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can somebody summarize this thread in 5-10 words? thanks. |
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anyway, socialism is great, being an anarchist, any system where the wealth isnt concentrated into a small ruling class must be great. A system where you dont have to sell yourself into miser in order to live and have the opportunity to fulfil one's self must be good. *Goes back to reading Proudhon* |
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No, my insults towards you follow on from your wanking over NoIdeaWhatImTalking's posts or from you just being the tit that you are. I have not resorted to insults as a response to a rational point that has been raised. |
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I've got another word for pussy but I better not use it ;-). |
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ChildrenTalking and promo type shit. |
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yeah, it's promo. |
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>can somebody summarize this thread in 5-10 words? >thanks. polarised views complex emotive issue chaos misunderstandings reality tunnels shame |
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Ok I'll give you that one. That was quite funny. |
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My explaination was less wordy and more true. |
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No its definitely you because I'm basically stairing at it in your avatar all the time. Lol. |
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the irony of all this its that its 2 males who live technically in the same country with strong opposing views. i want to thank promo for at least showing an american as myself and the rest in this public forum that not all europeans are such simpletons when it comes to their political beliefs. |
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You've got another word for pussy because you are staring at my avatar? I wasn't referring to your avatar just incase you are too stupid to realise. |
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Sorry socialism these days is just a mask for neo-liberialism. The winning spanish political party is pretty fucking far from communism.... |
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"i want to thank promo for...showing...that not all europeans are such simpletons when it comes to their political beliefs." Like all those Spaniards right? Oops. Insensitive. I would really just like you to answer one simple question. How does the war against Iraq and Spain's continued involvement fight terror? |
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liberialism=liberalism |
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we can talk more about this tommorow. the funny thing is i hold no grudges. this is what politics is all about, debate. as such i respect all of your views even if theres profanity thrown at each other from time 2 time i really enjoyed the discussion today. thank you all. peace. |
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>My explaination was less wordy and more true. Possibly ... It is a 'shame' though ... there is so much info and spin and hype out there that intelligent* people can come to such different conclusions about things. We all pick up on the things the reinforce our views, and ignore the things that dont, accross the whole spectrum of views. Its a big problem. * - this is an IDM board, after all. |
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peace |
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Sharp. *Promo now blushes* Here is a more enjoyable response though: I'm right and the others are wrong. :D |
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Good time to cut out (and pretend you didn't read my question.) I'll repeat it again, maybe someone else can answer, as I highly doubt that you can. "How does the war against Iraq and Spain's continued involvement fight terror? |
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Man, the bias and unintelligence in this thread is just pathetic. Do you people do one ounce of research before you cough out all this bullshit? Seriously, both sides of the argument are looking like nothing more than children slinging various ad hominem attacks back and forth in some pathetic political penis waving party. What misinformation am I talking about? Here's an example: Someone posted earlier that the U.S. wasn't involved in WWII until Pearl Harbor was bombed. Guess what? The US was setting an embargo to damage Japan because of Japan's offensives against Manchuria. Japan's bombing of Pearl Harbor was originally provoked by the US. Also, the clear lack of being able to see both sides of the argument here is pathetic. LORL SPAIN NEEDS TO STEP UP AND STOP TAKING THIS SHIT FROM TERRORISTS AND NOT LET IT AFFECT THEIR LIFESTYLES. LORL THE US NEEDS TO LEAVE IRAQ ALONE AND WORK IT OUT DIPLOMATICALLY BECAUSE WAR IS NEVAR THE ANSWER. Seriously, the hypocrisy here is fucking sad. Oh and spatchock: [i]anyway, socialism is great, being an anarchist, any system where the wealth isnt concentrated into a small ruling class must be great. A system where you dont have to sell yourself into miser in order to live and have the opportunity to fulfil one's self must be good. [/i] Please explain to me how in ANY POSSIBLE MANNER anarchy can be successful. PS: Where's the incentive to succeed in staunch socialism? |
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don't start all this socialism is better than us shit. . the us is the strongest economy in the world preciously becuase we are not socialist... the reason norway and canada are more socialist is simple. IT fucking cold! you wouldn't want a bunch of people freezing to death... here the bums live like kings...... jesus the us is so bad... but theres not a person alive in haiti who sell his soul to live like the poorest person in the whole us. no one starves to death in the us... obesity here is huge among the poor... |
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"no one starves to death in the us" HA! |
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if you dont live there then why make a big fuss? They now have what they voted for. Let them debate and deal with it. I dont understand the point of all this. Although 2% of this thread has been an interesting read. It's just turning into people pissing on each other and its starting to smell. |
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I voted psoe and that was my vote as I decided it months ago I didnt vote that for fear |
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"no one starves to death in the us... obesity here is huge among the poor... " so they eat to death? |
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instead of all the bickering in this thread, we should take this time to all agree on the perfect governing style; the one, true, fair socio-economic theory; and a foriegn policy that doesn't either allow one's nation to be easily taken over, or tread on other nation's rights. go! p.s. aperson i mentioned the us's pre-pearl harbor involvement in WWII, like the second post after it was mentioned. |
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"the us is the strongest economy in the world preciously becuase we are not socialist... " this made me laugh, and not just because you said preciously instead of precisely "the reason norway and canada are more socialist is simple. IT fucking cold! you wouldn't want a bunch of people freezing to death... " This is just classic. I think this explains why Mexico is full blown flee trade laissez faire, the U.S. has some social safety nets, canada is socialist, and the north pole is full blown communist! (you wouldn't want a bunch of elves freezing to death) |
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>the us is the strongest economy in the world [precisely] >becuase we are not socialist... I'd argue it is a strong economy because a load of settlers from europe colonised a huge country with massive natural resources. You could almost have governed it by rolling dice and still come out with a strong economy. More seriously: all your strongest economic sectors (aerospace, telecoms, electonics, arms) have benefitted massively from state investment .... the aren't as free as they're made out to be |
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>instead of all the bickering in this thread, we should take >this time to all agree on the perfect governing style; the >one, true, fair socio-economic theory; and a foriegn policy >that doesn't either allow one's nation to be easily taken >over, or tread on other nation's rights. ok heres one for starters: when a political party receives money from a corporation, they should have to wear their 'sponsors' names on their clothes, in the same way that sportpeople do. The size of the name/logo should be proportional to the amount of money donated. Hence Bush would have 'texaco' emblazoned accross the chest of his suit, 'exxon' down one arm, 'enron' printed accross his forehead, 'haliburton' down the other arm, etc. |
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I fully support this idea. God knows all of our (US) candidates for 2004 would be in multilayered clothes of advertisements. |
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Oh and if you all want some actual evidence since you idiots can't seem to do much more than theorize and ostracise... The Socialist Party had 43% of the vote The PP had 38% In the 3 days before the election the Polls for the PP dropped by an astounding 10% That's food for thought... |
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i also support this idea. if you will, please clarify how you wish to enforce this proposal. i was also for the campaign finance bill... however, it seems to've failed miserably in it's first trial run, as now people within the political parties set up secret non-profit organizations to filter their money through, and finance all their ad campaigns... so, in effect the 'soft money' didn't go away at all, it just became more underground and harder to track. all politics/politicians are corrupt to the core. *seppuku* |
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"I voted for psoe and that was my vote as I decided it months ago" Yeah, but you're a leftie, so whats knew? |
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this is the funniest thread ever. bunch of cockjockeys. thanks for an enjoyable read! |
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agreed :D |
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I think Spain made the right choice. Now Hopefully people in the US will make the right choice and vote Bush out in November. I think Bush did the right thing by helping Iraq, but he went about it completely wrong, and why is he giving 80 billion $ for aid when people here are broke and jobless? |
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This thread actually made me cry. |
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your avatar has that effect on me. |
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kill lefties i mean kill people who use the term leftie |
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i'm not going to bother to read through all this because i know it'll just frustrate the fuck out of me... i'd just like to say, and i hope this has been pointed out umpteen times already... i noticed that it sort of was in the first 60 comments... Spain's ruling party will probably be about as left as the governments of Canada, Germany, Sweden (well probably less than Sweden, but the point is that none of these countries have particularly unstable governments, particularly when you compare theirs' to the AMERICAN government), France, etc. this post was started out of the sheer miseducated ignorance of someone who is forcefed ideology every goddamn day of their life |
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This thread is fucking apalling. |
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what does apalling mean? |
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This thread made baby jesus cry :( |
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It means I should pay attention to my typing. I actually meant appalling. This thread should not exist. |
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OMG SPAINS IS COMMONIST NOW :( |
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What is Spain going to do when they keep bombing them? |
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we will vote mel gibson for president |
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that's actually a good plan |
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politics and religion will kill us all at the end. especially religion. |
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