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P._NTIL is obvious for the hip hop beats V-PROC on the other hand, is just as important. it's so washed out with effects, but it's still there it's great!!!!! i could go on for draft for another 30 posts, so let me know |
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the problem with draft is that asect: dsect does what draft wanted but much better |
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what i want to say is that you try to achive something and then another person does the same that you do, but better... |
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oh come on! surripere alone is better than whole asect dsect!! :) |
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btw, im writing that review now, and it should be like two pages long, but i only wrote the intoduction so far and it's over half page already :) i like ae and untilted a lot! <3 |
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No, I can see where nacmat is comming from. I see lots of similarities between the two releases, and asect:dsect sounds a lot more impressive and polished to me. I find Untilted more enjoyable than either release, however. |
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you like autechre? the world is about to crash then |
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i will like them until the new aphex twin album i think :) |
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DO WE EVEN HAVe TO MENTION THE WICKED FAT BEATS ON RENIFORM PULS? YOU GUYS NEED TO UPGRADE YOUR LOW END SOUND SYSTEM. |
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*ahem* unmatched funkiness on 6ie.cr anybody? oh and my notfinalatall verdict on untilted is that where draft is hiphop, untilted is dance, and when autechre does dance it starts to sound too generic for some reason. its a great album at all, but i could see anyone with an ear for sounds making this. draft, on the other hand, is autechre and no other. |
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Both are flawlessly executed. They acheived exactly what they wanted with each. It's just a matter of preference. |
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NO! ok yes |
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But as for asect:dsect It's really murkey and not nearly as clear and precise as Draft. Listening to it now and I think it's quite muddled, I would say distant, veiled, or slow on the attack. And as for creating a soundstage, well it does create *some space every once and a while, but nothing like the way Draft opens up. Just some pleasant and, I might say, busy use of panning (but not distinctive) |
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6ie.cr is a HEAD NODDIN track no doubt and the 2nd 1/2 is probably the most beautiful autechre ive ever heard bar none draft is the shit above all shit |
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it should one of my next poll... you stealed my idea... :-) |
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sorry for that woofer..perhaps include confield in your poll, that should make it more interesting :) |
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thx for asking... i like untilted better 'cos it has fermium on there, which i think is one of my favourite ae tracks of ever, but then again 6ie.cr is also one of them. it's hard to decide... i think the solution is to listen more ae! well, i think i liked untilted best because it was easier to comprehend it with fewer listenings, than with draft 7.30 which i had to study for a long time before "get it!" one day after i had listened to all the EPs and LPs in sequence, capping the experience by driving home and visiting the bank while listening closely to draft 7.30. it had a lot to do with learning how to apply hermeneutic interpretation to ae, since now i think i know more about how their music works, but ultimately yes you are correct that untilted took fewer listens for me to know what it was about. i think draft 7.30 is a bit more blunted or dissociated, whereas untilted is more optimistic or gregarious. gantz graf i got immediately, which you may make of it what you will. |
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it's also funny, 'cos i made a compilation of ae tracks for my friend nick who is my manager at work, and he is in his 60s i think or 50s, well i had made him a compilation of squarepusher too but he gave it back, but he kept the ae one, lol man. |
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i prefer draft, but i dont care about the subject enough to read anyone elses posts...im sure this has all been covered countless times already... |
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yes, but not in my thread! therefore this one is much better! |
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don't have either, too busy discovering and listening to other artists/bands... sorry... but here is a picture of a sorcerer's tree: |
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(illustration by Benoît Sokal) |
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i still like draft better then untilted. as mentioned: to little space, or something. and the ambience and the melodies are to low in the soundpicture. but the new stuff works excellent live on a BIG soundsystem. |
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i like draft because mathematically, no one is listening to it the same way that i am |
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are you on lsd or something? |
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:D |
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uncomparable they are both fucking fat... no comparison or competition possible. 2 styles of beats and tunes. draft is more storylike, more human, untilted is too but more DJ, showy, danceable, thats all. the cd's are constrastable but not comparable. |
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reniform puls however is better than any other songs across draft and untilted |
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"fermium on there, which i think is one of my favourite ae tracks of ever, but then again 6ie.cr is also one of them" They actually have the same chord sequence and are very similar in nature imo. One musical idea I really like in Untilted is the "pah pah pah" snare hits (like in tracks 1 and 4.) I know that sounds silly, but there's something really addictive it. |
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LCC TRIPLE HIT YOU SHOULD HAVE HEARD IT LIVE! |
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I did hear it live! I saw them in SE1. It furthered my love the triple hit even more. ;-) |
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yeah, I agree it sounds a bit silly but it´s actually adds a lot to the track untilted is a lot better than draft, I think... the melody in track 2 is just amazing! |
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I don't think it's the rhythmic idea that is silly, just the sound they use for the hit (which I personally find a bit corny.) I love track 2 as well. Especially the middle section and the whole structure overall. |
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i can't compare really, i like both albums. both have great bits and moments. and i think You can't write a genuine review not being a fan of ae music. oh, wait, i'm wrong. you CAN. is Yours a negative review, Tolst ? |
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does this mean the 900 ae clones will attempt the Triple Hit? |
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They may be able to improve upon the LCC version, but quite franky seeing Ae live really raised to bar for me. :) |
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why is the hit sound silly and corny for you ? LCC TRIPLE HIT - THAT'S IT ! and notice how it changes throughout the track - so you would have to specify which of the x versions of it you dislike |
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i kinda liked em all im a big fan of that trakc and loved how they played the tirple hit part (1st half of LCC) with the 2nd half melody that was sooo ogoood |
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Haha, so much discussion over a triple hit. I like the way it changes. It's just when I heard it for the first time, right at the beginning of the track (before other "versions" or modulations of the same sound came in) I was like "eh?" I hadn't heard anything so "normal" from Autechre in ages. |
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LCC TRIPLE HIT MOTHER FUKKER dude live it was, more like, QUADRUPLE LCC PALM/FIST TECHNIQUE BOOGA-BOOGA BAT BAT BAT BATBAT , BOOGA BOOGAA BAT, OOOOSH OOOOOSH |
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...and we should find all of this tsh tsh tsh in Tolst's review ! |
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In conclusion, ae kick motherfucking ass! |
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...especially live ! |
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I don't know what they did in your city's, but here they did LCC with a quadruple hit. |
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"BOOGA-BOOGA BAT BAT BAT BATBAT , BOOGA BOOGAA BAT, OOOOSH OOOOOSH" For some reason that made me laugh out loud. I must be strange. |
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Woofter should do an "Autechre vs. Autechre" poll. Who is it you like of best? 1] - Autechre 2] - Autechre 3] - Bring me my pool, Wooftie, I'm in the beer!!!! 4] - Autechre |
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I think you've been reading too many of tridenti's posts. No offense to him, of course. I love the guy. |
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tridenti? |
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Oh, I don't know, I need some sleep. :) Perhaps it was "Who is it you like of best?" that inspired my mentioning of his name. |
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