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offline Quernstone from Padova (Italy) on 2004-06-18 07:37 [#01245829]
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holdtight then, don't let slip. Live everyday of what you
have as if it were your last. Treat her well, make her feel
like the luckiest woman alive.


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-18 07:38 [#01245831]
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I hope you all feel happier soon :)


 

offline Mertens from Motor City (United States) on 2004-06-18 07:52 [#01245844]
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A question to all those who are brokenhearted here. Was it
worth it?


 

offline eXXailon from purgatory on 2004-06-18 08:28 [#01245896]
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Thanks, I will certainly do so and I think I'm doing a good
job so far :)

Good luck to you too!


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2004-06-18 08:32 [#01245899]
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i hate heartbreak. it ruins me. but, then again, i'm a
pansy.


 

offline J Swift from United Kingdom on 2004-06-18 11:32 [#01246092]
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Ah, I really feel for you - Yeah, the last time I broke up
with mine we were living together - That was hard, but when
it actually came to her moving out I think we let out a lot
of emotions then, and that made it easier to wake up the
next day and feel a bit like a fresh start.

Although the bed felt kind of painfully empty for a long
while - I'd always find sanctuary in the early hours, after
1am - Go to bed when the sun came up.

This time round she told me she'd met someone else over the
phone, which I find much harder to deal with.

I definetly relate to the feeling of bereavement - Feels
like a part of me has died too.

I regret how complacent I become when I'm in a tight
relationship like that - It can feel so natural you almost
become indifferent to it - And unless you're in exactly the
same place in life, I guess that can be misinterpretted.

Was it all worth it?

Yeah, deep down it's only these things that make us feel
really alive I guess... I called her to tell her I love her
the other day, for the first time properly I just realised -
And that was emotional - Made me feel terrible, but also
made me feel so alive.

Alice In Chains "Jar of Flies" album is getting me through
it..


 

offline dequalsrxt from Los Angeles (United States) on 2004-06-18 11:37 [#01246101]
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of course it's worth it. i don't think the pain of loss
ever exceeds the joy of what you had. plus the pain goes
away (really it does) and the memories last forever.

but i always look on the bright side. some people may call
that naive.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-06-18 16:37 [#01246673]
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i wasn't dumped...it was my fault...i didn't know what i had
while it lasted :(
im over it now (well i still think about it sometimes...),
but it took me ages...


 

offline Quernstone from Padova (Italy) on 2004-06-21 02:38 [#01249294]
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Was it your ex that you called to tell her you still loved
her? If so what was the result? I am curious as some people
do manage to pull things back together. I think in Nacmant's
and my case it is terminal. Fucking sad but when someone
says there is no place in their life for you anymore you
kind of get the impression there mind is made up.

Only one week to go of living together then it is over. I am
off down to London to see The Bug so that sould get my mind
of things nicely :o)


 

offline Quernstone from Padova (Italy) on 2004-06-21 02:39 [#01249295]
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When you says ages, how long?


 

offline nacmat on 2004-06-24 05:36 [#01253979]
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since we broke:

june:

5- we finished our relationship of 4years (and 2 months)
6- I call her at night, nice talking
7- morning. I feel like shit and call her like 3 times,
finally I go to her workplace and we talk, we must take some
distance
8-
9- she calls me at night, nice talking.
10-
11-
12-
13-
14-
15-
16- I talk to a friend of hers and its very bad for me, I
feel like shit again and I call her at night... so so, not
bad, not good, I notice she is miles away from my heart
already
17- I call her in the morning and in the afternoon. both are
nice calm down talking
18-
19-
20-
21-
22-
23-
24- today: its been a week since I last called her... I hope
I can be strong one more week now... i cannot call her cos
whe will feel I am all hang of her.... but I am really that
way... anyway I was able to spend a week without calling
her... so that gives me some hope in my recovering

anyway I still wish we were together again



 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-06-24 06:47 [#01254073]
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well, ages is a bit exaggerated...it was almost 4 years,
which is still quite a long time, at least it was at that
time...time is passing so fast these days, 4 years really
doesn't seem that long anymore.

nacmat, dunno what to say really...it sucks...the best thing
would be not to think about it, although that's
impossible...mybe try and convience yourself the
relationship wouldn't be the same since she apperantly
doesn't have same feelings for you anymore...although that's
impossible as well, since you still love her...it sucks and
that's that.


 

offline nacmat on 2004-06-24 07:38 [#01254202]
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I will gain some more strengh if I am able of not calling
her at all


 

offline Quernstone from Padova (Italy) on 2004-06-24 07:55 [#01254228]
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As much as I want to be around her I cannot bear to hear her
talk to her new man on the phone at night. The jealousy is
unbearable. I need her away from me. I never thought I woudl
say this. It is even harder as I love her so much still.


 

offline ChildrenTalking from United States on 2004-06-24 07:57 [#01254229]
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i knew you and i have our differences but i've sorta gone
through this and i hope you find calamity during this hectic
period in your life. "remember the good times instead of the
wish we could times"


 

offline nacmat on 2004-06-24 07:58 [#01254230]
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talking to me?


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-24 08:08 [#01254236]
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You hope he finds calamity? Son of a bitch!


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-06-24 08:13 [#01254247]
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I have a problem where I get really attached... I think I
just put everything into it, that I almost forget about
myself, and then when it's over I'm completely ruined...

I had a REALLY bad situation a couple years ago, and have
been single ever since... it took me a long time to get
myself under control and move on, but I still think of it
and feel sad about things sometimes... I have a fear of
getting involved with anyone now because of insecurities,
fear of hurt, etc... it's really sad, and I keep telling
myself to just get out of this rut, but I never do...

last night I almost cried in my bed because I just have so
many regrets I wish I could go back and fix you know... I
mean, I'm only 21 now, but still I've lost so many great
friendships and relationships in my time... ah well, such is
life right!


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-06-24 08:13 [#01254248]
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lol :)


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-06-24 08:18 [#01254252]
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whenever I listen to Fields of Gold by Sting, I almost cry!



 

offline Quernstone from Padova (Italy) on 2004-06-24 08:21 [#01254257]
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LOL!!


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2004-06-24 08:23 [#01254259]
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yeah its really a bad song isnt it


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2004-06-24 08:24 [#01254262]
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i sorry i such a bastards


 

offline Quernstone from Padova (Italy) on 2004-06-24 08:26 [#01254265]
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but a funny one too.


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-06-24 08:29 [#01254267]
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it's good! :)


 

offline Quernstone from Padova (Italy) on 2004-06-24 08:30 [#01254269]
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Nick Drake fucking rulez.


 

offline pOgO from behind your belly button fluff on 2004-06-24 08:37 [#01254280]
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Have a rose Mr Pink Hat =o)

And a kiss aswell !

=oX


 

offline nacmat on 2004-06-24 18:12 [#01255032]
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and tonight she called me to see how I was doing....

why?
doesnt she that hurts me more?


 

offline J Swift from United Kingdom on 2004-06-24 18:34 [#01255070]
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Yeah! I just had this overwhelming urge - So I called her
and it just came out, I was a mess(!)... I don't even know
why I said or did it, it wasn't an attempt to get back
together, because I kind of realise I need to get my
independance back, and I guess I realise I've got a lot of
growing I need to do on my own before I can be truely happy
I think.

I think it was kind of emotional for her - She suggested we
shouldn't speak for a while because it was a little wierd
for her being in a new relationship and everything, and
still having me in her head, I guess.

Anyway, the first 5 days since we properly split, I did feel
really depressed and lost - Just like you said, I can't deal
with her talking about her new guy over the phone - She
sounds like she's all caught up in this new romance, so
that's wierd - Feels our bond has suddenly been cut - It's
just chemical at that stage, I know that, there's no
fighting it... I've been in the grips of infatuation myself
too many times! I've forgotten about best friends, neglected
family, etc...

For the first 5(ish) days I couldn't even say "we're never
going to be together again" once, let alone 10 times!

But I've just stopped speaking to her since last friday, and
to be honest, things are starting to feel okay now - I'm
still missing her, and trying not to think about it, but I'm
eating and sleeping properly, not really depressed any more,
although first thing when I wake up often seems like a bit
of a low point.

I think when I'm single I can devote a lot more energy to
myself - I plan to stay single now, and not even look for
another girl until I'm where I want to be in life.

I've got this urge to go to London though! I think I might
try and move to North London sometime this year - Make a
fresh start... Just need to get myself together first!

I'm sure you'll feel much better when you get some space
from her! I really didn't think it would help, and I really
didn't want to cut her off for a second - But it does seem
to make thing


 

offline J Swift from United Kingdom on 2004-06-24 18:37 [#01255075]
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..s easier.

Nick Drake does rule - I've been listening to Nick Drake and
Alice In Chains a LOT over this last week.

These Mad Season songs "River of Deceit" and "I'm Over" have
really saved me this time!

Haven't relied on music this much since I was a messed up
teenager listening to Nirvana 6 hours a day!


 

offline Quernstone from Padova (Italy) on 2004-06-25 02:49 [#01255543]
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So true, so true. Do you know "music is my sanctuary" by
Gary Bartz? Its a fucking lush soul funk number. But the
title is so true, I have been listening to so much music for
solice. It is working and giving me a blanket with which to
protect myself. If onyl I coudl play the blues on a guitar I
would be digging that vein deep too.

I am sorry to hear you ex doesn;t want to talk with you.
[man hug] That is raw. Mine wants to stay in touch with me
but I know I need space for a long time so things can heal
for me. As of next Thursday that is it for an age.

What you said abotu chemical is so true. In fact that is
bloody perfect. I'll have to use that as a point of leverage
when talking to her next week.

TOnight sees me offf down to London (only for a few mad
nights) but I know that urge you are getting for a new
start. I am starting a business with my sister and a few
Polish guys. It coudl all go horribly wrong, but at least I
tried. And it is something I could never have done when my
ex was around...


 

offline J Swift from United Kingdom on 2004-06-26 08:51 [#01256876]
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Oh I'll check that song out! Cheers!

Yeah, I'm not sure where me and her stand - I know she wants
to keep in touch on the one hand, but I think we also
realise it's important to cut the ties properly this time,
otherwise things can get messy and blurred again over time.

That business sounds promising! It can give you a real boost
as soon as you're over the grieving and depressed phase, to
have to make a new start like that... I read this quote the
other day "creativity requires the ability to let go of
certainties" - And it's true - I think a relationship can
feel like a security blanket sometimes - Can make you feel
very content, a lot like what I used to rely on weed for,
and to be honest I haven't really done much with myself for
the last couple of years - Just sort of existed!

Oh yeah, hehe, I mentioned the chemical thing myself - She's
quite smart so she kind of knows this stuff anyway, but I
don't think it was what she wanted to hear at the time!


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2004-06-26 08:54 [#01256878]
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lets all kill ourrselves and be done


 

offline nacmat on 2004-06-27 04:08 [#01257594]
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I still wonder what moved her to call me last thursday
night

I mean, she knows that a call of hers can break all my
mental balance right now, and if she knows that, it would
have been responsible of her not to call me, but she did...
so does that mean that she cant really forget me? or its
just that she is selfish and doesnt really care how much
that call can hurt me?

I think she has loved me a lot, so that second chance is not
really possible in my mind...

I dont know... I havent lost faith in our relationship...
and I know how dangerous that is, cos probably I will suffer
a lot in the future when I finally realize that this is
really over....

oh shit... this is not easy at all

my deepest hope is that some day she will come back to me
saying that she loves me, and saying sorry for having made
me have such a hard time... I would so much accept that....
but I know that wont happen...

now its like 99% that she wants to move on in her life...
she wants to live a new life and she wants to find another
man... maybe not right now... but sooner or later she will
find one that she will love and then I will be forever
past.

so I must move on too, so that I can evolve and find another
love too whenever the time comes, cos if I keep hang on her
memories, I wont ever want to know another girl... and I
will suffer a lot the day I know about her being with
another man...

I know I am talking shit now, but I need so much to talk
about this... and I am a fraid I cannot abuse of my good old
friends all the time, they have listened to this hundreds of
times in the past 3 weeks....

I know this is a battle I have to win by myself... but right
now I cant find the strenght


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2004-06-27 04:13 [#01257600]
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if you feel like it, do talk, it helps


now its like 99% that she wants to move on in her life...
she wants to live a new life and she wants to find another
man... maybe not right now... but sooner or later she will
find one that she will love and then I will be forever
past.

so I must move on too, so that I can evolve and find
another
love too whenever the time comes, cos if I keep hang on her
memories, I wont ever want to know another girl... and I
will suffer a lot the day I know about her being with
another man...


thats very true actually...


 

offline nacmat on 2004-06-27 04:18 [#01257606]
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its true and I say it to myself all the time... but thats my
logic part of the brain saying so... but my heart still
resists and doesnt want to be logical

which is a shit


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2004-06-27 04:32 [#01257614]
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in my eyes the only thing that heals your wounds is time.

maybe you could see it this way, youve had a lot of good
times too, but its over now. this hurts, but time goes on...


 

offline nacmat on 2004-06-27 04:36 [#01257620]
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time... I know its all about time

but right now... I dont want time to heal me... I sadly
still believe that we were the perfect couple... I need to
take that out of my heart and mind


 

offline ChildrenTalking from United States on 2004-06-27 08:43 [#01257721]
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not calamity, i meant! composed sorry


 

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offline weltact from Taiwan on 2004-06-27 10:48 [#01257768]
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its so sad
but im one of of the few naive adults that still believes in
one love

but its like santa claus

uh..


 

offline weltact from Taiwan on 2004-06-28 00:52 [#01258334]
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come on
there r some nice azz girlies down here :)


 

offline weltact from Taiwan on 2004-06-28 02:26 [#01258358]
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aahhhh
just like listening to myself now

to be honest
something pulled me out of that thing
but i never really figured out what exactly it was
cuz it was a coctail of little things that happened
ive heard some info about her new relationship
ive been fucked instantly
than ive been told the fucking truth straight in my face by
a friend (thanks timon)
than i found some new job
than accidentally i met a couple of kul girls in town, in a
short period
then i was given advice from another friend that if shes
doing what shes doing now, and that a total ignore, shes not
the right one, ond never was
then i somehow realized that i have some much more important
things in my life to do now
wrote a couple of emails to her, when i felt really really
terrible

and finally, im free from that burden of feeling that uve
lost the most important thing u had in yr life

and it feels good to be neutral when reading this
that way i know its healed

and yes, ofcourse anything can happen if i meet her again at
some point of my life...but im not waiting for it, thats the
most important part..

it took me a year for that
but now im a totally new and upgraded version of me

to all the broken ones...build yrselves again, and become
wiser and stronger, with the knowledge u gained!

evolution!



 

offline weltact from Taiwan on 2004-06-28 02:40 [#01258359]
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i had a really strange and ultimately intense erotic
intercourse with a totally unknown girl on a transmediale
festival in berlin, when the bug act was on....it was really
gloomy and steamy..and hot...and the bass was just flowing
through our bodies...ahhh
bug really kicks some serious bass there..its so hard it
should be illegal

i never even asked her for her name
we didn even say to eachother one fuckin word
shell always stay in my mind as "the girl from berlin"
perfect!

and yea

bug kix!



 

offline weltact from Taiwan on 2004-06-28 03:00 [#01258388]
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and finally

what nick drake album should i start with


 

offline J Swift from United Kingdom on 2004-06-28 09:26 [#01258663]
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That's really good to hear actually! I think I'm starting to
realize that there's more important things I could be doing
right now... Lots of living to be done before I think about
settling down - I think that's why so many people get to 50
and realize they'd "settled" far too early.

I thought it'd be easier to recommend a Nick Drake album to
start with, but it's possibly the hardest question I've ever
had to think about...

Pink Moon is a good album to start with - But to be honest,
each album has so many strong tracks, and they've each got
their own character and style... Fire Leaves Left is
excellent - Maybe Time of No Reply is my favorite!? Just too
hard to pick one.


 

offline Quernstone from Padova (Italy) on 2004-06-29 07:54 [#01259630]
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ditto! I guess you coudl start chronologically, so go with
Five Leaves Left. He wrote it when he was only 20 when he
was here at Cambridge. it went unoticed for years. The
production is sweet as fuck without being cheesy or
anything.

I'm just praying for time to heal this shit up. I can;t wait
to be able to trawl this thread up from the XLT archives in
a few years and read it without welling up.

Time has told me
You came with the dawn
A soul with no footprint
A rose with no thorn.

Nick Drake


 

offline nacmat on 2004-06-29 08:04 [#01259638]
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reading this thread and posting in it helps me in some way


 

offline Quernstone from Padova (Italy) on 2004-06-29 08:14 [#01259647]
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It is helping me too Nacco. It's shitty we are all goign
through it at the same time by some freaky conincidence, but
it is nice to know there is empathy out there too when all
my mates are finding love or building their relationships.


We are nice guys and we can't be kept down.


 

offline nacmat on 2004-06-29 08:18 [#01259649]
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someday somebody.. some great girls will love us... and this
will be just memories... and we will be happy that all went
this way so that we could finally find our real love


 


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