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I actually said to aphex, give them the flow coma treatment. So it's in his brain now. Maybe he will. (he was pretending to be his wife on the mu forum) |
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This was about a month ago. Rich also talked about analogue equipment in the 303 emulation thread here: |
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oh dam you're karek from MU dam i didnt know |
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who are u? |
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i luv those mu people. they are all so nice, btw. |
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especially Jess!! |
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i saw analord 9 on limewire... very strange... haHa.. definitely FAKE!!! |
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well I never.. I'm zoekmijnsnor. I'm not around as much as I used to be. |
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im aquagak, but i dont post much. Mostly lurk. |
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bwoon dub is cool |
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telling an artist to remix their work cos you're not satisfied with it is rather offensive. don't do that again. the analords don't fucking need remixing. they're great as they are. if they would be all like flow coma remix they wouldn't be as nice listening to. it's what he intended them to be like, respect it. |
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saying "don't do that again" - don't do that again. |
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saying "saying "don't do that again" - don't do that again." - don't do that again |
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Bojula will now take personal credit for Analord 6 - 9 |
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My apologies for mispelling bogula, we are talking about smojphace on soulseek and I am just watching rudster claim it is the greatest thing ever. |
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yeah, stop being a nazi. Remixing, as richard has said himself, is like making a whole new track. Doesn't steal away from the original. Plus, aphex remixes are completely different animals. Don't tell me to not do that again, ever again. fuck face! |
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you see how annoying it is? OH YEAH! |
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haha |
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you were being annoying. i was just giving a good advice, well in some cases you have to TELL people what to do and what not to do. like the goverment preventing people to murder and rape eachothers and putting cats in microwave ovens. what would happen if people weren't restrained and were allowed to do anything? "i'm RAPING AND MURDERING CHILDREN. HAHA ITS FUN" goverment: "that's like you opinion man. we're cool with dat" |
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exactly, your opinion. fuck your own anus. anus! |
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anyways, he wasn't annoyed. He was having fun. I found him first. So he's mine. :p You should see some of the other posts I did. The first one I put up after figuring out it was him. Totally annoying. Anyways, he thought it was great. Told Jess cheers for finding him out. He's my best friend and you can't have him :p |
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if you just had a baby girl with a girlfriend. and someone said "she's ugly. you should send her to plastic surgery to reconstruct her monstrous face " you wouldn't like that would you? and wouldn't it make sense telling this mentally disturbed "someone" not to do say things like that? |
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uh huh, ok. |
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that was maybe too harsh. let me rephrase it: ...and someone said "you should send her to plastic surgery" |
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i mean ok, it's nothing wrong asking him that. but these tracks have just been released. to me it seems kinda odd asking them to be remixed so soon. |
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It's not about making it better. It wasn't ever about that. I love analord! |
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and usually his remix turn out to sound nothing like the original. so what's the point? ;) |
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I don't know. I guess, since windowlicker's demo sounded so simple (but good), and the rinsing he put on that was excellent. Fresh, new, and most of all, different..And knowing his love of concepts and the musical history of techno. I don't know. It was just suggestion, but I thought cut up remix style stuff would be a cool addition. That's all. Of course I was being annoying. I was a fan boy with a big secret, but who cares, he enjoyed it. He says some really interesting stuff in the 303 thread, too. |
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i hear ya. nothing wrong with that. your intentions were good. just saying your request could've been interpreted the wrong way. <3 |
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meh.. i like analord better than drukqs so far. |
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Im listening to 3 & 4 on some good head phones, now. Wow, different experience. You can really hear all the little distortions and imperfections in the equipment. Or did he put that in? Holly shit. Really excellent. |
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NERD! |
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imo analord is really good - so far i have liked analord 1 the best, i really like older afx and its way different than the faster style of music hes been doing lately - the more you listen to the analords you can tell that he did put a lot of work into them, and they are more complex than at first listen. they sound minimal and dated, but to me they sound great. i never thought i would be into them - the idea of him doing a quasi retro series was well sounded dull, but the music is top notch. |
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some of these tracks _are_ old, so..don't think of them ashot off the press. |
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i wouldnt say they are old, they dont sound old, or old enough where you can tell, maybe 1996 till present he could have made them, but not before |
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Rich said himself, a little of both. |
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well he might have wrote them forever ago, but you cant tell me that he had some tracks from back in the day, and released them, AS IS, as anal 1 or 2....etc he at least remixed them - there is no way he just took some old produces tracks and put them out. |
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they aren't old. vibert said in 2004 that richard had been completely analogue for about a year. ofcourse you're going to hear a little resemblance of his older stuff because it was also done on analogue gear. and like mrgypsum said, they don't sound old. |
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Analord 2 is absolutely awesome. Takes me right back to when I first heard SAW or Surfing on Sine Waves all those years ago. Somehow manages to combine the style of those two albums with some really Larry Heard-like late-80s acid house stylings. Love the way Phonatacid eventually breaks down into what sounds like Larry Heard's "Washing Machine" track. It is a very chilled out release, Analord 2. Extremely pleasing to the ear. |
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Analord 2 is absolutely awesome. Takes me right back to when I first heard SAW or Surfing on Sine Waves all those years ago. Somehow manages to combine the style of those two albums with some really Larry Heard-like late-80s acid house stylings. Love the way Phonatacid eventually breaks down into what sounds like Larry Heard's "Washing Machine" track. It is a very chilled out release, Analord 2. Extremely pleasing to the ear. |
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Oops. Didn't think that message went through the first time. Sorry. |
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that 303 thread is such interesting reading; to hear the master teaching his disciples so to speak. he has an incrdible amount of knowledge and to be honest, hearing some of the complexities of analog recording etc just makes me appreciate how amazing the analords actually are. |
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I'll post here for you lot, great stuff... Author: analord Date: 02-07-05 03:14 some people bought the analogue equipment when it was unfashionable and very cheap though. some of us are over 30 you know! anyone remember when 303`s were £50? and coke was 16p a tin? crisps 5p also you have overlooked A LOT of other points because its not all about the overall frequency response of the recording system its how the sound gets there in the first place. here are some things which you can`t get from a plugin,they are often emulated but due to their hugely complex nature are always pretty crass aproximations.. the sound of analogue equpiment including EQ, changes very noticably over even a few hours due to temperature changes within a circuit. Anyone who has tried to make tracs on a few analogue synths and make them stay in tune can tell you this,you leave a trac running for a few hours come back and think Im sure I didnt fucking write that,I must be going mental! this affects all the components in a synth/EQ in an almost infinte amount of tiny ways. and the amount differs from circuit to circuit depending on the design. the interaction of different channels and their respective signals with an analogue mixer are very complex,EQ,dynamics.... any fx, analogue or digital that are plugged into it all have their own special complex characteristics and all interact with each other differently and change depending on their routing. Nobody that ive heard of has even begun to start emulating analogue mixer circuitry in software,just the aesthetics,it will come but im sure it will be a crap half hearted effort like most pretend synth plugins are. they should be called PST synths, P for pretend not virtual. Every piece of outboard gear has its own sound ,reverbs,modulation effects etc real room reverb, this in itself companies have spent decades trying to emulate and not even got close in my opinion, even the best attempts like Quantec and EMT only scratch the surface. analogue EQ is currently |
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impossible in theory to be emulated digitally,quite intense maths shit involed in this if youre really that interested,you could look it up...good luck. your soundcard will always make things sound like its come from THAT soundcard..they ALL impose their different sound characteristics onto whatever comes out of them they are far from being totally neutral devices. all the components of a circuit like resistors and capacitors subtley differ from each other depending on their quality but even the most high quality milatary spec ones are never EXACTLY the same. no two analogue synths can ever be built exactly the same,there are tiny human/automated errors in building the circuits,tweaking the trimpots for example which is usually done manually in a lot of analogue shit. just compare the sound of 2 808 drum machines next to each other and you will see what I mean,you always thought an 808 was an 808 right? same goes for 303`s they all sound subltey different,different voltage scaling of the oscillator is usually quite noticable. VST plugins are restricted by a finite number of calculations per second these factors are WAY beyond their CURRENT capability. Then there is the question of the physicallity of the instrument this affects the way a human will emotionally interact with it and therfore affect what they will actually do with it! often overlooked from the maths heads,this is probably the biggest factor I think. for example the smell of analogue stuff as well as the look of it puts you in a certain mental state which is very different from looking at a computer screen. then there is analogue tape...ah this really could go on forever.... im quite drunk cant be bothered to type anymore... so yeah,whatever, you obviously dont have to have analogue equipment to make `good` music in case thats the impression im giving,EVERYTHING has its uses .And not all anlaogue equipment is expensive you can still get bargains like old high end military audio devices,tape machines fx etc just go for the un |
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fashionable stuff. Richard. |
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"...the Analords have hit the spot perfectly in what I wanted." Taken out of context, that is hilarious. My opinion: Bwoon Dub and Pissed Up in SE1 are the 2 strongest analord tracks so far. Both in the top 10 aphex tracks of all time IMO. |
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maybe listen to it more |
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Richard seems a really nice fella, not at all like the TV monster in Come To Daddy. |
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"Then there is the question of the physicallity of the instrument this affects the way a human will emotionally interact with it and therfore affect what they will actually do with it! often overlooked from the maths heads,this is probably the biggest factor I think." Yeah, very down-to-earth. Good of him to provide quite a bit of insight.. |
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yea, richard should do a "collaborating with machines" thing like tom did. |
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