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music schmoosic we need a new captain beefheart thats what |
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Nirvana and soundgarden are VERY different in my opinion. Pearl and soundgarden... well thats more seeable maybe. |
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No we don`t. THat is the problem, EVERYTHING is trying to be the new nirvana. Taffmonster your avatar is awesome! |
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dude Last on in is a rotten egg. |
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on=one |
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nirvana tried soo hard to be just like the melvins, but after cobain realised that he was nothing more than a generic commercial ripoff of a genre inventing and defining band, he looked timidly at a picture of his crack whore slut wife and realised that the smartest and only thing to do was to run away and hide in a sad attempt at legendary status by blasting a hole through the untapped potential piece of his cortex...that being said, their unplugged album is really one of my favs to go back to once in a blue moon |
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cobain had a respect for melvins from what i know..i don't think he was trying to rip them off. music was quite different, melvins were closer to classic rock and nirvana went more punk rock.. |
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ahahahaaaa...lol....classic rock? wtf have you ever listened to the melvins?...the only thing cobain had respect for was crushed oxycontens and how king buzzo tuned his guitar |
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omg jav classic rock = bb king lol jav |
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we must have a different perception of classic rock then :) |
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also, if buzz and cobain didn't have respect for each other i doubt they'd be such friends (from what i know)..and i doubt melvins would tour with nirvana and i doubt they would collaborate.. |
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buzzo respected cobain because he swallowed more than bullets |
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ive listened to nevermind and ten a lot, for me with the soloing pearl jam focussed on technicality which nirvana didn't and therefor it's different. even more so with soundgarden. the lumberjack shirts goes a bit deeper into some attitude that could be similar between nirvana and pearl jam. but my point is is that it's a pretty big stretch puting all three together in this grunge genre. so you have just pearl jam and nirvana, that's two bands that make a genre. all the others (that i don't know) were probably fake or post-grunge right away |
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does "kurt always wanted to be famous and be on a big label" have anything to do with this genre discussion? |
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you sound like an idiot. the last sentence is so telling. all the people who didn't see anything more to the music than a melody are the ones who only listen to that pussy acoustic album. "oh, i don't like rock music to be too loud! i just want nirvana to play quiet pop things!" that's your own lack of understanding of the music. also the melvins were and are hugely influenced by classic rock. it's just a fact. |
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ho'ever, thank gosh Soundgarden continued where B.Sabbath/Led Zeppelin continued |
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