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i kinda wanted to post to this since me and kcinsu have a history of vast hatred and i have nothing really to do right now. i also wanted to make sure my .nu account was still around. so here are a few points: 1. commenting logically and meaningfully (you know, criticism) on music does not require that you're a musician yourself. there's plenty of precedent, in academic or in "pop" circles, for good-ass critics who are JUST critics. TH's tracks surely don't light my ass on fire but i thought the general gist of his comments was right on. 2. it's up to every musician to decide for themself how much or how little they are going to care about what other people say about them. you KNOW that if you name a track "the era of the prophets, blah blah..." that some peeps are gonna be rubbed the wrong way, especially when it isn't immediately arrestingly awesome. not that it's a bad track, but it's gotta be hella good to "justify" that title, imo. otherwise it just comes off as wank. if you truly make up your mind that "i don't care what other people think," then fine, name it whatever the hell you want. but then you've got to really be prepared to NOT CARE when people who may or may not know their shit diss you on a stupid bbs. 3. kcinsu music isn't bad but i'm having trouble really getting into it. part of it is idm snobbery (some of the pad patches remind me of the 'synth' section on my sister's old korg electric piano thingy), and part of it is... i'm not sure that i can dig "ambient" music in that sense. it's not grounded enough for me. what i mean is, the "ambient" music that i like (music for airports, sawii, reich) is stuff that is repetitious, pulsating, and very centered like, thematically. i know that i could sit down at a keyboard and just record 4 or 5 tracks of me jamming in D minor on various pad patches and have something that sounded, to me, dangerously close to a kcinsu track. NOT that a kcinsu track is easy to make or shoddy, but... i dunno. try som |
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hey i got cut off! continued: "but... i dunno. try some chord changes, maybe? i get a feeling of "this melody could be anywhere in this track and still fit" when i hear a kcinsu track. 4. i don't think autechre comparisons make sense at all. again, it's that interlocking feeling i get. every bit in an ae track seems to be 'talking' to every other bit, and it's all so mysterious (draft7.30 is on right now). in 'red flower,' i can imagine myself tweaking the very same plugins to make some of those sounds. which is distracting, and just indicative of not really enough 'mysterious distance' from the dsp we are all familiar with (an integral component to enjoying ae, imo). -pete ascdi (yes i know my tracks are also kinda mediocre. see #1) " ps... about TH's comments being right in #1... i meant his original first post of criticism, not the rest of the degenerating wank ones. thanks peeps. |
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ahahahaha TH's tracks surely don't light my ass on fire but i thought... I love it.. but remember.. those are not original works of mine |
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I would like to thank you ascdi, for actually writting a respectful criticism. See theo? You can still write everything you want to say, and not be an asshole about it. Did you see any put downs etc there? No. Ascdi just earned alot of respect from me for that. |
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*I consider this thread dead now. Say whatever you want... not gonna respond anymore |
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liked your prophets track zeus site is cool too. |
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how vaginal of you now go and get your shinebox |
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would you consider this thread dead if my review was a rave? no.. you're like a child |
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*spams to increase post count in effort to appear cool. whoever said quanity over quality or was that the other way around? |
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Shut the fuck up.....you are the one who is acting like a child now! |
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push out the jive bring in the love |
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Now entering: Who gives a fuck land. |
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who are you to tell someone to shut the fuck up? YOU shut the fuck up! :P |
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NO YOU shut the fuck up!! :P Someone close this topic! |
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*shuts the fuck up himself anticipating witty retorts in his direction* |
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EVERYBODYSHUTTHEFUCKUPEXCEPTME |
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LOL!!! |
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:: bleeds from eye sockets, runs around bumping into walls and shrieking in panic :: |
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acts silly while thread is still open |
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The man in your avatar looks like he's up to no good. |
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pushes for 99 |
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He's working in customer service, answering queries about wholesale Black Meat. |
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gains 100 and becomes XLtronics official posting whore! By the way fleetmouse your avatar is awesome! |
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"Mickey, did you have a good view of the spaceshuttle from the moon? They wanted me to go on that shuttle, but I told them that I was in a crucial stage with my penguiins, and that I'd wait til the mission to mars---maybe I'll fly by and we can eat moonpie and drink sea of tranquility tea?" TEA AND MOONPIE BABY!!!!!! I WILL BE WAITING WITH DINO THE LAST DINOSAUR HERE FOR YA! Whats up with your penguins Marlowe?1! For fleetmouse: OING MOO QUACK OINK CLUCK CLUCK BAAAAAAAAA, HEEE HAAAAAAW! WOOZLE WOOOZIE WEEEEE! Dolleater: Dont leave ja, thats crazy talk Theo: At first you were stating your opinion and allthough it was brutally honest, it was your opinion. And from what we can judge from your music which is currently online, and to have you say this: "when I was getting started I used to sort of follow the formulae of certain producers and pastiches of certain tracks I admired.. from this , and once I got comfortable making tracks , my own touch on the music became more and more noticalbe", is completly hypocritcal to everything you just said about not putting Zeus down to build yourself up, and personally I think its silly (especially someone who is talking about origionality, and seems to just post remix's on his zebox site, marginal sounding at that). "Believe me my stuff dont have to be brilliant to outshine your bullshit.", "are you crying over there? believe me if it weren't so horribly pretentious I wouldn't attack it like this.. that was your first mistake" Now you are just nitpicking Zeus apart and being cruel, stop Dont let people get to you Zeus Jarworski, seems as of late, you have been using this place to put people down, cut it out, or maybe your ego is so fragile you need to feel big by acting tough on a message board, in which case that is very sad. Pretty easy to act tough hiding behind your computer huh? :P |
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that's an intresting username u have virginpusher |
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isnt it just mickey. you think slagging jarworski is gonna make it a whole lot better? |
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Oh WHAT a suprise, a telling off from Mickey. I only have a go at people who deserve it. And I'm not alone in bashing Zeus, check watmm or planet mu for more hilarity. I don't feel tough, I'm just pointing out the pricks... you can include yourself in that too sir. WOOZZLE WOOZZLE WANK |
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Well said... |
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HARK HE MAKETH THE OING Did you ever read Dysfunctional Family Circus, Mickey? Oing was one of the key phrases of that little cult. |
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Theo himself, just stop while you are ahead, everything your saying is hypocitical to what you have said before, and your starting to sound like a broken record. Grow up |
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YAY INFIGHTING! Let's all get surly drunk and type manly fightin words. I'll start: full nelson uppercut gun mukluk ostrich ukelele |
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thanks! I like yours because it reminds me of this one song by this one guy. |
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Dude, you need to get an avatar. Something that matches your name, heh heh heh |
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Hahahahahaaha |
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haha. Beer Bazooka Eggs |
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i think if i was drunk at this time i'd probably get banned |
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I probubly shouldnt have brought up Jarworski earthleakage, but now I am glad I did, because here is another fine example of his negative posting style Dysfunctional Family Circus? That sounds like an awesome read, Ill check it out fleetmouse |
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I can't make em. If anyone wants to donate drop me a line @ 1-800-xltronic thanks |
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even though your in london and i'm in Brewtown i still say we get drunk together and start a fight with clowns |
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i think zeus' original intention was to present his site, and not to argue with people and make bullshit comments about one another... i'd really like to see this topic going into a more "friendly" direction, if it'll remain the it is right now, I'll close it... |
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im not in london im in nottingham but the drunk part im interested in :) |
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Since this threads fate is to be closed down..... HOLY HELL!!!! FIGHTING CLOWNS YOU SAY!!!! THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GRAND OL TIME...!!! OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!!! AND TO GET IN A SURLY DRUNKEN FIGHT, ARRRGGGGHHH MATEY! I WANT TO TYPE TOUGH WORDS WITH LITTLE MEANING BEHIND THEM NOW TOO!!! UPPERCUT GET OVER HERE!!!!!!! DRAGON KICK!!!!!!!!!!!! SUB ZERO - FIGHT!!!!!!!!!! LETS ALL GO PLAY POGS NOW!! REMEMBER POGS! |
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I really don't see this "negative posting style" of Jarworski. I do however see you telling off an xltronic member AGAIN - which you have done so many times now and is also starting to sound like a stuck record. it always pisses me off when you do that, makes you look so arrogant. |
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The Angela Lansbury scissor kick. |
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i loved the OJ in jail Pog |
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UPPERCUT FOLLOWED BY A CHAIR TO YOUR BACK BITCH |
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OJ pog = :D I have told off three people before on xltronic which is not something I can say for either you qrter, or Jarworski for that matter, you guys seem to do it every other day, I dont think you can talk and tell me about telling people off, when I see you do it everyday. |
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so you're even counting who you've told off then? cau dy geg |
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those lightsaber avatars are funny. |
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Here's a little song i wrote, you might want to sing it note for note, don't worry, be happy in every life we have some trouble, when you worry you make it double don't worry, be happy dont worry be happy now dont worry be happy dont worry be happy dont worry be happy dont worry be happy aint got no place to lay your head, somebody came and took your bed, don't worry, be happy the landlord say your rent is late, he may have to litagate, dont worry (small laugh) be happy, look at me im happy, don't worry, be happy i give you my phone number, when your worried, call me, i make you happy don't worry, be happy aint got no cash, aint got no style, aint got no gal to make you smile but don't worry, be happy cos when you worry, your face will frown, and that will bring everybody down, so don't worry, be happy |
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