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DonkeyRhubarb
from Saegertown, PA (United States) on 2002-12-06 19:29 [#00471707]
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it's not even a site!
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2002-12-06 22:11 [#00471850]
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madonna !? yeah right, no chance in hell, what makes you think shes even heard of him anyways?
where did you hear invisible monsters would be made into a movie, survivor has been the only one talked about and invisible monsters would be kinda weird in movie form as well as most people not liking this book it just doesnt make sense to do it.
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DonkeyRhubarb
from Saegertown, PA (United States) on 2002-12-06 22:13 [#00471853]
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the site,...aout 8 months ago
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-09-09 16:10 [#00856534]
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the new palahniuk novel is out now by the way...Diary. Anyone get it yet? $25 for a book is ridiculous as is $14 for a paperback. maybe ill get it but i dont know.
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flim nanou
from out of the frying pan (United States) on 2003-09-09 16:47 [#00856560]
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wtf? did not lullaby come out like one hundred thousand years ago? I read it, it was dope as dope can be, but palahniuk never fails to hit right home!
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mimi
on 2003-09-09 20:00 [#00856629]
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i got diary for $20...hardcover, not too bad imo.
good book. weird letter in the back, anybody know what that was about? sheesh..
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-09-09 20:05 [#00856630]
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Is it me or does Chuck know about some really really WEIRD things?
But yeah I have fight club (really short!) and Survivor
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-09-09 20:15 [#00856632]
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chuck started writing after he went to a self help seminar.
landmark forum
its actually kind of sketchy/culty according to alot of people
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MongoloidBaby
from Savannah (United States) on 2003-09-10 01:49 [#00856776]
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...uh ...did you not read the book? That letter was the very point OF the book. That final twist. I won't say anything else here for the sake of not ruining things for people.
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-09-10 05:28 [#00856859]
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I started a subject about him some time ago... anyway, i'd like to see survivor with phillip seymour hoffman in it. Choke was the best, i found.
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2003-09-10 05:32 [#00856862]
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I've read Choke and Lullaby and thought they were great !
I may have a look at Invisable Monsters next
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cie jiks mawp
from motion to descend (Australia) on 2003-09-10 06:09 [#00856881]
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I just started to read Diary. Fight club is a miraculous book, his others are good as well but very similar. He is such an incredibly cynical and stark voice and always so vivid characters his formula is awesome!
I just read 'life of pi', thats a beauty!
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-09-11 20:28 [#00859371]
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ive only read invisible monsters still, im trying to find a used copy of fight club and then work my way towards the newer oines after i read choke, survivor and lullaby. what do you guys think about that book he did on portland orgeon, whats it called (something and refugees?)
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mimi
on 2003-09-11 20:36 [#00859376]
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well no offense to chuck but all of his books are spoilers for his other books anyways so you may as well
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-07 02:01 [#00892428]
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Diary was pretty good. Not brilliant, and I'm not really a fan of homages, but decent enough.
Have you heard about 'Guts', the short story he's been reading on his book tour? TWENTY NINE people have passed out during it so far!
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-07 05:45 [#00892566]
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I have not heard about that but I MUST read it!
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-10-07 06:26 [#00892600]
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"Imagine some crappy novels. Imagine that they're all written in the same phony, repetitive, bombastic style as this paragraph, all hopped-up imperatives and posturing one-liners. Imagine that they're sloppily put together. Imagine that everything even remotely clever in them has been done before and better by someone else. Imagine that each one flaunts the kind of "research" that can be achieved by leafing through a trade magazine for 30 minutes and is riddled with grating errors. Imagine that these books traffic in the half-baked nihilism of a stoned high school student who has just discovered Nietzsche and Nine-Inch Nails. Does it hurt yet? Now, imagine that every five pages or so the author of these novels will describe something as smelling like shit or piss because the TRUTH is fucking ugly, man. Imagine that he affects to attack the shallow, simplistic, dehumanizing culture of commodity capitalism by writing shallow, simplistic, dehumanized fiction.
"But, heck, why go to all the effort of imagining any of this when a new Chuck Palahniuk novel arrives at your local bookstore annually?"
- a reviewer in Salon
heh heh, I'll have to pick up one of his books used and see if it's all that
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-10-07 06:51 [#00892621]
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funnily enough, there was a documentary about ol' Chuck on Dutch television a few days ago and they showed him reading the story.
it was pretty nasty. fun to see the faces of the listeners.
the programme ended with Chuck on an answerphone saying up till now 29 people had passed out - I kind of doubt it.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-07 06:54 [#00892626]
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It's actually somewhat true. While that's a very snobbish statement to make there is a definite underlying truth to it. Like Bret Easton Ellis and Irvine Welsh - similar authors - Chuck is something of a one trick pony. His books all have exactly the same structure and the same tone. He has started developing slightly and has now gone into the horror field, but like I said above they're not original (A) because he's paying homage to classics and (B) he's imitating himself. It says on his site that he has lifted huge amounts from a certain author (can't remember who). I will continue to read his stuff because it's entertaining and I'm pretty easy going with books, I enjoy almost any old tripe. Plus Fight Club was excellent. It could get old though, reading Diary I was like "Well, same shit different book", kinda like with Irvine Welsh but his stuff is far more fun.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-07 06:55 [#00892629]
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Apparently it is true, there's reports about it on his site...
After reading Glamorama I'm ready for anything.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-07 06:55 [#00892630]
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I should say that the site is sort of independant, it's not chuck owned :)
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2003-10-07 10:39 [#00893008]
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Have you finished with Diary yet?
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2003-10-07 10:40 [#00893010]
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okay.... maybe I should have read this thread a bit better no?
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-10-07 14:13 [#00893354]
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i might get diary for my birthday in two days...we'll see, i have so many books to read as it is.
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2003-10-07 14:57 [#00893417]
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HAHAHA true story , someone lent me the book last year and I havnt read it. Its in my FAKE to read pile that I made. My real to read pile is Isaac Asimov science books. Im right into them at the moment.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-07 15:59 [#00893475]
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Glamorama, what a book!
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-10-07 16:37 [#00893508]
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Hm, I guess it wouldn't hurt to read one then - I saw the Fight Club movie, so something else...
I gotta get back into reading fiction! Last things I was reading were Thomas Pynchon and Flannery O'Connor, then I fell into the trap of reading big thick programming doorstops. :-/
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2003-10-07 16:49 [#00893513]
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i don't like palahniuk. his style doesn't vary throughout his novels, nor has it grown at all since fight club. i dislike his supposedly "hard boiled" writing style, in which he says things are the color of piss or shit, which is supposedly very "real". i also think theres little to no variation in his stories, all are predictably badly written, badly researched, and, since fight club, predictably "crazy".
i did however enjoy fight club, but then i realized he was writing the same book over and over again and posing as the voice of a generation.
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mimi
on 2003-10-07 19:12 [#00893624]
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i'll say he isn't earth shattering, but i do think that all of his books are very fun and easy reads...
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-10-07 19:20 [#00893635]
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I agree on his style not changing much from book to book - but I do like his concepts, his content.
although there are recurring themes, he also has pretty interesting ideas, which he then gives form in his stories pretty adequately, I think.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-19 10:01 [#01040517]
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Guts will be in the March edition of Playboy. Whoop! A legitimate excuse to buy porn!
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Asche XL
on 2004-01-19 10:11 [#01040535]
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He was on Conan O'Brien last week. All they talked about was how alot of people get sick during/after reading his novels.
Anyway, I'm reading Choke and Fight Club right now. I wish I read the book before seeing the movie ( fav movie) because now all I do is picture ed norton and brad pitt.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-19 10:20 [#01040538]
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thats what I hate about seeing a movie before reading the book
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blowfield
on 2004-01-19 10:34 [#01040553]
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I only read Choke of him, but I wanna read some other books of him, too, in future.
Irvine Welsh is great! I have read most of his books
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