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um, the brotherhood statement wasnt serious, while the rest was. just to clear thatup. |
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:) |
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hell yeah, |
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*converts a 320kbps mp3 to 192kbps to hear the difference* ... *shrugs* i can hear the difference, but... come on, that tiny bit of higher sound resolution you get isn't that important. barely noticeable as well unless you concentrate in my opinion/to my ears and equipment (koss porta pro headphones). a cd's mastering and mixing is much more important about sound; i have some 128kbps mp3s that sound better than some 256kbps ones because of that. if i get very short of disk space and can't afford a new hard drive i'll convert it to 192 and trash the 320 ones (or just buy the cd if i can, which i'm already doing), really... |
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i dont know who exactly you are talking about., but seriously the audio quality is, in my mind, not the most compelling reason to use flacs. read what i wrote about using as a future friendly format. as for disk space, i dont have that many cds, but all my rips of all my cds (340 discs, many not full lengths) = 65gb. that is practically nothing. i understand that 60usd for an 80gb drive isnt 'free'. but if i consider how much my csd cost, and how much of my life i spend listening to music. its not that crazy to drop 100 dollars to have rips like i have. i even want to get another hd to back up on to and just store safely. when it comes down to it, i could always re rip if i lost my flacs but id rather not. |
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well, my hard drive is 40 GB so 65 GB is definitely not "practically nothing" to me!! ^^ and my message wasn't directed to anyone in particular : ) |
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if you were my friend in this situation. i would buy you an 80gb drive. you know what i mean, yeah it costs a bit. but fuck ive spent more money on a single cd. actually i dont know maybe flacs are just abnormally high on my priority list or something. |
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its also amazingly convinent, like if i want to copy a cd for a friend or something it takes me about 10 seconds to load the cue sheet into nero and hit burn. i really like the physicality of the cd medium thouhg, i would never buy flacs as a replacement to the cd. as much as i dont hang out with them much, i am happy my cds are all sitting near me. |
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900GB and growing strong!! il take all the flacs I can get oh, btw, uzim want to know what's most important to me? when im all lost in a track ... completely out of my mind just daydreaming (without even realizing it) , then i suddently get pulled away from that by a screech or something that doesn't sound right (because of the encoding) that is what hurts me the most you cant tell a diff betwen 128 and 192 or higher? get some better speakers or go blast it in a car on a nice stereo (no offense, dont know what you're listening to it on) but comon oh well, whateve rmakes you happy i guess |
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flac is badass. fact. |
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best lossless audio format = flac best lossy audio format = ogg best lossy video format = xvid (although theora has potential) best lossless image fomat = png me and my friends were going to dress up as awsome file formats for halloween. but then we remembered we didnt want to dress up. i really really love the above formats. |
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<3 |
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ogg always had too gay of a name for me to experiment with it. |
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strictly speaking its vorbis. because theres ogg vorbis, ogg theora, ogg flac, ogg speex, etc. |
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.ali |
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.lol |
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these days I'm looking for a portable digital audio recorder for field recording, and I didn't see FLAC mentioned once on hundred of models. I search a thing who could record in 24/96 wav I found mainly dictaphones for journalists voice recording but that's not what I search. For example there is the Marrantz pmd660 but it records in 16/44 and also in mp3 but ONLY 64 kbps mono or 128 stereo. the Edirol R1 records in 24/44 wav (and 16/44) or 64 to 320 mp3. I checked the new Hi-MD but they seem the worst thing ever. Some records in wav, but re-encode in proprietary format (I even found the .omg format) and you can't use files. or the output isn't digital. or there is the SCMS shit for rights management. then, the mp3 players like iRiver or others, they could record in 16/44 wav (but with shitty components of course) and there is the problem of disk access audio cuts... The iPod record wav in 16 bits 8 khz. I guess there are little chances for FLAC being on these cheap models (since it's lossless) because there are still some old guys who decides things like SCMS. sigh anyway I'm totally pro-FLAC especially when I read epohs's post who says Tohmson do money while mp3 exists. |
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if ipod could do flac (which im sure prolly in the future) id buy one in a heartbeat dunno why i dont have one now, ohwell. but yeah would be nice cause the headphone quality isnt going to be that great (for using flacs, 256-320 would be fine) but it would be a great backup in case your PC hdd crsahes (backup for your flacs) |
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i dont think youll find anything cheap. i dont know if it actually can encode to flac. it boasts flac support and line in encoding so one would think so |
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i was looknig to get that one a while ago. its not cheap. |
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maybe hard drives are more expensive here than where you live...? i don't know. i'll try to get more information about that. "then i suddently get pulled away from that by a screech or something that doesn't sound right (because of the encoding)" > i never had that because of the encoding. but i know the feeling, when my (brand-new, from a reputed brand (marantz)) cd player skips... -_- oh well don't get me started about this again, i kinda got resigned to it (and when i want to avoid it at all costs i use my portable cd player instead). |
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maybe hard drives are more expensive here than where you live...? i don't know. i'll try to get more information about that. maybe, where you at? i generally pay a dollar canadian or less per GB ie from 200gb = 150$ 120 = 110$ 80 = 80$ 160 = 120$ when i said 60usd for an 80gb i was just saying that 80cad roughly equals 60usd or something. |
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thanks, I didn't know those models. it seems they done the second player who supports FLAC, in the world ! They look good but have too many functions I think. and the HD may cause parasites. I'm really looking for compact flash models, because there are no moving part with CF, so you don't hear the HD... It's important when you record very low sound and also the 24 bits are important for good quality low-sounds (I'm not sure but at least, it's the future standard) |
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off-topic, but nice avatar and graphics site colani..! i like. : ) |
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CF is expensive as fuck and Compact Flash drives (like the 4GB ones that are pretty cheap) still have moving parts and will eventually die. .........CF flash is expensiv,e lol |
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If you get ipodlinux on it, it will. But you need to get a 2nd hand one. And maybe wait till it's developed a bit further. It ain't too hot now. |
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hrrmm.. the cpu on the ipods isnt suitable for even decoding ogg. i dont know if flac would require more or less power. i havnt looked into it for a bit though |
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what's this thread all about? There is no "vs". Flac is technically better plain and simple. No contest. It's just the original WAV! |
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yeah, people are dickfors. |
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flac should require less because it's not decoding anything it just has to read more data in.... |
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you can 'trick' mp3's to being a higher bitrate if you use some specific variable bitrate codecs |
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I find 128kps mp3's pretty rare to find these days, 192kps is about as low as I get on average |
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I can't help noticing that flac-lovers are all "we all", "everyone", "share" and "you", and mp3 lovers are "myself", "I", "memememememe". mp3-lovers smell like horses bottoms. |
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Meh, who cares about quality anyway? |
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yeah, the world's already gone to the shitter. why stop at culture and education? |
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On reading this thread it seems a lot of people confuse "sounds better" with "sounds louder". If an mp3 is louder than a flac it's just cos it was recorded like that, and it's nothing to do with the format. Louder also isn't always better. The below image shows the same section from Analord 7 as two waves. Bottom one is louder but missing the peaks present in the top. So it's actually a much worse recording. |
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You're talking about something that came out of a drum machine |
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probably ain't yours but i'd still like to compare them with those i did myself, maybe we can arrange a slsk meeting sometime? |
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I'm going to weigh in here. I download 192 mp3 because I'm listening to it on headphones connected to my mp3 player. I believe there is a difference between a 320 and a FLAC but I can't afford the disc space to get flac on everything. I have 67gb of mp3 when I last checked. If a FLAC is approx double that size then... that's 134gb of music. That's a shitload of space for something I'm not going to hear the difference in. However... I've been reading a lot about FLAC and someone recently suggested to me that maybe it would be a good idea to archive FLAC copies of my CDs and create mp3 versions for my iPod. So basically I'm trying to say mp3 is great because it's smaller and perfect for portable mp3 players due to it's size and the fact you wouldn't hear a difference over those headphones anyway. I'm not about to spend £100 on a pair of headphones for my mp3 player. |
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That could be arranged. Just to clear things up. My username is the same as here. |
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weldone, hence the clipping found on the first Analord vol.10 that came out... very loud but the wav totally fucked. |
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