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i bet if you asked most devout rastafarians they wouldn't give a rat's ass... people can do whatever the fuck they please until it starts to significantly harm others... and this, my friends, is not such an example... |
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I didn't say a law should be brought in, banning Whiteys from having Dreadlocks ... I feel Whiteys should have some respect for this Religion, and not turn something sacred into one more lousy western soulless piece of shit fucking cuntraggedy showy gauchy meaningless tripe fashion/"lifestyle" drivel, that's all. not much to ask... whites have their own stuff, like... umm .... something, I'm sure ... |
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if you dig deep enough... you could probably find something highly offensive about just about anyone's attire... i fail to see the point... no one has a fucking clue what they represent, and frankly they shouldn't have to... representation is bunk to begin with |
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That's mere presumption. And it's also false. |
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ah yes, but the rastafarian religion is sufficiently obscure as to warrant respect from the more cultured members of our society. if you happen to be a cretin with popular beliefs your opinions are meaningless, and you are a sheep. |
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pff |
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I know alot of people who have dreads, i can pretty much safely assume that most of them are aware of the Rastafari culture. I also think that paul is just picking holes because he is bored but it actually is a fair point. : ) |
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I offened at people being offended. |
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Marlowe is completely wrong on this one. |
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"offened".put(5,"d"); |
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yourpost._sweet = true; |
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All because you are white means you can't practise Rastafarianism? Should not bathing be included in this religious proclamation? |
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rastas smoke loads of dope anyway, they're too stoned to care about such trivial things.... |
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no, Paul doesn't say you can't practice rastafarianism, but how many white people with dreadlocks do you know who actually practice aforementioned rastafarianism? in other words, it has become a crass fashionstatement, nothing more. |
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Hegemony, people. Unavoidable. Kinda like T-Shirts bearing Che Guevara. Just accept it. Personally i find it odd that any religion finds an aspect of appearance sacred, but that might be just me. |
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religion is not known for it's sense of logic. but I do see Paul's point. it's the endless pillaging of other cultures for something "new" and "cool", using it without any idea what it stands for, etc. it's pretty empty. |
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To: qrter Re: your message I concur. Love, me. By the way, do you realize that MY NAME IS ALSO ALEX? I shall grow dreadlocks and wear a turban to celebrate. |
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It's part of my religion to have a head on my shoulders. please go cut yours off, fucking vagrants. |
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I agree with what you (and Paul F. Savage) are getting at. I just can't see how we can keep it from happening. |
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personally I don't care, it's all so fake and vain. Oh and religion makes about as much sense as Netsky_B ;-) -- DoctorMO -- |
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Did you know that in one of the books of the Bible (i think it may be Genesis but i'm not sure at all) it states that it is a sin to wear clothing made of more than one material? |
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I'm pretty indifferent to the whole religious debate here, for better or worse. I'm a Christian to the bone, but I don't care about traditions and the like. I respect religious practices even though I don't really partake in (many of) them, and I think nobody has a monopoly on a hairstyle, or a food, or a deity, or anything. If it's holy to you, do it. Leave it at that. If Nigel wants to lower his potent handsomeness by equipping himself with them, I don't have any qualms. And if a Rastafarian does, well, as far as I'm concerned, that's tough. That's my way of believing in religion, it's entirely personal. I couldn't care less if I see an obviously Godless heathen walking down the street with a cross around her neck. We didn't invent the cross, and as long as it means something to ME, that's all that matters. I like V's mullet idea, though. |
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Pah, it's says in the Bible that helping people who are a bit lame in one leg is wrong because they are unclean! in fact when me and Cali ripped that section of the big book I got the impression it was more of a 1,400 year old health and safety pamphlet. |
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this all kinda reminds me of back in the day when everyone wanted to have the baddest pair of shoes that nobody else had. when someone else bought the same pair you had it didn't make your shoes less comfortable or anything.. but it did make you less unique. uniqueness is [arguably] a valuable thing when making an artistic statement, but it's hardly valuable when taking a moral stance, or deciding on a faith. imo at least, some atheist guy having dreds doesn't in the slightest way invalidate the rastafarian religion. and, if it bothers a rastafarian, that illustrates a flaw in their belief structure, not the person imitating them. |
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first of all there's no way to prove that the first person who ever sported dreadlocks was of the rastafarian religion (or rather, this protorastafarianism that has been spoken of... and why is it that rastafarianians are allowed to coempt it but i am not?)... furthermore, i reject the idea that someone can have control over what a signifier signifies... (not that i even have dreads... nor would i because my head is too small...) but i'm not responding to this thread again... cause i feel a little silly about defending this point (because marlowe may very well have a point...) |
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You know, Burkas are kinda cool looking. hmm.. |
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if anyone should be upset IT'S THE JAINISTS! |
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I will never accept T-Shirts bearing Che's image ... it's disgusting to the core ... part of the very thing he was fighting against, and now he's dead, he's being used against himself ... nauseating to the max ... and bozoes like you say "just accept it". Sounds like a slogan that one - go preach it to the masses, or would that just be preaching to the converted? |
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many wear those shirts cuz they're trendy. i don't. |
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hehehe you can always count on marlowe to make a controversial thread |
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Some people wear polo shirts and don't even play the game. Suckers. I'm rich, I play, so I can wear one with pride off the pitch. Geddit? |
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Religion and polo are very different. You can also blame ralph lauren for polo shirt popularity. |
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Indeed they are different. My point is that fashion appropriates styles with boundless facility. Shit, that is what makes it such a liquid art form. |
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I couldn't care less if I see an obviously Godless heathen walking down the street with a cross around her neck. We didn't invent the cross, and as long as it means something to ME, that's all that matters. Spot on. Christians didn't invent the (Roman) cross and there are plenty of other sorts of crosses (like those Egyptian ones that look like "T"s). The significance attached to it is part of my religion, not the cross itself. The only reason things like people defacing the cross is offensive to me is that they are obviously defacing the significance Christians attach to it. As some people have already pointed out, dreadlocks were around before the Rastafarian religion and it's the significance attached to them that makes them "holy" in their eyes. It's also worth pointing out that there are plenty of black people who are not Rastafarians who wear dreadlocks (two black friends of mine who are Christians have dreadlocks). |
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I'll second that. Whilst at secondary school my mate (black) had dreads and he was a christian. He has subsequently had his head shaved.... |
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Yes, but Christianity is a whore's religion, isn't it? It's meaningless - the original Christians were Jewish. It wasn't until the Roman Empire realised that Christianity was gonna topple them, that they defeated it by claiming it for its own, promoting "Jesus Christ" to being the Messiah, and cobbling together The New Testement, using scrolls and "books" that suited them, and damning the rest as being False. It's a load of shit, and everytime I see a non-white Christian, I feel like crying. Dreadlock wearing predates Rastafarianism, in a Religious Context. Those two uncle toms of yours, Ceri, are just as bad as a Whitey with Dreadlocks, a sorry fact. And before you jump on me, no I'm not saying all Black people should worship Rocks... |
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Surely the fact that early Christians were Jewish shows that it's not a "white man's religion"? I know their skin tone is similar, but (ethnically) Jewish people are different to Caucasians. Or are you conveniantlly grouping light skinned races together? (which is a bit like saying, "these darkies are all alike" refering to black people, dark skinned eastern indians, etc.) |
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Yeah, but Che is a flawed hero anyway. He failed to recognise the working class as the agent of revolution. |
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Speak of the deviland he shall appear, eh Marlowe? |
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Whites with dreadlocks look dumb. Not because it should be the preserve of black for cultural reasons; it just doesn't look good with non-black hair. |
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Get back to the books Ceri. You have your finals coming up. ?Where will your Xltronic friends be when you stand there with your slip of paper that reads 2:2! |
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"Whites with dreadlocks look dumb. Not because it should be the preserve of black for cultural reasons; it just doesn't look good with non-black hair. " Agreed. Fair one! Must... finish... law essay... |
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I don't have a beef with early Christians, Ceri, so what are you going on about the colour of Jewish skin for! :D Christianity is NOW a white man's religion, because it was hi-jacked, as i've noted before on this here MB. Christianity after the foundation of the Holy Roman Church is entirely different to Christianity as it was before the Holy Roman Church. |
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so it all boils down to religious eliteism eh? that seems to be a widespread problem in the world today. |
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not eliteism, no. one person's respect for something considered sacred to another, rather than using it as a shallow fashion statement. I think that is what it boils down to. |
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well then, i believe we'll just have to agree to disagree then. i don't believe that anyone else's religious belief structure should be able to dictate my actions. but, i would call it eliteism in this case, because you don't think christianities quarky beliefs should affect what you do, however, because you respect the rastas you think that their quarky beliefs should affect me. |
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I don't believe it is a 'fashion statement'. It is just fashion. |
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Embrace all religion Be free from all religion Open to life and light and truth and love. |
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is that from "Bad Dudes"? "THE PRESIDENT HAS BEEN KIDNAPPED BY NINJAS ARE YOU A BAD ENOUGH DUDE TO RESCUE HIM?" |
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