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Burial - Untrue (Sample Clearance)
 

offline DirtyPriest from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2008-01-21 06:24 [#02165881]
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Makes sense... He actually mentions in an interview, that he
takes samples from playstation games.


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2008-01-22 06:42 [#02166221]
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Kode9 video interview.
LAZY_TITLE

He goes a bit into sampling and the legality of it.


 

offline observereternal on 2008-03-12 02:27 [#02184466]
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Endorphin:

Lost Carol


 

offline retape from http://retape.net (Norway) on 2008-03-12 09:03 [#02184527]
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this thread is interesting!


 

offline 010101 from Vancouver (Canada) on 2008-03-12 11:40 [#02184571]
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I'll be talking to him tonight, I will ask him.


 

offline big from lsg on 2008-03-13 01:31 [#02184790]
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amazing


 

offline 010101 from Vancouver (Canada) on 2008-03-13 09:52 [#02184873]
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The majority of the samples have clearence, although most of
the permission was gained after release, unbeknown to the
original artist but they have said 'yes' now so they can't
sue. The samples that do not have permission are pretty safe
as they would fall into the 'unrecognisable by the layman',
as in the Beastie Boys ruling. I hope this puts everyone at
ease.


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2008-03-13 10:14 [#02184883]
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that is kule and i am glad nobody is getting sued. did you
do an interview or something?


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2008-03-13 10:39 [#02184890]
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I liek Burial even more now. What a brilliant warping of
samples into something that sounds only and uniquely like
him / her / it / them.

010101, could you tell me more about this "unrecognizable by
the layman" loophole?


 

offline 010101 from Vancouver (Canada) on 2008-03-13 11:09 [#02184898]
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The Beastie Boys used a flute peice, they got permission
from the publishers but not the artist. The case rested on
the fact the original piece was not distiguisable (by the
layman) and that the band had altered it enough to use at
their own.

The initial problem arose from the fact that the publisher
did not realise that the artist had to OK the sample before
they gave permission. But the term 'unrecognisable by the
layman' set a presidence for law regarding sampling.

I hope this clears things up.


 

offline 010101 from Vancouver (Canada) on 2008-03-13 11:14 [#02184899]
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"We hold that Beastie Boys' use of a brief segment of that
composition, consisting of three notes separated by a
half-step over a background C note, is not sufficient to
sustain a claim for infringement of Newton's copyright,"
Chief Judge Mary Schroeder said.



 

offline Brisk from selling smack at the orphanage on 2008-03-13 11:24 [#02184901]
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Good stuff. I guess Kode 9 didn't expect Burial to blow up
like he did, so i'm sure now that he'll go out of his way to
get sample clearance before any of his releases come out.
That might also be the cause of delay for the new 12"
actually...


 

offline observereternal on 2008-04-10 00:09 [#02192906]
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The words spoken in the intro are from David Lynch's INLAND
EMPIRE. A great scene I might add.

"I'll show you light now. It burns bright forever."

You can see it listed Here towards the bottom.
It's spoken by "street person 1"

The strangest thing is, when I first heard 'Untrue', the
mood of the album reminded me of Inland Empire... and then I
noticed the quote from the film.


 

offline Falito from Balenciaga on 2008-04-10 00:47 [#02192907]
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Deja Vu


 

offline BoxBob-K23 from Finland on 2008-04-10 04:47 [#02192924]
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yea I noticed that right away - and it was funny too,
considering that the film had only been out a little while


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2008-04-10 04:51 [#02192925]
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i saw a shitty kids film on tv (just a 30 minute stare) and
noticed one bit which was definitely sampled in the burial
untrue album

the film is called 'bogus' < 4.6 rating (imdb)


 

offline cx from Norway on 2008-04-10 06:56 [#02192950]
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wow.. thats awesome.

i dont have the guts to use any unlicensed samples like
that, but i wish i could, movies is a GREAT resource


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2010-09-11 06:32 [#02392526]
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too lazy to re-read thread.
in endorphin, he pitched up the the last bit of female
vocals in the silent hill movie.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2010-09-11 12:07 [#02392539]
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it doesn't make sense to do any sample clearance before
someone tells you to do so.

if burial would send out mails for every sample he used,
firstly he would have to send a few dozen requests, secondly
being a unrecognisable artist he would get 90 % denies.

i once tried to get clearance for using tracks in a
non-profit film project and i got 3 of 11 cleared. we still
made the movie and noone complains until now.

now when burial is already known clearance is much easier
for him. and i can even imagine that most companies/artists
really care about this.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2010-09-11 12:08 [#02392540]
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it would be quite awesome if for example venetian snares had
to clear every sample used. he would never be able to do it.
still, as a unrecognisable artist nobody cares about this.


 


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