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aiiii folks, just watched this movie having never heard about it before (i don't watch tv or go to the cinema unfortunately xD I think its a worthwhile movie all in all, nice concepts that they dabble with. Only thing that sucked is that it didn't really make sense why the engineers turned out to be wankers, i thought there was gonna be a huge orgy when they all found each other, using the robot inspector gadget guy as a prop. boy was i disappointed at that..... |
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it was okay. the separate bit and pieces were good, but it just didn't cohere into a solid movie at the end of it all. there were great set pieces and moments, but i had no clue why anyone was doing anything - every character's motivations seemed completely hidden, each one was just there to serve a purpose, themselves being set pieces. also, the final scene is just puke. were they really trying to setup a sequel? |
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To everyone with all those questions about the movie Prometheus. When I watched this film the first time I though "eh" so many questions, i thought made the movie lack structure. But after I read this forum post I totally changed my opinion on the movie. seen it twice since then |
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I have a theory that the director is actually a Sesame Street character called Wriggly Scott. He's related to Oscar's pet worm Slimy. Watch it again, it will BLOW YOUR MIND. |
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I get that there's alot of references and allegories, and jesus-me-this and jesus-me-that, but it's not the idea themselves that makes it bad, it's the execution. And the notion itself, that God is von Däniken, really means nothing, since it's just a big what if-scenario. What if we are created by aliens? Yeah, so what? What if we are created by unicorns? Movies like, say, Bladerunner works because the questions they pose, are phenomenological, and not merely hypothetical. |
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* it's not the ideas themselves that make it GOOD, it's the execution. |
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fuck it, i am disappoint. |
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yeah. dissapointed also. first of all fuck whoever decided that this is 3d only. every movie i have seen in 3d has gained nothing besides my frustration about a much higher ticket cost, sore eyes and not seeing shit on the screen due to the darker projection. i really hope they'll show at least batman in some non-3d screening. i basically kind of destroyed my whole mood before even watching it after i read that a sequel was already announced. and this is where you can stop reading, basically. the film is basically designed to not answer any questions at all. so why bothering watching it at all ? i really love contemplating about difficult movies but in this case, as long as most of the theories will be debunked anyway in the next parts there is absolutely no reason to do so. problem is - i'm very afraid scott doesn't know himself. answering at least a few questions would mean tieing the movie to a certain theory. the way he did even the ridiculous jesus-was-an-engineer story might end up true when he'll see a lot of supporters of this one. which i hope he doesn't. i could probably forgive this if the movie would make it up with other elements. but there is not much to look at. giger did a very nice job with creating the alien world but someone did a terrible job on the human side. the characters are 2d and totally expendable. besides shaw and david nobody really seems to bother a lot with the outcome of the mission at all. i know that this was supposed to bring back the mood of the original alien but this was pretty pointless. yeah and besides that those comedian quirks like shaw running around af a cesarian, the totally racist persona of janek, the bad makeup of weyland etc. etc. |
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I have not seen it yet. |
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I streamed it in shitty quality a while ago. it was a shitty film. - it starts with a avatard lookin humanoid - i got instagay vibes from that scene. - the characters are about as dull as those found in most modern films. their scripts were boring and for some reason the new job of casting agents is to dig up forgettable faces that are sort of 'correct' and bland. really really hated that woman we were supposed to give a shit about and as this film was trying to conceptually reflect the 1st alien for whatever chinstrokey reason i guess this biatch was supposed to be the new ripley. i fucking hate this decade - the alien architechture shit was SHIT i felt like i was watching something cheapy like fucking stargate trying to be gigeresq. hieroglyphs and holograms of avatards running around really didnt interest me and the bit where the robot fella (the new ash - i hate this fucking decade) went into that room and activated the starmap or whatever -yeah the bit where he had to blow on a FUCKING FLUTE and computery halo lookin shit started whizzing around. urgh - the alien life forms were spazzy disjointed ideas and i really blank out of films these days whenever they feel like going on about infections so yeah the zombie thing was gay and wasnt needed. -cant think of anything that redeems it. its a disaster made much worse by the way it tries to molest the ideas of the first alien even though i suspect the film sees itself as making clever parallels with the original (that will make sense in TEH SEQUEL and also say something wanky about 'films then and now' - get fucked) |
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Fuck all you nitwit haters. It's great! |
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just watched it again, it's still stupid |
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Lol..I still have to see this..Indeksial kept me from going by saying: "-crazone, there is one scene with Giger artwork". |
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i watched it the other day and i quite enjoyed it, mainly because i had no expectations and just wanted to have some espacial-adventure-film time and i was satisified in that sense. but its true, the plot was a bit weak and the things happening without much sense... compared to aliens and the tension and opressive feeling they got there, it was real shit... its like they got plenty of interesting ideas, but they were badly developed. |
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^^^^agreed. it's not bad but it's not mind-blowing, either. Rapace is no Weaver, that's for sure. the only character that stayed in my memory was...Vickers. Theron was great, I must say. I watched it twice and then I watched Avengers: Avengers win. how ? in the "new films I've been waiting for" category |
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uhhh man it sucked i wont sit thru it again but its probably not the develish work of shitness i typed it out to be before. its a modern film thing like the way dark knight has a sloppy plot and good actors (gary oldman/charlize theron) are squeezed into seriously flat roles. this is topped off with a complete lack of finesse in executing the subtext, which it sort of unnecessarily burdens itself with. then the fucking flute bit and i just dont like the way everything looks sort of like xbox cutscene which is ok for halo but this is halofying one of the most sacred film moments. why did ridley think the plot needed to be thickened by demonstrating that fascinating unexplained lifeform in the first film was really this boring flute wanker in a whizzy fold away tech suit? |
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actually i swear halo has a lot to answer for in all of this. very scenery intensive flood/infection forerunners/ancient technology |
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lol i totally watched the avengers afterwards as well! |
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yea, i agree with obbie, even if im not a big fan of superheroes, the avengers was quite fun for its totally unpretentious plot and the fight of characters personalities |
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A about this film that explains a lot and drags the classical story of Prometheus into it. |
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I just realised you posted the same article. Anyway. |
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heh heh |
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why was that big pale alien man so beastly and violent? and what was that big squid thing? |
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vaginalien |
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I don't know why we have google. hedphukker seems to know everything there is to know. |
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so, do you plan to ever actually contribute to the discussion taking place? or is my joke combining the words "vagina" and "alien" too know-it-all for you to handle? |
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dear Mr. Hedsppurker here is review thing. is that guy on the left the funny voice on the reviews? |
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he walks in at the end. |
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yep, that's him alright! those half in the bag reviews are pretty funny. |
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I really prefer the critics... but... |
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My theory is that the space jockeys will turn to not be our creators in the sequel films, but rather a sister species engineered by something else. That is why they hate us and want to kill us. Could be wrong, but even though they are more advanced than us something about them engineering us doesn't seem quite right so far. |
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then how would you explain the first scene where the engineer is shown seeding dna on some other, earth-like planet? i suppose you could say it was the "engineers" going off and trying to do what their engineers did, but that'd be really obtuse. which, now that i say it, seems totally plausible in this universe :P |
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I need to watch that part again, but wasn't he drinking the black liquid? Everything else that stuff produced was not nice, so is he seeding the planet to make something like humans, or something like trilobites and xenomorphs? It is possible that they took the technology of their makers and turned it into a weapon to destroy rather than create. |
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Another thing I read is that there are simply multiple factions of the engineers, some that like us and some that don't. In the beginning the engineer is wearing a robe and sacrifices himself, so he is one of the peace loving ones, while the ones later are wearing black body armor so they are the warlike faction that hates us and uses the technology for pathogens and destruction. In that case I would stick with other, peace loving engineers as the ones who made us, but we found the warlord, assholes of the species. |
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Quit trying to rationalise it. Lindelof is a cunt who fucked it right up. The cunt. |
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EVERYONE BE QUIET - THIS MAN SPEAKS THE TRUTH! |
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Finally I've seen it, one scene with giger artwork? They are walking through his artwork the whole movie...loved it, the story and Hollywood influences ruine everything for sure but that doesn't matter: it's great to see more of his alien space stuff in a movie..now let's wait and hope for the sequels |
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I cannot find the words to describe how much I dislike this film. What a fucking mess. My esteemed colleague Giginger is exactly right - Lindelof done and fucked it right up, the wishy-washy, faux-spiritual cunt. |
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You dislike the movie, but do you dislike gigers artwork too? |
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Looking forward to part 2! I'll say it again, but i enjoyed myself. I didn't have any expectations and i'm glad i didn't. |
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No, I like parts of it. And all his design work on the original Alien is, ofcourse, intensely great. (But so is Ron Cobb's work on the design of the Nostromo.) |
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ALIEN is just a small part of his art work, it was the breakthrough in his carrier but his other stuff is genial |
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I live quite near his museum. |
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You're from Switzerland? |
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I don't know, what I've seen of his non-Alien stuff seems kind of shit to me. The whole biomechanic erotica thing.. it doesn't float my boat. (And I didn't even mention that microphone stand he done and did for Korn. It's just wrong.) |
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I live near the Giger Museum. |
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In my opinion he's the best artist in the world, long story. |
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Pics please. |
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Pics of what? |
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