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right on, zaphod!!! |
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zaphod..... i have listened and i do honestly dislike this band.... and i think they are mainstream and they attempt to be mainstream but also try to he hard asses and say "no were not, we never want to be mainstream".... this band has done nothing original, it continually eveloving by listeneing to others music and trying to blend it intop theirs... ever since the start. |
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um. well for one i don't think they blend it on top of their music but more into their music. radiohead are a band filled with influences, but, with the exception of a couple of songs and they're first album, they don't wear the influences on their collective sleeve. its cool if you don't like them, but their image is unimportant. i'm also sick of these afx fans/lambs saying "well, rdj says they suck, must be true." frankly, rdj seems like an asshole. i love his music, and hes entitled to his opinion, but don't take it as being the endall of music criticism. |
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"this band has done nothing original, it continually eveloving by listeneing to others music and trying to blend it intop theirs... " err...isnt this kinda what most musicians tend to do? i dont think there are any artists who create music within a total vacuum.. the most original artists are the ones who manage to blend others music together the most creatively... |
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exactly. they evolve as all artists do. within music, people choose to express themselves in various ways using different instruments, and radiohead are simply trying something new. its the same as afx doing straight piano on drukqs. you liked that didn't you? radiohead are entitled to experimentation, and if it makes them a better band, then more power to them. |
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i do love me somes radiohead, but you've got to notice the similarities between idioteque and 4... play 4 slow or idioteque fast... they're very similar, at least when 4 is in one of the parts with less snare... |
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zaphod RDJ is an asshole and a very funny one at that :), wayout there are a hell of a lot of artists that listen to no music for a month or two before they start making music.... |
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gotta agree that rdj is funny. i mean if you hate radiohead, fine. just do it because you actually, profoundly dislike their music, not because you don't like thom yorke (who also happens to seem like an asshole, and not a very funny one) or their image. |
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and yeah, supposedly rdj and boc create music in a "total vacuum", or atleast used too. |
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ok listen to these radiohead songs and tell me they're not being original: my iron lung climbing up the walls pearly* morning bell like spinning plates kinetic fog worrywort you just hold them to ridiculous standards just cos they're popular AND respected among music buffs. btw roygbivcore: i do not hear similaries between 4 and idioteque at ALL. |
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yeah...but that doesnt mean they completely forget all the music thats inspired them ...artists sometimes avoid listening to music while working on their own to lessen the distraction... (coinicidentally, radiohead are one of these bands...) you have to remember that most musicians start making music because they were inspired by the work of others |
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tit i would download them and tell you why i think each of them sucks ass (fat ugly piply ass) BUT my 56k connection is quite shit and it would take far to long |
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have you heard these songs before? |
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Radiohead has a great style, I very much like them. I don't listen to them as much simply because i'm out constantly ingesting/consuming new styles (currently scientific synthetic japanese minimal/ambient is on the menu), But if i didn't have programs like soulseek, and was stuck with the few cd's i deem worthy enough to buy, i'd definatly listen to radiohead a lot more. About Kid rock disliking them, well, that's his opinion, and he's entitled to it. I personally don't know what to think of the man's personality (i've never met him), but i don't care much for his music. Maybe he got swindled on ebay. He placed bids for Osama bin laden paper, but got fucked, and they sent him radio head, and he had to use SOMETHING creative for the video. |
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wayout there is a difference between being inspired and listening to someones music and saying "cool... i am going to put this shit on my next record" |
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the last four he listed: fog, kinetic, worrywort, and like spinning plates, are original as anything i've heard from afx or anyone else, and they're mindblowingly good. |
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"musical vacuum" is a bullshit concept, you're always influenced by the music you listen to. RDJ may be a masterful and innovative composer of electronic music but his music always has reference points. i don't have to even analyze his 80s and early 90s stuff, i think most of you are quite familiar with the electronic scene at that time. and listening to drukqs (perhaps my fave aphex twin album) i hear a lot of influences from squarepusher and bogdan raczynski. whoever said that a lot of people on this board just talk shit about radiohead cos RDJ's gone on record to say he doesn't like their music (and he's never been specific about why) couldn't be more right. isn't it ironic that you put down mainstream music only to be a sheep in underground music? |
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well now what the hell did rdj do with eric saties music? because it sure as hell sounds like hes taken the trois gymnopodies, slowed them down even more, and done very little to change them on drukqs. |
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i haave herd worrywort.... no sir i dont like it.... i just sound like music for the greater population to me |
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yes, but they have also claimed to be influenced by many other artists.. when they say they make music in a 'vacuum' they dont mean they make music without ever having heard anyone else's music before.. |
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ok fine. but you only point out radioheads fault in aspiring to make music that may bear some resemblance to that of others. what about squarepusher- jaco pasorious. or afx - all 80's detroit techno, especially LFO, and satie and even squarepusher. |
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i'm on a 56k modem as well! anyway, my iron lung is on 'the bends', 'climbing up the walls' ok computer, 'morning bell' kid a, 'like spinning plates' amnesiac - find someone who has these albums and give these songs a listen (i assume you've heard these albums before to have such a strong opinion on the band). |
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all artists borrow ideas and the best ones warp them into something new, which is exactly what radiohead have done. your reasons for disliking them just don't seem at all valid. |
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Yeah, i notice that hipocracy that many "cultures." A few days ago a bunch of "goths" were putting down this sterotypical, yellow-vest wearing, "prep" for browsing around HOT TOPIC, and all i could think about is the simple fact that they were just as bad as the ppl who they tell me they hated, for the very same reasons they hated them. This phenonina happens in all circles. I don't get it. I thought the whole idea of escaping trends where putting down something, or blindlessly following an icon was the trendy thing to do, so that you can asociate amognst those whole share the same valuse. Not to create a new arena where the escaped become the captors. pitiful. |
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Switch: you must have a VERY generous opinion of people's musical tastes cos in my view most people don't like that sort of stuff. i don't know what country you live in but in the united states the radio (nor mtv) does not play anything like "worrywort." |
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you seem to be under the impression that thom york went out and bought lp5 and the rdj album a day before they started recording kid a and said 'ok this is what our next album is going to sound like' ...he had been into electronic music all along (he was in an electronic group during college) hes even said that artists like aphex and ae were more of an inspiration on ok computer.. supposedly after the whole ok computer situation, he became fed up with rock music and wanted to get as far away from it as he could..so he went back and started listening to all that warp stuff again.. |
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titsworth (its strange typing this word), is right. radiohead are almost never played on radio in the us, and when they are its either creep or karma police. i can't think of a mainstream radiostation or music channel airing Worrywort. in fact that song has always reminded me of ambient works with the haze of nostalgia that seems to surround it. i would think of all their songs an afx fan would actually like that one. |
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oh man, its taking me too long to write these posts... the posts within the gaps are making things confusing...were you responding to me zaphod? |
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well right now i live in australia and i hear at least one radiohead song whilst i am working every night......... nanotech were you refering to me ? if so then you are doing the same as your message by thinking that just cause i dislike a band i must dislike them cause someone else told me to... whereas in reality i just dont like them cause i dont like the music they make. i only have one radiohead song on one of my compilation cd's it creep, and its boaring to say the least |
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shit. this sounds stupid, but how do you indicate who you are responding to, like in the bar where it has your status. i have to keep saying it and its getting annoying. oh yeah, i was responding to titsworth, or more like agreeing with them. |
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"Like Spinning Plates" is an incredibly original song and I have heard nothing like it. And if you want to get all abstract too then "Fitter Happier" is really original as well. But if you still insist they are unoriginal, since when does an artist have to make completely groundbreaking music to be good? I like some bands that are very 'inspired' by others but still write great music. |
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click the number at the end of the post info zaphod from Reston, Virginia (United States) on 2002-07-30 03:05 [#00330158] <---- |
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well, as i've said throughout this topic, anyone who likes afx, mainly drukqs, or squarepusher, mainly hard normal daddy, but then complains that radiohead are unoriginal, is ill informed. that sentece had too many commas in it. |
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i never really though my iron lung was that orriginal... but the rest are excellent. and besides, you might as well ignore switchfrontside... with a location like " A spoon full of acid helps the shrooms go down" he's way too cool to be bothered by us, cause he does drugs! :thumbs up!: |
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thats great... i only wish i was as cool as you... and you solution to ignore anyone that has a different opinion to you is very typical wouldn't have expected anything else from you.... well done... i hope you can figure out which one is you thumb so you can stick it up. |
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alright you two...break it up... lets keep the discussion civilized... |
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ok time to add my two cents here..... radiohead is one of the most original and innovative bands. i know they are not everyone's cup of tea, wheather it's thoms voice, the tempo of some of the songs, the lyrics.....etc... but you have to ADMIT that they are TALENTED!! OK Computer is FLAWLESS!!! =0) and thom isn't gonna kill himself anytime soon contrary to what everyone thought! bahhhh titsworths recommendations are FABU....check them out! |
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i was responding to titsworth's post [#00330127] (which is a resonce to zaphod's post [#00330108], and a synopsis of sub cultures' (this MB's to be more specific) hyprocrasy)...look at the follow up, next to the numbers before you critizie one's opinion like that. |
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i said nanotech were you refering to me ?, IF SO if not = ignore my comments cause you wern't refering to me therfore they arn't valid. |
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i know exactly which two digits are my thumbs. |
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congratulations...... you can put them down now.... |
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sorry dude...i miss-read you, but you should have known who i was refering to in the first place. |
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i will never put my thumbs down... for the greater good |
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what does "my iron lung" sound like? it has a sort of rap/rock feel in the bridge, except it came out in 1994, not 2002. |
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radiohead probably don't like Kid Rock either... but you don't see them making fun of him? It's so childish. And how could anyone not like radiohead? ;-) |
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radiohead probably don't like Kid Rock either... but you don't see them making fun of him? It's so childish. And how could anyone not like radiohead? ;-) |
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damnit! That was my first post today, and i got this screen that said "you're posting too frequently, calm down you cunt!", that's ridiculous :-p Also, SURELY i posted more than 5 messages yesterday and the day before that aswell... how come i'm still a lurker? |
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They have definately gone down hill the last few years.... Time they hung up their shoes me thinks! |
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being a very huge radiohead fan, i can only say that radiohead-hatred is a definate sign of ignorance and an under education of what is artistic, original, and unique. amen. |
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To say that Aphex doesn't have influences is ridiculous. Listen to SAW2, then hear some Steve Reich and Philip Glass. AFX may as well have called is 'Selected Reichist Works' or something... I wouldn't say My Iron Lung is original, quite like The Pixies I think. Neither's Fitter Happier, although it is rather nice. To those saying that Radiohead aren't mainstream, well, Radiohead made number one in the album charts with their last two albums in both the US and the UK, and probably a whole load of other countries aswell. If somebody who gets to number one like that isn't mainstream, who is? |
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