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Hi, promo, I see you're doing well. |
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i dont plan on reaping the rewards at all... im not being cheap, the people who build this with me will also be founding members, i aint some asshole who'll ditch it... and theres quite a few artists on this board that deserve to be released |
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Its just vanity publishing with no plan. |
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yeah, that's what I think. Promo should live up his name for us. He's part of a community here, whether he likes it or not. And this is a community project. |
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and what ever happened to giving something a go???? you'll never suceed if you go through life thinking you dont deserve to do what you really want to do |
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good old promo stirrin da shit. ho ho |
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Christ man, why do you think it's a vanity project? Have you thought that maybe it's the act of trying to accomplish something? I've never sent anything to a record label. But Teapot/xanpha/james talking about the record label being self funded appealed to me. If you're putting your own money into something then you're more likely to try and sell it. If it's someone elses money then you're going to be bothered but in another way. Think before you kick off. Please. |
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I won't bother linking as I think you knopw my stuff by now... ;) BTW I'm back on broadband with time on my hands so I should have something to show for "you know what" before September. |
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nice one man, got a lot more files for you too if your interested :D |
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giginger, You're missing the point. What you're doing has a technical term and its actually called 'vanity publishing'. I'm just trying wake people up. Don't just been so bloody keen to piss away money on something which has no plan and no basis in reality. I just explained that you have to do things on absolute nil cost or attempt to do it that way. Its the only way to start things - its called minimising risk. That way you have less to loose and respectivily more to gain. I am trying to help but if people prefer to live in some pre-school fantasy world that is their choice. |
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Give us some constructive, detailed advice, promo. You are using technicalities, so I am going to assume that you are/have been involved in this kind of thing, or maybe studied it. |
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I have my own label called Big Smelly Dogjobby Records if anyone wants to send me demos. the link is |
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what do you think this is? mass production throwing thousands of dollars away???? there is a total of 20 copies of the first release made, i make them myself, at home, 20 @ $2 each, its nothing, what the hell is wrong with that????? if i fail, fuck it, i tried. |
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and im sure theres quite a few others here, that want to give it a go too, and if we create something small, and cool, im sure we'll be over the moon |
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teapot, Hell no I commend that. Its exactly the right approach. No problem at all with the way your doing things at all. Sound very sound. |
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promo: this may be vanity but isnt anykind of self promotion |
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at the end of the day man, thats all thats gonna be done, but when it comes down to it, its totally up to the artist how much they put into it financially you'know... |
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"I am trying to help but if people prefer to live in some pre-school fantasy world that is their choice." Perhaps, but it's still a little more productive than the "pre-pre-school" fantasy world of never leaving your bedroom or even uploading your music. Hoping that one day a famous label head will walk by, hear your music out your open window and ring your doorbell, contract in hand :D |
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nobsmuggler, You don't have to beat yourself up about it. I know of lots of labels and people who've printed up X amount of records and Cds and they can't sell the junk and basically it can often been seen as purely an exercise in 'vanity publishing'. Of course you have to enjoy what your do and I commend Teapot's efforts. Of course things have to be well thought out and planned in order for them to be successful. All I can say is I hope it works well. :-) |
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i suppose its a good thing that most of us arent in the financial position to take risk... |
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Ceri JC, I think that quality, originality and good old fashioned commercial appeal speaks for itself. I have heard very few artists on free mp3 download sites which I genuinely think have the sheer weight of production and quality in their tracks that they could be on a serious label such as Mu or Rephlex. |
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teapot, I think you're very right. Its good because it leads to much clearer thinking. |
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Lol. |
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Agreed- I'd never for example re-mortgage a flat and put the money into one record of my own in the hope it would be popular enough to break even. |
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Ceri JC, Oh yeah totally. Access to money has the funny habit of leading to very bad descisions. Lol. |
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i like to pinch not beat :) *pinch* oohhh |
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teapot: that sounds awesome. me and my friend are kinda working on an experimental/industrial ep together under a different name (not rongEnemy). we only have 2 songs out right now, but give em a listen. remeber they are bothe very different from eachother, so make shure you listen to both. http://studio.mp3.com/artist-admin/studio?class=Song&proc=v 1. glue in my hair - iew&song_id=3351715 http://www.geocities.com/rongenemy/musicandstuff/her_eyes.m 2. her eyes - p3 |
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http://studio.mp3.com/artist-admin/studio?class=Song&proc=v 1. glue in my hair - iew&song_id=3351715 http://www.geocities.com/rongenemy/musicandstuff/her_eyes.m 2.her eyes - p3 |
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ok. i think i got it now. http://studio.mp3.com/artist-admin/studio?class=Song&proc=v iew&song_id=3351715 and http://www.geocities.com/rongenemy/musicandstuff/her_eyes.m p3 |
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The only problem I can see with releasing on bigger labels, like Mu and Rephlex, is that they have to be very pickey about what they put out... Maybe sometimes they have to be more concerned about style and fashion than actually releasing good music. That's kind of the impression I get. If someone released something that sounded just like SAW'85-92, taking that simple medolic sound a bit further, I'd jump at the chance to buy it - I know a lot of people would... But I doubt those labels would want to put something like that out. I don't know - I can certainly see a place for smaller indepandant labels too... But I know exactly what you're saying Promo - You really do need something that's going to stand out against the latest warp/mu releases to actually get anywhere. |
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if it still doesnt work, just contact me and ill send em to ya aim - duckmysuck69 msn - rongenemy@hotmail.com icq - 253541707 |
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J Swift, Definitely. And more importantly not one release can be mediocre. Every single release has to be top draw 10 out of 10. Its tough what can I say the best artists usually go to the best labels but not always. |
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ok. last post! :) first song is here: http://play.mp3.com/cgi-bin/play/play.cgi/AAIAQqMkMwDABG5vc m1QAgAAAFKjgQgAUQEAAABD1_EnP2wMA5rxm7VRywPOtivsH8s-/glue_in _my_hair.mp3 and the second one is the same |
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i don't feel like reading through all of this shit but: starting a label is not exactly easy. the first release is the hardest, because you have no money from the last release to use. if you want to do anything you're going to need at least $1000 US |
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unless you guys are just talking about cd-rs which is lame |
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teapot: i believe you have heard a few of my tracks (the sonic remix, and a few others?), but do you think my music is worthy of being on your label? but maybe you should wait to say because i plan to upload a 7-track ep-style release once i have access to a high-speed connection. |
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I think it's a great idea. |
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There are such plans and I would appreciate if no other "used" the concept before we have announced the details. Sure, go ahead and start your labels but do not associate it with Xltronic. |
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I'll sign on to the label but i require a few things to close the deal: 1. BItches 2. Ho's 3. Bling 4. Bling 5. a low ridin' SU Vizzle with 40 inch Rizzles. 6. Ho's I'd also like a platinum grill with my name spelled in ice. |
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TRYING TO STEAL FLOW MINUS 50 POINTS |
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People can release all they want but if the quality isn't there then no one will buy it. All the same it occurs to me that a lot of artists these days don't bother mailing out CDs and tapes because basically its costly and a major hassle/bore. |
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I guess also thats why starting a record label up makes more sense. |
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teapot, i'm still interested. |
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without distribution and PR a label is nothing |
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Yo, I didn't do anything - I merely posted an idea I had. I didn't know you had any such plans, and I wouldn't sully this board by associating my grubbiness with it. |
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interesting, surprised i hadnt read this already |
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yeah me too great awesome why |
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yay! another chance for a bit of self-promotion. mind you, i haven't done anything for quite awhile and stuff has been around for a bit. *shrugs* oh. and it's nothing special. but. oh well. |
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you`re funny! always upbeat! |
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zing! |
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