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Every country is bad. I just live here |
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unfortunately people like steve from Chaicago run the world . The blind led by evil conspirators. The willing victims of discord fear for the future, these blind rabid sheep will make a desert out of everyones homes and then yours and finally their own. steve , you are a moron . unless you're being sarcastic , in which case ha ha. Why are you equating defence of your family with aggression of 'your' nation ? Thats nazism if ever I saw it |
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Ahhh.... the evidence of thoughtless patriotism droning is right here! Steve that is an unfortunate thing to hear you say. It also promotes an exagerated form of an american stereotype. I only hope your reference of family disputes are conflicts with your parants and hopefully you don't have children. To disagree with you government is NOT unpatriotic! Don't think that because someone speaks out against important US gov. actions that they are anti-US. You speak like you have been completely manipulated. I am from Canada and you can bitch slap Canada all day. I would likely agree with you. Opposing views and decention are vital. Don't vilify people for it. |
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even the Netherlands have had bit of a scrap with the US in the last two months. it was proposed that the international war tribunal would be situated in The Hague here. now Mr.Bush & friends passed a law that if an american g.i. would stand in court here, America could invade the Netherlands.. jesus. then there was an article in a newspaper about a New York professor (sadly can't remember his name..) who said that the US see Europe as a third world country. |
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democracy is a fraud, get used to it |
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ya, steve ur an idiot its people like you who make horrible wars possible, and let leaders get away w/ some downright evil shit (Nazi Germany comes to mind) |
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I must apologize..when I say Americans..I do honestly mean the current regime and the Intelligence, Millitary Industry... Yeah voting is an option but you have to admit that Bush got elected under highly dubious circumstances..half the country didnt vote for him..and ever since then he has been holding the terrorism and war as a Sword of Damocles over the nation's head..with total support of the media... |
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just fucking dicusting.... damn.... the american government are total fucking basterds... i bet in 20 years time only then will we here the atrocious crimes commited to afghani people...... i can't believe that the american people are so oblivious to their government doing such crimes and more... Terrorism : The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons. is this terrorism... indeed... the sole purpose for america taking over afghanistan was to get their greedy hands on their oil.... read about it |
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Who's Bin Logden? |
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what's to stop anyone with a political motivation to write a deliberately false or exaggerated story that makes one side look morally inferior or superior? |
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everybody's innocent. |
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thats only if you read info from one source... i read from many... |
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well the American media are the masters of that!! It somehow repeatedly justifies bombing raids as an act of freedom, justice and peace, even it entails frying children alive with Agent Orange.. |
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i agree with steve really.i dont care about the bad press...and if we are stealing from other countries,sucks for them. |
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i think you guys should read your own words...many sources....im thinkin you read all the negative ones. |
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yeh sure buddy... i am not going to properly reply to someone who just wrote "i dont care about the bad press...and if we are stealing from other countries,sucks for them"............ you sound like a 10-12 year old complete moron. |
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Only because the positive aspects of the War on Terrorism(is that an oxymoron?) are beamed in 24/7 every time you switch on the Tube/Radio or pick any Newspaper or Magazine.. |
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yes,i am a nazi *goosesteps* and im actually a 17 year old idiot. |
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oh yeah, a 17 year old americanized nazi idiot |
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Call me an idiot, a moron, whatever you like. I sleep well and my conscience is clear. If you guys have a problem with my country, or with your government, or the state of the world in general, that's your problem. I place my trust in suits that run my country and go about my life. |
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Well everything must be peachy-fuckin-creamy in your life. You must be earning a great wage, have great health insurance, be immune to the effects of global warming, free from the anxiety of further reprisals against the acts of your government, have an oil well in your back garden, happy with corporate fraud and like being ruled by a redneck with the mental capacity of an 8 year old. |
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I can't even be arsed to post in this thread. Oh, wait, I just did (mandatory lameass joke) |
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jonesy, don't let the hate consume you my good man. You can spend your time worrying about the world's problems or just enjoy the time you have. It's your choice. |
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Well I could, but being anally raped by my government, your government and my employer is kind of hard to ignore. |
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Well that's a damn shame. Maybe you'll have better luck in the next life. |
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My next life won't be here if I play my cards right. This world sucks ass and I need off it soon. I'm guilty of submitting to the shinny things sometimes, like money, products etc. But I'm slowly changing. If you thick discussing all this is in vein it's not because people like Jonesy open my eyes to many things each time. I was so dumb and when I woke up it was amazing. I can't believe how much shit the ones in power get away with. The more people whom wake up the better and anyone sleeping will simply fail to live. I'm happy to learn all I can so if I do anything in my life its pass on these words so the message don't get erased by the system. |
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Yeah man, rip the system and all that good shit. It's just a phase, you'll outgrow it. |
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No man, one day you'll grow up and realise you're being taken for a ride. All this 'don't-give-a-shit' bravado is kind of immature. If you can't see that you are RULED and exploited and that the wider world has an impact on your life I feel sorry for you. |
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I outgrew my stupidity. I look around and everything makes me want to vomit. Everything is fake cheep plastic shit. Without going into my religion the whole deal with my wings is so I can fly away from clones like you. Think I'll change and you are sadly wrong. I won't see you in my afterlife. Thats all I have to say tho, I do hope you have a good life Steve, good job you where born in the good ol U S of A cuz many people have it shitty thanks to your government. You are so lucky and unlucky at the same time. Mmm, Drop into the Gap, became a clone. I stop now. Bye. |
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jonesy, i'm well aware of your point of view. I know what's going on. I don't need a wake up call. I'm know i'm a pawn, i'm a sheep, i'm a whatever you want to call it. I know this and i'm fine with it. I'll let people like you continue your futile efforts trying to change the world to suit you. The main difference between us is I know i'm a sheep, you don't. You think because you've read a few things online, maybe a few books, that you're "enlightened". You've just found another shephard. And Spikee, take Fight Club out your DVD player. There's no revolution going on. Have a Coke and a smile. |
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Oh and let me remind you that you're typing this anti-capitalist, anti-corporate nonsense on a COMPUTER. The biggest tool capitalism and corporations have at the present time. With every keystroke you're supporting everything you hate. |
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You're standing back and excusing your government executing their power in whichever way they choose ; without demanding accountability , ethical practice & openness to criticism ("if you're not with us you're against us"; ie a terrorist ) . People like you are freeloaders who spend life ignorantly spoonfed a version of reality that suits the agenda of the powerful . You condescendingly state to board members that its our choice to be 'consumed with hate.' We aint , we just have eyes open. We realise that America is a nation that George W Bush is filling with hate & he's consuming the planet with its hate.Wake up brother ! |
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*sighs* I've seen Fight Club once and it was a long time after I had my beliefs. I have it on video not DVD. I don't drink Cola because it contains too much sugar and rots bones. I like to drink 'water' pure and simple. It hydrates me without mentally stimulating caffeine and helps my body work the way it should. Water also speed your metabolism up 2% So stop trying to psyche me out because you are far from capable of it. |
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Necessary evil. I am forced all day to confirm to those standards and I can't help it. One of the reasons I'm so annoyed. Computers allow people with like minds to communicate so we can use this against anyone we desire. Your arguments are getting very weak Steve. I mean drink a cola... Water is so much better. It's actually good for you. |
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Remember the days when you drank Coke because it tasted good? This is a good example of what i'm talking about. One day you decided to stop drinking Coke because of the sugar, the rotting of bones (which will happen eventually), and whatever other health reasons. You'll deprive yourself of the sweet taste to what.. prolong the life you're living? Why.. if you're apparently suffering in it? I'm young; i'm going to drink Coke, eat greasy cheeseburgers, buy certain clothing simply because of a label, buy a certain car because it 'gets chicks', say "fuck off" to homeless people who beg me for change. I do what I want. In many ways i'm freer than many of you. You get too caught up in trying to do the right thing; I say just do what's best for you. Fuck everyone else. Do what brings you peace of mind. |
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No, it's not necessary. Don't give me that shit. You don't "need" a computer. There was life before the invention of the home computer and there will be life after it becomes obsolete. You choose to be on a computer. Plain and simple. |
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The assumption that technology or consumer goods are part of the problem we are outlining is really confused. Its not computers etc that are the problem but the relations surrounding the production and distribution of the means of survival or even entertainment. You can try and ignore it and look after number one but at certain points in your life you will experience yourself up against those in power, whether you wish to acknowledge it or not. My outlook IS shaped by what's best for me. Whereas you have convinced yourself that you can carve out a life for yourself untouched by the social relations of our society. In this sense YOU are the idealist. |
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woah. i thought this was the APHEX TWIN message board. ah well. |
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Curses, foiled again! Well it was interesting talking to you guys. It'd probably be more fun if I didn't see/have this discussion a million times before. Check you later. |
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Steve: I started drinking coke because everyone used to and because it was heavily marketed. i stopped because I did not want to support multinational capitalism. And you know what: I discovered that I didn't even like the taste when i tried it out again. Simple as that. |
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I use a computer to talk to people who think the same as me so I can develop my knowledge and yes download music. I try to enjoy life as I avoid what I can. I don't drink cola because sweet = nothing. Since I started relying on water to live I feel fresh and healthy, Cola gave me stomach pains and I had to stop. Your argument is weak and rather lame. I don't deprive myself of the things I like and want to enjoy life but I ensure I do my best not to do it at the expense of others. I'm in this world so I can't help but absorb some of it. No great cure but the fact I can communicate with the likes of Jonesy makes me stronger then you and the fact I can avoid the simply wrong gives me peace of mind and more enjoyment then polluting myself with sweet flavor chemicals. I admit, I can be a slave to the system. I smoke (re; polluting my body. Chemically addicted to nicotine from a long time ago, trying to quit etc.). But by the gods I swear I will never adopt a lousy attitude like yours Steve. You got yours hmm? I hope one day you don't and my words suddenly make sense. |
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Shit, too late. |
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I hear you Meho. When I switched on I realized it tasted like corrosive chemicals with lots of sugar. I love drinking pure water. |
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Me too, i almost exclusively drink mineral water or natural juices. But I'm not some kind of hippy idealist, no. I just find these things to be tasty, compared to soft drinks/ spirits that I've tasted that's all. I can relate to Steve's attitude to an extent: he's basically being nihilistic but not to its final conclusion. He values his comfort and the fact that his comfort equals coca-cola is not really my cup of tea.... Then again, it's his choice... |
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Ever been to Turkey? Most the drinks there are pure juices in tins. Thay just wont drink cola and if you make a turkish guy try it he will normally twist his face and spit it out. Quite fun. I guess i'm half Hippy half 'I don't like it' I can deal with Steve but I find it sad. A lot of people dislike me so i'm used to it. |
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No, I haven't been to Turkey, but my brother is currently there on his holidays so I'll ask him about coke when he gets back. I am really happy that they hate the thing. I mean, coke is really a global phenomenon in its own right. There's this famous slovenian philosopher Slavoj Zizek, he made an essay on coca-cola recently where he says that coca-cola demonstrates the victory of marketing and form over use and content: it's not healthy, it only makes you more thristy and the only thing useful in it is sugar. THEN you get diet coke, which is sugar-free and you really begin to wonder, why the hell are you drinking this stuff??? I guess it's the same thing with cigarettes: just the pressure of marketing/ tradition. |
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I agree Meho. Ask him if he drank 'Cappy' That was great stuff. Pure juice in a tin and frosted it was wonderful. Peaches and everything else simply pure. I bet cola own that tho. :/ |
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Haha, yeah, the problem with multinational corporations is that they no longer just drown the competition out, they just buy them off... |
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Mineral water?! I knew you were a yuppie. You are Cassandra to my Del-Boy! |
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No, why, what's wrong with mineral water. It's just that it tastes excellent and it even has no gas in it. BTW, I've just sent you an email. |
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