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re: deconstruction/critique being pointless .. i would argue to the contrary ... it is pointless in that it doesn't advocate a point. but there is much point in countering/challenging other points. ie. not to lose sight of the plurality of points! |
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No. I am poorly read. There is so much more to read (isn't there always?). And yes, I am trying to keep it at the level of an opinion. Thank you for that. |
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I live for that (plurality of opinion). |
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though in light of, and the scope of the topic it's a bit of a farce to "deconstruct" your point of view as such .. you didn't exactly come across dogmatic etc. plus its a messageboard :) btw: what do you mean by "socrates' method"? |
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good point. you got me. i do appreciate your concern, but most people here seem old enough to choose what they put into their bodies. in a way, you just sound like a 3rd parent. i was serious about the shroomery forums though. you should check them out. especially the Spirituality and Philosophy forum. |
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haven't read much lacan (just an excerpt or two). but its pretty cool .. its sort of like sassure spiced up with psychoanalytic metaphors in a post-heideggerian atmosphere ... |
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Seeing as this is deviating from the main topic under question, and for fear of losing sight of the original point of starting this thread, maybe we should keep this for later. In any case, here is |
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I'll check them out. Thank you. (about the parent bit, I feel that humans have to keep the humanity alive...we are all we have...no one from outer space is going to come and save us all, one fine day...we just have to take care of each other as long as we live on this planet.) |
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re: socratic method -- ok .. thought as much. very nasty and clever indeed. but yeah sure .. i'll have my cunning up my sleeve, waiting/ready to unleash - haha .. back to the topic. |
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so back to the initial post: 1 . why would you guys (and I mean those here that seem to be on acid/ mushrooms/pot quite a bit) do it so regularly? ... seem[s] like the situation round here is a lot worse than just that. seems to me you have answered your own question. in order for you to understand and thus support/justify the actions - the situation must be worse than just that .. whatever that is. but then maybe you don't think this is the case, in which case you were trying to point out, or cunningly asking why people did it ... [in the hope/care (?)] of exposing the absurdity of the actions??? 2 . why do i care[?] because you think its bad, and bad is bad and good is good. ok i'm calling it a night :) |
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Hmmm.. can't hurt to give it a shot! right kids? ;) |
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some people like to do gardening some like fishing and some like to get thouraghly mindfucked. for me its just a hobby. Not everyone who snorts coke is a junkie, not everyone who takes acid dies, just as not everyone who drinks alcohol is an alcoholic or will die of liver disease. in my experience many drugs simply have a bad reputation, its only when u take them that u actually realise its all bullshit. its just an alternative to drinking beer and gettin lairy, but is no more or less dangerous, and personally id prefer to chill with a spliff and perhaps the odd line of k, than drink ten pints of stella and have a good old fuckin beat up down the pub |
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I enjoy and use drugs rarely... it's something that I prefer to do on rare occasions for obvious reasons. |
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tobacco is a harddrug... |
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I only do weed I lovve it but I just smoke 2 or 3 at a week I wouldnt try anyother thing as I know I would fall into the jaws of addiction, as I am so weak minded |
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The way I see my abuse is a matter of balancing fun and health. My (immediate) health is not suffering much at the moment - I'm still quite fit and healthy and very happy. So since I've kept it to a ....sort of reasonable level, I haven't had too many ill effects. If I didn't do drugs I would be having a whole lot less fun and I'd have experienced a lot less. Don't get me wrong, I still have mad fun when I'm straight, I just like to let it go and be able to act weird and feel different on the weekends. (by the way in most aspects I'm doing the worst as I do amphetamines rather than psychoactives.....mostly as we can't get acid here) |
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I have used loads of drugs in the past. In the early rave days (91-92), i have used Speed, XTC, LSD and cocaine. It's ten years ago i definately break with hard drugs. Now i only smoke weed :=) |
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complaining about my topic, eh =) "drugs for tonight", a topic like that pops up every weekend... Sometimes it's called weekend-something, but it's all the same =) I had a nice weekend btw. |
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not complaining, who am I to complain..and what have I to complain about ? just concerned.... |
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yeah I know what you mean... just joking... |
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I used to suck dick for coke |
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HAVE YOU EVER SUCKED DICK FOR COKE? |
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I've seen him! ^ |
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I smoke weed (usually after work) to unwind. Its also great listening to music stoned because you literally hear everything about the song, it just gets processed different in a way that very enjoyable. As for psycadelics, I use them rarely... mostly when I am sick of the everyday bullshit and I need to remind myself of where I am in this crazy universe. |
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say no to the aphex twin |
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your own dick? |
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and ignorance is bliss |
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how long will we continue to live with the illusion of safety? drugs aren't the only quicksand in which you can bury yourself. when we have freed ourselves from the need to suffer, and when we have freed ourselves from desire, when we no longer indulge in judgement of our peers, when we learn to love unconditionally, when we know who we truly are, we will not abuse drugs or each other. simply refusing to take drugs because you fear their danger accomplishes nothing, except to preserve your body; but if your body serves only ignorance, then what have you accomplished? my advice: find the path, and walk it. |
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im no angel but i think ravers are pretty scummy i freaking hate the whole drug induced false niceness of the scene. such a quick way to get real stupid. |
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in other words, druggies here are prone to post crap topics? |
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i only smoke weed. it has little negative effects. i enjoy it. |
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alnuit.....nice sentiments, however i'd like to give you some advice. don't waste your time telling drug takers that what they are doing is dangerous, harmful to ones health, and just in general not a good idea, etc.... cos they will come up with 1000 reasons why what they are doing is fun, good, right, not harmful, necessary, etc....... it's like talking to brick wall. even though quite a few former addicts have given them good advice on this MB. each one will come to their own decision in the future, either through bad or good experiences, and whatever they decide is fine, cos it effects me not at all. i just don't read drug topics..... |
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I agree. |
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My dick reeks of coke. |
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Thanks LeCoeur...I just realised that.... |
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Yeah and also make sure you don't sound like you're sitting on your high horse coz no one will listen to you, and I'm not just talking about drug discussions. Also about ravers being scummy - mostof my friends trhat are ravers are just nice people when theyre not on anything aswell.....far nicer than the average snobby idm geek... not saying anyone here is, but it can be quite an accurate stereotype sometimes... |
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if you have to spend that much money to feel good, then somethings wrong |
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The general idea is that drug users are STILL ABLE to have fun when they're not on drugs. I know this can shock people, but I don't do drugs during the week and holy shit! I'm often seen laughing, smiling, being talkative, hanging out with friends and being with my girl. Holy shit! I absolutely need my drugs to have fun! |
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I hate drugs. Someday I'll eliminate them. Except Tylenol, cuz that stuff is delicious. |
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ha! |
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i rreally don't carre about people |
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anyone who cares about themselves cares about other people. |
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some people should. some people shouldn't. the trick is knowing which kind of person you are. don't do what you can't handle. it's all about moderation and responsibility. |
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some people should? how do you figure? |
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I havent taken a hard drug in 7 years but i do have a big problem with weed and hash. I toke every day and am mentaly addicted to it because i use it to escape the drudgery of everyday life. I know this is wrong but its so easy for me to do and thats the problem i think . the world is a bit depressing at the moment . I often wonder what it would be like to feel pure and clean again. drugs eat you from the inside out :( |
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sounds just like a joke, a play on words whos the little kid in your pic? |
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youre taking what i said very personally! |
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drugs eat you from the inside out :( yeah =( the most dangerous thing about drugs is the addiction. If you just do drugs now and then, it's one thing (I mean it's still poisoning your body) but if you're addicted it means you're less free... You're unnecesseary dependent. freedom is something to fight for. believe me. |
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you want me to say no? ok No! |
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absolutely, i think there are alot of people that would benifit from an LSD experience. infact, it has been used to cure drug addiction and alcoholism. i think i have learned a great deal from my experiences, so i think i was also a person that should have and did experiment with these things. |
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