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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2004-04-20 08:19 [#01152008]
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no no.. the 3d was shit. its the red/blue style 3d.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2004-04-20 08:25 [#01152018]
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"its the red/blue style 3d."
Yeah well, that doesn't automatically make 3d bad I suppose. I have a book full of 3D-images (also with those silly glasses). And some of them really blow my mind.
But ofcourse the Nes is much more limited. Low resolution, not much colors etc. But no matter how bad the 3d looks, I still think it's an interesting experiment :-)
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2004-04-20 08:49 [#01152050]
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w00t! He mailed me back :-)
Now it's really only a matter of days. I could very well be playing duckhunt again this weekend!
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-20 11:10 [#01152347]
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ninja gaiden for genesis sucks by the way. Your guy is twice as tall and twice as slow.
There's lots of NES's on ebay and they're pretty cheap. Some have the NES flaw fixed (some strip of metal or something that bends over time or something)
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-20 11:12 [#01152352]
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Just buy used games on ebay too. Mine works great. Never blow in the games. Instead brush the metal inside hard with qtips and rubbing alchohol. You can see all the black dirt come off. (the games have warnings not to do this... probably because they want you to buy a game doctor thing? It works great though)
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-20 11:15 [#01152354]
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the system "virtual boy" was pretty wicked actually. It really put you in a cute otherworldly 3-dish zone... since the outside world is completely blocked away when you stick your head in the thing. It was just like gameboy games, only 3-d. I should get one of those again.
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2004-04-20 11:20 [#01152373]
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I had the Power Glove. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . It sucked.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-04-20 11:23 [#01152379]
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you mean that system where the only colors were red and black?
it was a good concept, but didn't it give people headaches or brain cancer or something?
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2004-04-20 11:47 [#01152426]
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"Just buy used games on ebay too."
Yes. I was planning on doing just that. Most nes games are so cheap by now."
"Instead brush the metal inside hard with qtips and rubbing alchohol."
Hm... I already clean my SNES-cartridges with qtips. But in combination with rubbing alcohol it works even better? I should get me a bottle of that. Can you get it at a pharmacist or something?
There should also be a way to clean the contacts inside the NES & SNES methinks. They probably get just as dirty as the cartridges themselves. But I think all the pins would just tear the cotton on a qtip apart :-/
The virtual boy is a great system! I love the hardware. It's just a shame that all the games released for it are so arcade-style. All of them are short games, the goal is usually to get lots of points. The only adventure/platform game is Wario Land, but that one is way too short. Red Alarm is pretty cool as well. At first I was very excited about it "It's just like Starfox! Wow!". But after a while I found it's not really anywhere near as good as Starfox :-/ Oh well.
The VB itself remains a really nice gadget though :-) With more games like Wario Land I'm sure it would have been more succesful. The 3D works really wonderfully. The opening sequence of Wario Land is jawdropping. The fence in Mario Tennis also looks good enough to touch .. it's all very cool :-)
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2004-04-20 11:54 [#01152434]
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"it was a good concept, but didn't it give people headaches or brain cancer or something?"
Headaches yes. But probably because lazy people didn't adjust the focus-slide on the VB precise enough. You have to experiment with it a little bit until the image sort of *feels* comfortable... when you've focussed it right it shouldn't cause any headaches at all.
And it can be bad for the eyes. Because you're constantly focussing on something a few centimeters in front of your eyes... it strains the muscles that focusses the eye or something. And eventually they strain so much that your eye can't properly focus on things far away anymore.
All of this can be avoided by taking the recommended brakes though :-) Every 15 minutes just look away from the Virtual Boy for a couple of seconds and everything will be just fine.
Also, the shoulderbuttons are the most comfortable I've ever seen on any nintendo-controller! They're actually on the bottom of the controller... it's great! It feels so much more natural than actually placing them on the "shoulder" of the controller like with the snes/n64/gamecube.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-20 11:55 [#01152436]
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All this retro games talk has made me re-order my room. The Nes is still out, but the snes has gone into storage and the Megadrive has replaced it. Hmm, now, what to play?
MK 1-3, Sonic 1/2. Hellfire, Gynoug, Mercs or Smash TV?
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2004-04-24 06:38 [#01158856]
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Yay! My NES came yesterday :-)
Innitially it had the same problem Ophecks described: the tray wouldn't stay down. But I managed to fix that. (The add already managed that this NES had been modded to also play USA-games. But it was obviously done rather clumsily. Screws weren't tightened all the way, and the cartridge-tray was actually jammed by that green print-card or whatover those things are called in english. So it was impossible for the tray to stay down. He might have mentioned that on eBay! He's not getting any positive feedback from me, that's for sure :-p). But I opened it all up, and carefully put it back together properly. And now it works pretty good. The games work most of the time, altough sometimes you still have to blow. I think I've seen new 72-pin connectors being sold on eBay from time to time... I'd really like one of those. That would make my NES pretty much like new again :-)
It was such a blast to play super mario bros again! Wow. It made me feel like I was 8 years old again... playing it for the very first time, with the entire family crowded around the television to witness the wonder of videogames :-) Sweet memories indeed...
This game is such a classic. Even to this very day it's still every bit as fun and playable as I remembered it to be!
The 3D-effect in Rad Racer was kind of dissapointing like several people mentioned in this thread. I think they overdid it or something. Even with the glasses on you're still seeing things double. The trick to creating 3D-images is to give each eye a slightly different view. But the 2 images in Rad Racer are so far apart. The cloud the left-eye sees is at least 5 cm's away from the cloud meant for the right-eye... if you know what I mean.
Without the 3D-images turned on, it's still a good game though. Even though I'm not good at it all :-p I keep running out of time. I haven't played Castlevania very much yet. But I will soon! The 1st two levels were very promising :-)
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2004-04-24 08:19 [#01158904]
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I'd pay 25 dollars to watch a video of surrounded working on his NES.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-04-24 08:44 [#01158926]
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''it was such a blast to play super mario bros again! Wow. It
made me feel like I was 8 years old again... playing it for
the very first time, with the entire family crowded around the television to witness the wonder of videogames :-)''
Same with me. I was like 4 or 5, and my aunt hooked it up for me, but only after about 2 hours of struggle. Then she got the first turn and kept falling down the first pit on the first level. You don't forget stuff like that.
Apparently the freakin' thing cost like 400 dollars at the time, too! 8 bits of insane mind blowing super power, that's what it was.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2004-04-24 11:22 [#01159040]
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"I'd pay 25 dollars to watch a video of surrounded working on his NES."
Ha! Lol! If only more people felt that way... I could quit my dayjob and start playing with my NES for a living.
But the sad truth is, ofcourse, that I don't even have a camera. :-( Sorry Pomme ;-)
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2004-04-24 11:30 [#01159047]
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"Then she got the first turn and kept falling down the first pit on the first level. You don't forget stuff like that."
Hehe... yeah you really don't :-) My parents couldn't play it al all either. Nor could my grandma. I remember she just stood there completely paralysed as the very first goomba approached her. All of us were shouting: "Jump! Jump! Step on it!" And she totally panicked and ended up running toward and into the goomba ;-)
They (my grandparents and parents) loved watching us play though. They really got into it haha. In particular level 2-3 freaked them out. What with all the jumping fish and such.
"Look out!" "Oh god, you're going to get hit!" "Be careful!"
"NO! DON'T JUMP! The fish will hit you!" :-D
"8 bits of insane mind blowing super power, that's what it was. "
True. Didn't they have the "now you're playing with power" slogan back then? It was an awesome time to be a nintendo-fanboy. You never needed to worry about the future. If the games were going to be good, if they would loose the console-wars etc. There were no console-wars, and everything they released was fantastic! (it felt like that anyway ;-)).
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-04-24 11:36 [#01159055]
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how about strider? anyone here a fan?
that next to last battle (with your boss) is so friggin' hard.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-04-24 11:39 [#01159059]
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know what was a great game.. StarTropics
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-04-24 11:43 [#01159061]
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yeah, it was okay. i wish there had been a bit more freedom though between levels. i won't put it above zelda, but it's solid.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-04-24 11:49 [#01159063]
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Vice: Project Doom was a cool underrated action game, reminded me of Ninja Gaiden. Even had some fancy cutscenes between levels. It was released near the end of the NES' lifespan so nobody gave a shit. It would have been a classic.
Little Nemo- The Dream Master, Monster in My Pocket, Monster Party, Journey to Sililus, Astyanax, Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers, Little Mermaid (fer real)... shit, so many hidden gems! I'd say just buy any NES game you see, ever. They're like 2 bucks a pop, now, don't have much to lose.
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wimp
on 2004-04-24 12:01 [#01159072]
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ign.com's list of the Top 100 Games
Pretty damn good list too. Respect.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2004-04-24 12:58 [#01159116]
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"I'd say just buy any NES game you see, ever"
yes, there are only a couple of NES games that i want so badly I'm going to specificly try and hunt them down. For the rest I think I'm just going to buy all the cheap ones I find at fleamarkets and eBay-bargains and places like that.
Castlevania is very very tough! It's a good thing you warned me about it beforehand. I keep getting stuck in a stage where there are some sort of eagles flying over me who drop little beast (dogs? wolves?) to the ground. Those beasts are just too damn quick. When I try to hit them they just jump to avoid the whip. + the eagles just keep dropping more and more until those beasts swarm all over the screen and kill me :-(
Since I don't have a manual for it do you think you could help me out with this: what does it mean when you pick up a little square with II in it? I've also seen them with III. But I'm not really sure what they do when you pick 'em up.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-04-24 14:01 [#01159172]
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The ''II'' and ''III'' mean you can fire 2 or 3 special weapons (axe, holy water, knife) in a row, it's like rapid fire. Invaluable against the later bosses, not as useful against regular enemies.
It's a tough game, I can't beat it without save states. In the later levels, enemies take off 4 or 5 bars of health in one hit, it's totally insane. If you get hit once, you might as well kiss your butt goodbye. And no save states with the real thing!
Castlevania 2 is kind of easy... if you know what to do. Without an FAQ or guide, I don't think I could have beat that game. The ''hints'' the idiot villagers give you are translated in a way that they make NO SENSE AT ALL. Figuring out what to do is just totally random. How the heck am I supposed to know I have to crouch by the water for 5 seconds and press B?
3 is just incredible.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2004-04-25 09:50 [#01159838]
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" it's like rapid fire."
Thanks! That helps alot. It's a shame the NES didn't have more buttons... it feels a little awkward to press up plus b to use the special weapons. It becomes a nightmare when you try to use them on a staircase :-/
I reached the Monster of Frankenstein (i think it was) yesterday. But that fight was just insane. In particular the other enemy in that room that kept throwing stuff at me. After a couple of tries I felt like breaking the controller in half :-p So I figured that was a good time to turn of the nes and do something else lol.
Castlevania 2 has lots of rpg-elements doesn't it? I wonder if I'd still be able to get into it... I don't really like rpg's that are too dated. What I appreciate about the NES most of all is the instant playability. No option-screens, no stats, no upgrades... haha. Just press start on the title screen and go.
But if it's an actiongame with some rpg-elements, I might still be able to enjoy it though. Shame about the translation.
I didn't even know a Castlevania 3 was ever released for NES. Not in europe that's for sure!
I beat Super Mario Bros this morning. Level 8-3 is a nightmare! All those hammer bros.... you don't stand a chance if you can't throw fireballs. I had forgotten all about the 2nd quest after you beat the game. It's a shame you can't save the fact that you beat it after you turn off the nes ;-) Now if I wanna try the 2nd quest again I have to beat the 1st one again. Oh well. It's still a great game though. So much is in it! There must be thousands (if not millions) of games out there that were inspired by SMB in one way or the other.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-25 09:56 [#01159841]
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"3 is just incredible"
My real world copy seems to of given up the ghost (Why this game Lord, why? You could have taken Hook or Turtles, or even Solar Jetman...;-( ), my GBA emulator doesn't run it, so I currently have to play that on the PC.
Surrounded: Yep it got a Europe release- I think it was pretty late in the system's life though (1992)... I found my copy brand new for £5.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2004-04-25 10:08 [#01159853]
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"Yep it got a Europe release"
Well... I stand corrected. Maybe I already had my SNES by then, that would explain why I never noticed it.
If I ever see it I'll get it :-)
Alot of eBay-sellers are bastards who charge way too much though! About half the NES-games I see there are advertised as: "Rare!" "A must for every NES owner!", and then they ask some ridiculously high starting bid (and usually it will only be the cartridge itself... no box, no manual). I'm hoping I'll find lots of cheaper ones on fleamarkets and 2nd hand stores.
"or even Solar Jetman."
Ugh... that game sucked! Well no... it was pretty good actually, but way too damn hard. I could spend hours just trying to bring some crystal from one place to another. The passwords were too long and confusing too. I so often fucked up when writing them down... so they wouldn't work when I entered them the next time. So many frustrations came from that game. I really wanted to like it though. Because I had been saving up for months to be able to buy a new game... and it would take me several more months before I could afford another. I don't think I ever made it past the 3rd planet... no matter how many times I played it. What a nightmare.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-25 10:38 [#01159863]
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RE: Solar Jetman. I've never completed it, but I've gotten well over half way through. It's a massive game and has an obscene amount of hidden stuff (I'm sure there are at least as many hidden worlds as "real" ones in it). I liked the zany sense of humour in it as well.
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DeLtoiD
from Ontario on 2004-04-25 16:31 [#01160110]
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did anyone get far in a boy and his blob????
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DeLtoiD
from Ontario on 2004-04-25 16:31 [#01160111]
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to be quite honest a boy and his blob pissed me off soooo much...
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2004-04-27 12:55 [#01162942]
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Hey guys help me out. I bid on a game called Low G Man... but I just realised it's not the game I was looking for at all :-s
I remember a long long time ago I played a really cool game at a friend's house. And it also had to do with gravity in some way. There was one level where gravity was turned around and you could walk on the ceiling, and jumps were reversed etc. I was so impressed by it at the time :-)
Somehow for all those years I was sure it was called Low G Man, so i was quite pleased I found a cheap copy of it. But I just looked up some screenshots of Low G Man... and it's not the game I was looking for at all. The game I remember looked rather cartoony. The hero was a very typical "hero" type. Huge chin, tough grin... etc. Does anyone know what game I'm talking about?
Oh and I won the auction even, lol! So is this Low G Man a good game? The screenshots looked pretty decent I guess.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2004-04-27 13:03 [#01162953]
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"but I've gotten well over half way through."
I'm very impressed you got that far!
"I'm sure there are at least as many hidden worlds as "real" ones in it"
Yeah, even I managed to find 2 or 3 hidden levels. And also some bonusgames where you could collect lots of diamonds. Lots of secrets are always a good thing :-)
Before I bought it, I played with the game in the store for a bit. And was very impressed. For that time, the premise of discovering lots of different (huge) planets was very exciting indeed. And I liked how you could also exit your ship and fly around as a tiny astronaut. The animations on the ship itself (as it rotated) were amazing as well. So all in all I was blown away by it. It seemed like a super-detailed game about space-exploration.
But sadly, I never did manage to get the hang of it. The sense of gravity was a little too detailed for me I guess. I try to aim at an enemy... but the ship still has some momentum so I keep sliding forward and crash into a wall. It's even worse when you're dragging something with that tractorbeam.
I suppose the control-system is something you have to get a feel for... which I never did. Maybe I was still too young for it. Or maybe I would still keep crashing into every wall ;-)
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2004-04-27 13:06 [#01162958]
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A boy and his blob... I remember The official dutch nintendo magazine had a huge coverstory about that game once. It looked very nice... but I never actually got to play it. It sounds like it should be avoided :-p
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-27 13:08 [#01162962]
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"Rad Gravity"?
Sounds like it... and the main character is as you described.
Low-G man is poo. I had it and it's one of the few NES games I've ever sold.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2004-04-27 13:19 [#01162977]
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""Rad Gravity"?"
YES!! Thank YOU! :-D
This is definitely the game I remember :-)
You're a great man. It's a good thing you know so much about 8bit videogames :-p
And about Low-G Man... ehr... damn :-( Well it's a good thing it wasn't expensive, haha. Looks like a game I'll be selling away pretty soon. I guess it wasn't very smart of me to place a bid before looking up some screenshots :-p I must have had those two titles mixed up somehow. Something I read in an old magazine maybe. Ohwell.
*goes off to see if Rad Gravity is being sold anywhere*
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-27 13:31 [#01163006]
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Low G Man was so bad it was actually reviewed by SomethingAwful.com a while back :)
I bought it because it was cheap (I was only about 10 at the time) and quickly realised (after completing it in about 2 days of halfhearted play) that I needed to swop it "for keeps" with someone... I forget what I got for it in the end, but whatever it was, it was better than that.
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-04-27 13:33 [#01163007]
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i don't know what a NES is, and i don't carre.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-27 13:40 [#01163013]
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Nintendo Entertainment System.
Haven't seen you round much lately. Things ok?
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