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offline pomme de terre from obscure body in the SK System on 2005-06-06 18:55 [#01624770]
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[101 Update]:

Draft is better


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-06 18:56 [#01624772]
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you sir, are wrong. Even if you are a mod.


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-06 18:59 [#01624776]
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I wish there was an edit feature. The above post is
appalling.


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-06-06 20:11 [#01624805]
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the question is which one did you like better?

Not which one IS better.


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-06-06 20:35 [#01624808]
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CCEC YOURSELF BEFORE YOU REQ YOURSELF


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2005-06-06 21:13 [#01624815]
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this is LCC live ^^^^^^^^


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2005-06-06 21:13 [#01624816]
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the >> are my favorite sounds from the live lcc

it's HOT


 

offline mrgypsum on 2005-06-06 22:39 [#01624837]
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draft 7.30 but untilted is so close.... theyre both better
than confield though :)


 

offline Matvey from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2005-06-07 01:15 [#01624866]
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*testing this instant reply textarea.

Draft is better!
it is more industrial and I love industrial.
There is less of definite mood in tracks (harder to tell
whether the track is sad or not, which makes me think of a
greater extent of freedom of the music - it seems to be more
free and independent, as if it has been done by an abandoned
factory (abandoned LONG time ago) full of automatic
machinery which is working without a reason for working, but
though no human beings operated them during music playing
process, the factory is human-made anyway...


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-06-07 01:31 [#01624872]
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yeah whatever


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-06-07 01:41 [#01624882]
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the only song with a definite mood on untilted i think is
really sublimit, other than that it is more of a dj thing it
seems, has such a ghost of old hip hop and electro... ghosts
of some industrial like you were talking about also. its
like a mixtape.

PERSONALLY for me, sublimit is kinda a sadness and longing
for done-and-gone things and an overbearing excitement for
future things man. that track is very wide and strong. very
emotional track.

but oddly enough i think the moods of drafts tracks are more
definite.


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-06-07 01:45 [#01624886]
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you get faked out more in draft and you can't block some of
the beats, and you get killed. untilted is meaner and you
just kinda get it right off but its still phat and it just
kills you.


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-06-07 01:53 [#01624889]
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i didnt mean by that comment mean to say that djing was
emotionless, more of a dancefloor thing .. not just sitting
chilling and listening in your free time

any of you guys ever play ninja gaiden? or devil may cry 3?
untilted is devil may cry 3. draft is ninja gaiden. you
should understand this. like you really just have to balance
your shit in dmc3 if you want to survive, and in ninja
gaiden you know you just have to be heavy with shit, you
know, keep track of what is going on, but you still get your
ass kicked if you get lazy. but its a bit more lax. you dont
have to put 100% into draft but you can. well i guess you
don't really have to with untilted either but i'd say myself
that its pertinent to do so.


 

offline Matvey from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2005-06-07 01:58 [#01624893]
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damn. i played ninja gaiden, but not that other game. so i
can not compare.

mappatazee: i needed to test if i'm still banned. nice to
see you talk. give us some more words!:)


 

offline Matvey from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2005-06-07 02:03 [#01624897]
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and i really have to listen to untilted now.


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-06-07 02:06 [#01624900]
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heres another good example

i hitchhiked my way back to dallas from austin seeing
autechre. the people who i went home with were into their
stuff, and went to the concert but hadn't heard untilted
yet. i described untilted to them as not extremely different
from the stuff played live but also not extremely similar to
it. haha, general enough? it was about 4am on the road when
untilted came on in the cd-changer and LCC just sorta really
scared the shit out of everyone who was trying to sleep. and
i could just kinda feel the energy of everyone get all mixed
up and to say the least i felt sort of bad. not really
appropriate, especially considering since the last CD was
like Beck or the gorilaz or something. LCC woke everyone up
and got them all, "oh, man, is this the new shit?" - im
like, yeah, its fat huh. but i felt really bad cause it
absolutely un-chilled everyone in the car. but they said
good words about it. "man, this is crazy but cool dude"

anyways, im sitting in the back embarassed and feeling
guilty. and LCC ends out. comments from the dudes, "that
wasn't so bad" etc, and then ipacial section comes on. not a
fucking word was said. everyone was stiff and i think they
were angry. i was like, "yyyyyyeeeeaaaaaah you guys can
change it if you want to" and they did. really embarassing.
too demanding for that mood you know. of course if id been
at home at that hour w/ my phones i'd fucking be just, you
know eating the beats up as usual

if itd been draft that would not have happened i dont think.
the brain watches those songs more than it hears them if you
know what im saying...the draft tracks work more on the
subconsious level. and of course untilted does this too but
draft is, i dont know, friendlier? similar to some of
djkrush's shit or ken ishii's early songs.


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2005-06-07 02:17 [#01624909]
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hahah, great story. they might have accepted "fermium" maybe
if you played it looped for an hour :)


 

offline nacmat on 2005-06-07 02:20 [#01624910]
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funniest post of the thread


 

offline user unknown from Chally D Scheme Team (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-07 02:40 [#01624919]
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gotta be untilted - for that machine drum thump


 

offline Matvey from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2005-06-07 02:40 [#01624920]
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yes, good story and good example of.. what?

i have quit making experiments with putting on ae to those
who are not prepared to stuff like that. They, poor people,
don't know that there is million times crazier music. Ok,
last time i made such an experiment was with gantz graf
video, i put a friend in front of the pc, pumped up the
volume and pressed play. after small silence it started and
the guy just SHOOK his body scared as hell. He then
recovered and enjoyed the show, cause he was not absolutely
unprepared.

So, cygnus.. who wins - Draft or Untilted for you? Or you
like both?


 

offline mrgypsum on 2005-06-07 03:30 [#01624955]
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draft was a monster of an album - offered more ideas, had
more nooks and crannies, and had more to offer after repeat
listenings. but i really liked it more because it functioned
better as a whole - i never skip a track or put it on and
only listen to one or two tracks when i listen to it. it was
a multi headed hydra of an album, but worked.

untilted on the other hand is more of a mix of some really
classic tracks, they function really well together, but
eventually there are no unsung tracks, or tracks that only
exist to add to the cohesiveness of the album - fermium is
an alright track, but is the only track that tries to be a
cohesive track. i think the album suffers in comparison to
draft, in this respect. for me, i can put untilted on, and
listen to a couple of tracks and skip around and come back
to it, but where is the hold that draft has? dont get me
wrong, i think untilt is one of their best, just not their
best - thats draft :)


 

offline mortsto-x from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2005-06-07 03:47 [#01624967]
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Tolstoyed-finally an Autechre fan???


 

offline nacmat on 2005-06-07 03:54 [#01624970]
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dont put your hand in fire for that... he might change any
moment

but yes, by now he is liking the last albums

and that makes me happy


 

offline mortsto-x from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2005-06-07 04:02 [#01624974]
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It's so beautiful. A grown man changes his mind.

Before
Tolstoyed: I think Autechre is so booring.

Now
Tolstoyed: I'm a fan-boy



 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-06-07 04:50 [#01625004]
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haha don't ppush it :)

im really starting to appreciate them, i remain aphex fan
boy for now thoough :)


 

offline mortsto-x from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2005-06-07 04:56 [#01625006]
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I'm not gonna push it. I'm just gonna lurk around in the
corners and shadows...until one day. I will catch you
listening to Amber nude, touching yourself. Then I will jump
out of the shadows, yelling; "What did I tell you? Autechre
is the best band in the world!" And very embarrassed you
will mumble "yeah...Deep in my heart, I guess I always
knew..."

What a day it will be! :D


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-06-07 05:02 [#01625009]
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haha, but i do that already..i thought there was much more
to fanboyism!


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2005-06-07 05:34 [#01625031]
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will You link to that review when it is ready ? it's getting
curious...


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-06-07 05:45 [#01625040]
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sure, but it's going to be in slovenian :) and i don't think
it's going to be all that much because i have to finish it
today and i'll have very little time because im still at
work..jav!


 

offline eXXailon from purgatory on 2005-06-07 05:49 [#01625045]
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I'm not crazy about either of the 2 albums. Pro radii, lcc
and iv vv iv vv viii are pretty OK though.


 

offline Matvey from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2005-06-07 06:02 [#01625053]
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is that review going to be published here -
http://www.radiostudent.si?


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-06-07 06:05 [#01625055]
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probably yeah..


 

offline Matvey from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2005-06-07 06:17 [#01625059]
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i'll try to read to see how much i understand slovenian. so
far i'm at no more than 25%.

on this site i have found a review of a disc called Kiko C
Esseiva "Musiques pour haut-parleurs" - this guy came to
Kiev once as a technician for the Vialka gig we've
organised. They lived in our apartment.. Cool people. And
his music is very interesting.. So this site jumped up my
personal ratings since there is not much info on that disc
on the web..


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-06-07 06:26 [#01625062]
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haha, splendid! glad to see that radio is known in wider
region..it's going to be even more now if i get to work for
them :)


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2005-06-07 07:20 [#01625113]
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don't worry, i'll try to find an online slovenian-english
dictionary :) unless You can link to a good one !


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-06-07 07:37 [#01625124]
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im sorry, but i don't know of any online slovenian to
english dictionaries..


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2005-06-07 07:37 [#01625125]
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Wow, i really agree with a lot of you guys
nice words , comments!


 


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