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offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2003-07-11 07:32 [#00774241]
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never heard of him. do you know which club they signed him
from?

the other one: you mean kevin hofland :D he's quite good but
he's just coming back from a disastrous injury which kept
him sidelined for basically the whole season. wait and see
if he's lost his talent in the process :|


 

offline nobsmuggler from silly mid-off on 2003-07-11 07:37 [#00774246]
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dont know which club he came from a swiss one i think

sorry kevin i got him mixed with matt holand irish player


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2003-07-11 07:57 [#00774254]
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i like marquez very much, you will have a strong defense
with puyol-marquez.
Real Madrid is adviced...


 

offline nacmat on 2003-07-19 05:22 [#00785978]
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ronaldinho goes to Barça!


 

offline nobsmuggler from silly mid-off on 2003-07-19 05:26 [#00785985]
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man u gave a 6pm (gmt) deadline for the signing


 

offline nacmat on 2003-07-19 05:27 [#00785988]
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what do you mean?


 

offline nobsmuggler from silly mid-off on 2003-07-19 06:46 [#00786017]
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i think theyt have had enough of being fcked about by
ronnies agent and himself


 

offline bill_hicks from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-07-19 09:09 [#00786099]
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Any of you guys want mikel arteta? You're welcome to him.
Mono-browed twat.


 

offline nacmat on 2003-07-19 18:43 [#00786731]
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I think he is a good player... why?


 

offline nacmat on 2003-07-20 05:01 [#00787118]
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overmars....kluivert....cuaresma
..............ronaldinho.................
.......cocu...............xavi............
¿?.........marquez......¿?.....puyol
.................rustu......................


 

offline merg from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2003-07-21 05:27 [#00788060]
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LOL, I won't start, I promise...!

(Two words...painful....rejection) ;-)


 

offline nobsmuggler from silly mid-off on 2003-07-21 13:36 [#00788540]
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i love arsenal not man u
dont tar my good name


 

offline merg from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2003-07-22 02:26 [#00789109]
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Then you're a fine upstanding gent by me! :-)

P.S. I'm wearing Arsenal socks today...don't ask! :-)


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-07-27 16:19 [#00795827]
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the Barcelona-Juventus tilt just ended... Barca won on
penalty kicks... Juve has got to make some personnel moves
if they want to be competitive with the big teams this
year... Trezeguet played like shit again... i haven't seen
him play well in a long time... they need to deal him away
and free up some room for a marquee forward... del piero
can't do it on his own... and even though Di Vaio did come
through with 2 clutch goals in under 90 seconds at the end
of the game to tie it up... i don't think he's the man to
replace trezeguet... i miss the days of Inzaghi-Del Piero...
when one wasn't scoring... the other was...


 

offline nacmat on 2003-07-27 18:26 [#00795938]
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and what about barcelona?


 

offline merg from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2003-07-28 01:29 [#00796234]
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What the hell is a clutch goal??


 

offline nobsmuggler from silly mid-off on 2003-07-28 01:33 [#00796237]
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im wearing a 1972 AFC home shirt

whats the keeper we just bought from brussia like, arsen
says hes brilliant whats you thoughts?


 

offline merg from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2003-07-28 02:10 [#00796244]
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Bit of confusion...I know it seems from that post that I'm a
Gooner, but in fact I'm a Mighty RED! :-)

(Hence me saying that you were upstanding, for NOT liking
Manure, rather than liking the Arse...see?) :-)


 

offline nobsmuggler from silly mid-off on 2003-07-28 04:33 [#00796304]
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i know from the liverpool attacker/winger post i just like
broadcastin about my team

are you from germany?


 

offline nacmat on 2003-07-28 04:35 [#00796305]
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yesterday in boston a match took place:

juve - barça

with barça three new players did a good job: quaresma,
ronaldinho and rustu

woofer: who was new with juve?
did you see it?

2-2 btw


 

offline nobsmuggler from silly mid-off on 2003-07-28 04:37 [#00796308]
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barca vs man u in 7 days should be good


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2003-07-28 07:52 [#00796474]
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great friendly match yesterday! barça is really competitive
this season, we're all lucky who Barça will not be in the
next champion's league...
Rustu was great with penalties!

the new juventus players are:

Legrottaglie: (he made the error in the 1st goal) he's a
young promise

Miccoli: he has good feet, good shoot, good free kicks,
etc... he should be the del piero substitute for next year.
Another young promise.

Appiah: He should be an african Davids for the midfield...
we'll see...



 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2003-07-28 07:55 [#00796478]
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Juve need another good defensor and a good midfield (I like
Fiore from Lazio), imo.

About attack, I don't like Zalayeta very much, but
Trezeguet, Del Piero, Di Vaio and especially Miccoli are
great players.
Listen me... give a special attention to Miccoli, between
some month he could be very famous in Europe...



 

offline Key_Secret from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-07-28 08:00 [#00796487]
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football is a great sport! I haven't played it for over a
mounth!!! =/
one of my fav activities during the summer though :)


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2003-07-28 09:12 [#00796674]
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i play soccer (5 vs 5) with friends and i'm goalkeeper ;)



 

offline Key_Secret from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-07-28 09:15 [#00796678]
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yes! kinda like what we do to... but usually we're just 3 +
3 players. but we play on a real small soccerfield... so
it's ok :) and real fun! :)


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2003-07-28 09:42 [#00796727]
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cool, it should be really funny 3 vs 3... i remember the
nike's spot on tv


 

offline nacmat on 2003-07-28 19:10 [#00797590]
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I play 7 vs 7


 

offline nacmat on 2003-07-29 04:50 [#00797832]
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Barcelona kicks it back into gear

After blown lead, it takes extra push to top Juventus

By John Powers, Globe Staff, 7/28/2003

OXBOROUGH -- It was just a soccer exhibition on a steamy
Sunday afternoon in a place that neither club's supporters
had ever heard of (a borough of foxes?). FC Barcelona and
Juventus were rusty, jet-lagged, and still trying to sort
out starters from reserves for their upcoming seasons. But
when the clock approached 90 minutes yesterday before a
crowd of 30,912, the big-match vibes kicked in.



''Of course, you cannot win a big prize over here,'' mused
Barca coach Frank Rijkaard, after his squad edged its Turin
rivals, 6-5, on penalty kicks after blowing a two-goal lead
in the final five minutes of regulation. ''But big clubs
like Juventus and Barcelona always have to play well.''

Especially Barca, which is coming off a wretched sixth-place
finish in the Spanish league and needs to show its 100,000
club members and the rest of Catalunya that the
''Blaugrana'' are back in the game.

''We can be satisfied, because we didn't do a lot of work
until now,'' said Rijkaard, who was making his debut as the
club's third coach since last winter after barely a week of
training. ''It was our first game against a big club.''

And when it was best 11 against best 11 in the first half,
Barca dominated, scoring a pair of goals -- both by striker
Javier Saviola -- against a Juve team that appeared to be
sleepwalking. ''The players weren't sharp,'' conceded coach
Marcello Lippi, whose players had six weeks off after they
lost to AC Milan in the European Champions' League final.
''They gave away too many balls.''

Barca's attacking style, which Rijkaard is stressing, had
much to do with that. The first goal, in the 28th minute on
a penalty, came after defender Nicola Legrottaglie tackled
Saviola from behind in the penalty area. The second, off a
corner kick in the 41st, was a header from an unmarked
Saviola after keeper Gianluigi Buffon had made a one


 

offline nacmat on 2003-07-29 04:51 [#00797834]
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The second, off a corner kick in the 41st, was a header from
an unmarked Saviola after keeper Gianluigi Buffon had made a
one-handed save off Patrick Andersson.

In between, Barca keeper Rustu Recber, Turkey's World Cup
star and one of the club's key offseason pickups, made two
marvelous saves within seconds, busting up David Trezeguet's
breakaway and thwarting Alessandro Del Piero's point-blank
blast.

Once both clubs went liberally to their benches in the final
half hour (with Brazilian star Ronaldinho making his
Barcelona debut), Juventus came alive, just as it did last
spring, when the ''bianconeri'' knocked Barcelona out of the
Champions' League quarterfinals in overtime while playing a
man down in Barca's own stadium.

This time, the Italian champions stung Rijkaard's reserves
(including backup keeper Victor Valdes) with goals in the
86th and 87th minutes, with Fabrizio Miccoli sending in
Marco Di Vaio for the first and dashing in himself for the
second.

So they went directly to a shootout (only in America would
they skip overtime), and after Buffon and Valdes each
blocked one kick, Ronaldinho walked to the spot as fifth man
up for Barca, knowing that a miss would make Juve winners.

''I wasn't nervous at all,'' said the $29 million man, who
boomed the ball past Buffon to keep Barca alive. ''I was
just excited. It was a thrill to put on the uniform for the
first time.''

When Valdes blocked Gianluca Pessotto's bid and Carles Puyol
converted with a far-corner skimmer, the Catalans walked off
winners. But Juventus, which figures to be playing from now
until late May, was already thinking about next weekend's
Italian Super Cup showdown with AC Milan at Giants Stadium.

''Barcelona and Manchester United are great teams,'' said
Lippi, whose squad plays Man U in the Meadowlands Thursday.
''But the match that will count is Milan. Because if we win,
that provides the first trophy of the season.''

This story ran on page D1 of the Boston Globe on 7/28/2003.
© Copyright


 

offline nacmat on 2003-07-29 04:53 [#00797835]
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Satisfaction guaranteed

Rare poor stretch prompts changes for FC Barcelona

By John Powers, Globe Staff, 7/27/2003

ARCELONA -- When he heard about the ''gira yankee,'' his
club's preseason tour of the Northeast Corridor, Marc
Overmars thought it sounded like an enjoyable summer junket
with a few fun friendlies along the way. ''Who are we
playing?'' he inquired. How about Juventus, AC Milan, and
Manchester United, three of Europe's top four soccer teams.
Why not bring the pain right away? ''For me, I like it,''
says the Dutch forward, whose FC Barcelona teammates take on
Juventus's zebra-striped legions this afternoon in a marquee
exhibition at Gillette Stadium. ''You play against big
teams, you cannot afford to step down even a little bit.''



After a nightmarish season -- a sorry sixth place in the
Spanish league and a revolution at the top -- the club is
eager to show that Barca is back, with a new president (Joan
Laporta), a new board, a new coach (Frank Rijkaard), and a
bunch of new players, most notably Ronaldinho, the Brazilian
star whom Barcelona snookered away from Manchester United
last week for close to $29 million.

''Barca must aspire to everything,'' says captain Luis
Enrique, who is convinced the revamped roster can win its
accustomed domestic and international hardware once again.
''We can win the titles.''

Barca has always counted on a cornucopia of cups. Besides
the 1992 European Champions' trophy, its award case boasts
four Cup Winners' Cups, three UEFA Cups, 16 Spanish league
titles (six of them in the '90s), and two dozen league
cups.

But after four rough years, the pride of Catalunya barely
qualified for next season's European competition, grabbing
the last Spanish place in the second-tier tournament for
also-rans. ''We didn't make the Champions League,'' says
Overmars. ''That is not possible.''

Or acceptable. For the ''Blaugrana,'' whose hallmark blue
and claret jerseys go back more than a century, the
Champions League is


 

offline nacmat on 2003-07-29 04:54 [#00797836]
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the Champions League is the only place they belong,
alongside blood rivals Real Madrid.

For the better part of the last three decades, Barcelona has
been Europe's glamour team, a showcase for international
stars such as Argentina's Diego Maradona, the Netherlands'
Johan Cruyff and Ronald Koeman, Denmark's Michael Laudrup,
England's Gary Lineker, Bulgaria's Hristo Stoitchkov,
Portugal's Luis Figo, and Brazil's three Rs -- Romario,
Rivaldo, and Ronaldo. ''We have a club that belongs to the
elite of the football world,'' says Laporta, who has
promised to put Barca back on top.

Which is why last season's fall from grace, during which the
club teetered on the verge of being relegated to the second
division for the first time, was so dispiriting. While
performing superbly in Champions League play, going
undefeated until Juventus knocked them out in the
quarterfinals, the Blaugrana suffered through a wretched
domestic campaign, sinking as low as 16th.

After Seville, which had managed only two away goals all
season, hammered Barcelona, 3-0, at its Nou Camp home, the
rest of the league got a taste for Catalan blood. ''They see
that it is possible to beat Barca,'' says Overmars. ''They
were putting pressure on us. Normally, it has been the other
way.''

The turning point came last winter amid a five-match winless
streak that provoked a fan revolt that got coach Louis van
Gaal fired and forced president Joan Gaspart to resign.
''For four years, our team won practically nothing,'' says
Laporta, a dashing and dynamic local attorney who promised
to shake things up when he took over last month. ''Change
really was necessary.''

Laporta and his new young board, who've been dubbed
Kennedyesque by local boosters, dumped replacement coach
Radomir Antic (who'd been given a contract extension by the
interim regime), hired Rijkaard, the former Dutch star who
still looks and thinks like a player, and went after English
pop deity David Beckham, the world's most visible player, as
Laporta had


 

offline nacmat on 2003-07-29 04:55 [#00797838]
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as Laporta had vowed he would.

Beckham opted for Real Madrid, but Barca had made a
statement: The club would be back in the chase for the
game's biggest names. ''We don't want to spend more money
than we can,'' says Laporta, who is facing an inherited
deficit that has been estimated at $115 million or more.
''But for some players, we will make an effort.''

The acquisition of Ronaldinho, who is expected to be in the
lineup today, was a clear sign to the Gent del Barca, the
loyal but restless supporters, that the club is on the rise.
''They love their club, they are proud of their club,'' says
Rijkaard. ''But because for the last four seasons Barca
doesn't win, the delusion is great and the expectations are
even higher because they want to win again, and I can
understand that.''

Catalunya's club FC Barcelona, which has more than 100,000
members, 1,500 fan clubs, and an estimated 5 million global
supporters, is more than a soccer team. It's the biggest
athletic club in the world, offering more than a dozen
sports, including basketball (the European champions),
American football (NFL Europe's Dragons), track and field,
baseball, rugby, team handball, volleyball, field hockey,
ice hockey, and figure skating.

Barca, says its motto, is ''more than a club.'' Though the
city has another top-division team in Espanyol, which plays
in the Olympic stadium atop Montjuic, Barca always has been
Catalunya's heart and soul -- creative, passionate, proud,
rebellious, irrepressible. ''When people think of Barca,
they think of something authentic,'' says Laporta.
''Something that has a strong history, that has quality.
People think about Barca as something special.''

In the dark years after the Civil War of the 1930s, when
Franco had his generalissimo's boot planted across
Catalunya's throat, there was always its soccer team. ''Our
language, our culture, our institutions were forbidden,''
Laporta says. The Blaugrana played on, as they always had,
even though Franco's thugs murd


 

offline nacmat on 2003-07-29 04:57 [#00797840]
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The Blaugrana played on, as they always had, even though
Franco's thugs murdered their president and forced the club
to change its name to Club de Futbol Barcelona to make it
more ''Spanish.''

Though Real Madrid took over as the country's and the
continent's dominant club during the late '50s, Barca became
the hot destination soon after restrictions on foreign
players were eased in the early '70s. Overmars, who won a
European championship with Ajax of Amsterdam, says he always
wanted to play for Barca.

So does Ronaldinho, who spurned Manchester United's bid
after his Brazilian predecessors told him Barcelona was the
place to be. ''I always dreamt of playing for Barca since I
was a kid,'' declared the former Paris-St. Germain winger,
who was greeted by 30,000 fans at his introduction after
signing a five-year deal.

His new home is an alluring Mediterranean city with an
easygoing, tolerant atmosphere, a distinguished soccer
heritage, and one of the world's most impressive stadiums in
the 115,000-seat Nou Camp, which was built in 1957. ''When
it's full,'' testifies Rijkaard, ''it is a magical
atmosphere.''

Though tickets are scarce -- more than 90 percent are
snapped up by club members -- empty seats have been on the
rise as Barca has slipped from first to second to fourth to
sixth over the last four years. ''Normally, you drink the
poison once and you rebuild,'' observes Overmars, who
arrived here from Arsenal three years ago figuring he'd win
a title. ''We keep drinking the poison.''

The Gent del Barca can't abide another toxic season around
Nou Camp. ''I don't think they have really a lot of
patience,'' Overmars says. ''We have to play direct for the
big prizes.''

The club began turning the corner at the end of last season,
winning its final four matches by an aggregate 10-3 and
qualifying for Europe, as Barca has every year since
competition began in 1955. ''That is the most important
thing,'' says forward Patrick Kluivert, who's agreed to stay
on


 

offline nacmat on 2003-07-29 04:58 [#00797841]
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''That is the most important thing,'' says forward Patrick
Kluivert, who's agreed to stay on after contract
renegotiations. ''I hope that was the lift up for this
season.''

Kluivert probably won't be giving his team a lift today. The
striker was not allowed through passport control at Logan
Airport Friday because of his involvement in a fatal car
accident eight years ago in Amsterdam, according to
published reports.

Costly turnover The club's officials, coaches, and players
acknowledge that the spring shakeup will continue. ''If you
have some players for three or four years and they don't
win, it's a bad sign,'' says Rijkaard. ''You have to
change.''

So the new faces have been arriving by the week -- besides
Ronaldinho, there's Turkish goalkeeper Rustu Recber, Mexican
defender Rafael Marquez, Portuguese midfielder Ricardo
Quaresma, and forward Luis Garcia, with more likely on the
way. When Barca began camp 10 days ago, Rijkaard had 33
players on his roster and little time to sort them out.
''It's not my favorite way of preparation,'' he says.

Normally, there would be a dozen days of double sessions, a
visit to the Netherlands or Sweden, and some undemanding
tuneups against lesser rivals. Instead, the Blaugrana get a
trans-Atlantic ticket, and the equivalent of a European
semifinal.

After today's not-so-friendly with Juventus, the storied
Turin club that lost the Champions League final to AC Milan
on a penalty shootout, there's a Wednesday match with Milan
in Washington, then a Sunday date with Man U in
Philadelphia. It's a tall order for a club in flux, but an
excellent way to make sure that Barca is at full throttle
when the domestic league begins at the end of next month.

So far, there's been little but optimism and approval of the
club's bold new approach from the Gent del Barca, who were
clamoring for radical changes. ''They believe in us and they
forgive us a lot of things,'' says Laporta. ''But we are in
a period when the ball is not yet rolling. In S


 

offline nacmat on 2003-07-29 04:58 [#00797842]
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''But we are in a period when the ball is not yet rolling.
In September, it will be different.''

Once the season begins, the expectations will be what they
always are -- that Barcelona will be knocking heads with
Real Madrid at the top of the ladder and that Luis Enrique
and his ''chicos'' will bring another European trophy back
to Nou Camp. Ever since Swiss businessman Hans Gamper
founded the soccer team in 1899, it has been more than a
club. It has been a style, a philosophy, a political and
cultural statement. ''Si ho sents, ho ets,'' the club urges
its fans in Catalan. ''Feel it, be it.''

The names and faces come and go, but the club and its blue
and claret jerseys are eternal. ''In the worst moments and
the best moments, it is Barca,'' says Laporta. ''Always
Barca.''



 

offline merg from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2003-07-29 06:05 [#00797919]
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Nah, just live here...for a couple more months anyway...


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2003-07-29 06:16 [#00797945]
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Today Italian newspapers reported:
Ronaldinho during an interview asked: "Who is that little
guy? He played like a phenomenon..."

Well, Ronaldhino was speaking about Fabrizio Miccoli...
believe me, he will be the new Juventus star soon.



 

offline nacmat on 2003-07-29 06:17 [#00797949]
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I will be watching him... (evil laugh)


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2003-07-30 06:59 [#00799819]
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yesterday, Inter-Stuttgart:2-0
A good start for Inter.

namcat: bad luck for Rustu :-/



 

offline merg from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2003-07-30 07:07 [#00799829]
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LFC have got a gem in Le Tallec...remember the name ;-)


 

offline nobsmuggler from silly mid-off on 2003-07-30 07:23 [#00799861]
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same with an AFC defender called 'Garry'
(last name) amazing player future england star


 

offline merg from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2003-07-30 07:32 [#00799885]
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Erm, and you don't even know his name?!? Yeah, he must be
good! LOL ;-)


 

offline nacmat on 2003-07-30 07:36 [#00799899]
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tonight milan - barça


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2003-07-30 09:01 [#00800132]
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it will be a great match!


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2003-07-31 02:09 [#00801701]
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Milan-Barça=0-2

unfortunately i didn't see the match, but this Barça seems
really strong, man!


 

offline nacmat on 2003-07-31 17:53 [#00802937]
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did you see the first goal?

and the saviola occassion?

and the pass quaresma did?


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2003-08-01 00:41 [#00803281]
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yeah, this barça convinced me.



 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2003-08-01 00:44 [#00803282]
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manchester utd. - juventus = 4 - 1

my goood...

these're last 3 results between manchester and juve.

champion's league

manchester utd.-juve=2-1
juve-manchester utd.=0-3
manchester utd.-juve=4-1
--------------------------------

total scores: manchester=9 goal
-----------------------juve=2 goal

it's official: juve, hasn't chance against the red devils.


 

offline nobsmuggler from silly mid-off on 2003-08-01 03:18 [#00803365]
Points: 6265 Status: Addict | Followup to merg: #00799885



ryan garry


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